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About Source of Title - VIDEO CLIP - Robert Franco/OH
3/1/2005 6:28:56 PM (2346 views)
Re: About Source of Title - VIDEO CLIP - Mark Russomanno/NJ
3/1/2005 7:46:53 PM (3247 views)
Re: About Source of Title - VIDEO CLIP - David Bloys/TX
3/1/2005 9:17:31 PM (3202 views)
Re: About Source of Title - VIDEO CLIP - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
3/1/2005 9:32:40 PM (3221 views)
Re: About Source of Title - VIDEO CLIP - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/2/2005 11:30:27 AM (3096 views)
Re: About Source of Title - VIDEO CLIP - Robert Franco/OH
3/2/2005 3:11:47 PM (3307 views)
Re: About Source of Title - VIDEO CLIP - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/2/2005 5:01:38 PM (3205 views)

fax to email software - Regina Engebritson Engebritson
3/1/2005 1:05:18 PM (2358 views)
Re: fax to email software - David Bloys/TX
3/1/2005 1:44:45 PM (3314 views)
Re: fax to email software - Ted Lannon/MA
3/3/2005 8:57:33 PM (3505 views)
Re: fax to email software - Doug Hollowell/TX
3/4/2005 8:12:43 PM (5424 views)

title search in CA``` - Chet Mazur/CA
3/1/2005 8:44:34 AM (2311 views)
Re: title search in CA``` - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:17:09 PM (3328 views)

Who is Absolute Property? - Barbara Bennett/IN
3/1/2005 8:08:44 AM (2534 views)
Re: Who is Absolute Property? - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/1/2005 8:22:21 AM (3531 views)
Re: Who is Absolute Property? - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/1/2005 10:36:47 AM (3592 views)
Re: Who is Absolute Property? - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:20:02 PM (3601 views)
Re: Who is Absolute Property? - ARTHUR LIPPMAN/MA
3/4/2005 9:08:24 PM (3343 views)

With all of these scams and other things going on... - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 4:40:05 PM (2329 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 5:01:13 PM (3596 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 5:06:08 PM (3541 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Robert Breakell/CT
2/28/2005 7:30:32 PM (3399 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/1/2005 3:34:27 AM (3488 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Susie/OH
2/28/2005 10:29:21 PM (3454 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 10:33:35 AM (3430 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/5/2005 11:18:01 PM (3455 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Jay Duncan/MO
3/5/2005 11:39:30 PM (3389 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/6/2005 11:08:49 PM (3371 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Douglas Gallant/OH
3/7/2005 8:29:06 PM (3303 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Donna Grady/NC
3/2/2005 8:12:50 AM (3568 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Robert Franco/OH
3/2/2005 9:58:34 AM (3294 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/2/2005 10:46:58 AM (3446 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/2/2005 11:17:02 AM (3478 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Barbara Bennett/IN
3/2/2005 5:43:32 PM (3491 views)




All in the name of growth! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 10:29:26 AM (2379 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Amy Holder/NJ
2/28/2005 10:38:28 AM (3433 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 10:52:20 AM (3497 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/28/2005 1:49:40 PM (3484 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 4:49:40 PM (3285 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 7:24:11 PM (3379 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 9:17:12 PM (3391 views)

Thanks for everyone's help with my question about Abstracting Software. - KIM HAASE/MT
2/27/2005 11:48:40 PM (1754 views)

Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 2:36:11 PM (2345 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 2:50:51 PM (3528 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 7:23:33 PM (3538 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 7:25:37 PM (5717 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:20:00 PM (3462 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 3:07:54 PM (4508 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 3:21:23 PM (3575 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - David Bloys/TX
2/27/2005 6:48:41 PM (3594 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 7:35:27 PM (3425 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 9:15:25 PM (3477 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 9:00:44 AM (3563 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 9:17:00 AM (4509 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 2:31:42 PM (3518 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 6:54:04 PM (3468 views)

I was thinking...this may be cool - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:42:05 AM (2414 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 10:38:29 AM (3496 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 3:09:57 PM (4442 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 3:17:50 PM (3353 views)

Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 1:50:10 PM (2353 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:27:44 PM (3571 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 5:08:17 PM (3520 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 5:11:24 PM (3496 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 5:35:28 PM (3466 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 5:38:56 PM (3418 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:12:22 PM (3521 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:16:30 PM (3545 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 7:25:05 PM (3461 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/27/2005 10:33:25 PM (3557 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Cathy Iffergan/TX
2/28/2005 12:46:48 PM (3487 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Michelle Elko/TX
10/28/2009 12:43:01 AM (3207 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Doug Hollowell/TX
3/4/2005 8:24:07 PM (3466 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/5/2005 12:38:21 AM (3383 views)

Bank of America....Shame on you - Loretta Reed/MD
2/26/2005 10:22:34 AM (2454 views)
Re: Bank of America....Shame on you - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 10:24:37 AM (3462 views)
Re: Bank of America....Shame on you - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 5:01:18 PM (3372 views)

More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/26/2005 8:37:47 AM (2733 views)
Re: More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 1:00:44 PM (3535 views)
Re: More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/26/2005 1:48:52 PM (3543 views)
Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/26/2005 9:17:22 PM (3347 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Amy Holder/NJ
2/27/2005 12:12:49 AM (3339 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 10:04:57 AM (3386 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Donna Grady/NC
2/27/2005 1:30:34 PM (3565 views)
MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 2:37:30 PM (3433 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 5:20:58 PM (3416 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 6:20:00 PM (3341 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Donna Grady/NC
2/27/2005 7:58:51 PM (3530 views)

Again, I have to agree with Mark.  Each state IS different. The abstractor in NC has one hand tied behind it's back trying to balance working for the MAN/ATTORNEY  or working for the title companies which is discouraged by the NC State Bar.  In the late 90's the NC State Bar made it their business to disbar attorneys that used independent title abstractors who had employees.  They were also investigating independents that worked for title companies.

