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Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 1:50:10 PM (2329 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:27:44 PM (3478 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 5:08:17 PM (3405 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 5:11:24 PM (3377 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 5:35:28 PM (3365 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 5:38:56 PM (3300 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:12:22 PM (3417 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:16:30 PM (3433 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 7:25:05 PM (3359 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/27/2005 10:33:25 PM (3424 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Cathy Iffergan/TX
2/28/2005 12:46:48 PM (3366 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Michelle Elko/TX
10/28/2009 12:43:01 AM (3092 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Doug Hollowell/TX
3/4/2005 8:24:07 PM (3354 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/5/2005 12:38:21 AM (3275 views)

Bank of America....Shame on you - Loretta Reed/MD
2/26/2005 10:22:34 AM (2430 views)
Re: Bank of America....Shame on you - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 10:24:37 AM (3319 views)
Re: Bank of America....Shame on you - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 5:01:18 PM (3254 views)

More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/26/2005 8:37:47 AM (2704 views)
Re: More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 1:00:44 PM (3432 views)
Re: More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/26/2005 1:48:52 PM (3429 views)
Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/26/2005 9:17:22 PM (3235 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Amy Holder/NJ
2/27/2005 12:12:49 AM (3239 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 10:04:57 AM (3280 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Donna Grady/NC
2/27/2005 1:30:34 PM (3439 views)
MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 2:37:30 PM (3299 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 5:20:58 PM (3307 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 6:20:00 PM (3229 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Donna Grady/NC
2/27/2005 7:58:51 PM (3419 views)

Again, I have to agree with Mark.  Each state IS different. The abstractor in NC has one hand tied behind it's back trying to balance working for the MAN/ATTORNEY  or working for the title companies which is discouraged by the NC State Bar.  In the late 90's the NC State Bar made it their business to disbar attorneys that used independent title abstractors who had employees.  They were also investigating independents that worked for title companies.

To date the NC State Bar has made another proposal to make it unethical for attorneys to use independent abstractors that employ abstractors, JUST at the time that I was planning to expand and hire abstractors.  As a one person business, I can not compete for $45.00