To date the NC State Bar has made another proposal to make it unethical for attorneys to use independent abstractors that employ abstractors, JUST at the time that I was planning to expand and hire abstractors.  As a one person business, I can not compete for $45.00 a search unless I expand to several counties which I can not do alone.  The proposal also goes as far as telling the attorneys that they can not be connected to title vendor companies which is the way title vendors in NC have to operate because title searches have to be "rubber stamped" by an attorney or else it can be constituted as unauthorized practice of law.  There are three law firms that I know of that vendor companies send their NC & SC title searches to for review.  I applaud this set up because I have seen first hand how well it works.  To be honest, as an abstractor, I like to know that there is someone who legally understands any question that I have on a search that I can go to for an answer.  There are some issues in the field that I can decide based on my own experience and expertise but not every search is alike.  All of that is slipping away by title work being ordered by who knows who or where.  There are some people that I talk to when I return a search that do not have a clue how involved the search was as to why it took me so long to return the product.  When I ask them a question I get the same answer, Just make a note of it on your report sheet.  Some days it does not pay to be the only title searcher for my company.  If a search looks like it will take longer than two hours to complete I have to table it and move on so that I can make a profit that day.  Then I run the risk of not returning the search on time and never getting a search from that title company again.  But then if I spend too much time on one search then I can't get to some other title company's search that day and run the risk of never getting a search from them.  There is just so much that one person can do in one day.

So I agree with Mark that some of us do not have it as well as others because of the change in the title industry.  One big change being 24 hour turnaround.  My answer was to increase my personnel to increase my business until the NC State Bar's proposal popped up.  By the way, as always with the NC State Bar, they are dragging this out.  It was supposed to voted on in January.  Still no word on what was decided.  So we are in limbo. 

I wish I was not the only NC abstractor that keeps talking about this on this message board but some of the NC abstractors do not have a clue about this.  Most NC independents work for attorneys and do not carry E & O insurance because of the "old 1990's way of doing business". 

An attorney that I contract with also contracts with other independents who do not carry E & O insurance.  He just had a claim from one of those other independents so his
E & O will pay it out.  Problem is:  He pays that independent the same amount of money he pays me for a search.  And he told me that he wish it had been me cause then he would have been "off the hook".  It's NOT fair to me to have the overhead and not be paid more.  But if I want his business which substains me totally, then I just have to suck it up. 

So now you see why I feel like I am being jerked around and toyed with.  Realtors seem to be the best field in this title industry.  They make 3 to 6 % commission on the sale price, they don't have to be insured against mistakes, they have the luxury cars to drive their clients around in, and they don't have a clue about how to fill out a deceit sales contract to help the abstractor determine which property to search. 

So how many of you on this message board who are a ONE person abstracting company are really satisfied and able to make a better living at this than you did four years ago?  It seems that four years ago was when title searches had to be done in 24 or less hours.
  I would love to see you comment on this thread.

Folks, abstracting is a dying art.  Those of us who have been searching over 15 years have seen the changes and do not like what we see.  My paralegal friend was talking to her financial advisor who told her that her profession, title searcher, was becoming obsolete.  A local attorney here retired early because he was being called upon to fix the messes that the title companies have made in this area.  There is something wrong that needs to be fixed.  How do you fix it? and Who fixes it?

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Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 8:04:02 PM (3311 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/27/2005 8:14:53 PM (3255 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:15:56 PM (3313 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Amy Holder/NJ
2/27/2005 10:46:56 PM (3409 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 10:10:27 AM (3404 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Amy Holder/NJ
2/28/2005 10:36:23 AM (3413 views)

We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 9:26:15 PM (2356 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:25:02 PM (3484 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:35:42 PM (3394 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 1:08:49 PM (3362 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - PatriciaPalmer/PA
2/26/2005 2:55:48 PM (3374 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 6:05:50 PM (3352 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:31:53 PM (3473 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 6:04:32 PM (3322 views)

need some opinions... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/25/2005 11:37:47 AM (2472 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 11:52:31 AM (3454 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jay Duncan/MO
2/25/2005 11:55:50 AM (3385 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/26/2005 11:28:44 PM (3324 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 10:44:04 AM (3242 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/25/2005 4:50:12 PM (3402 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/25/2005 5:18:03 PM (3314 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:39:40 PM (3326 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/28/2005 4:56:29 PM (3349 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 10:28:14 AM (3291 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:33:37 PM (3402 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
3/1/2005 3:13:09 PM (3229 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 5:38:43 PM (3230 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:54:09 PM (3286 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 11:24:54 AM (3153 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Ms. A/MO
3/1/2005 12:15:16 PM (3204 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:36:34 PM (3241 views)

ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 5:22:20 AM (3162 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Robert Breakell/CT
2/25/2005 7:57:34 AM (3188 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 9:14:58 AM (3145 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 8:26:05 AM (3163 views)


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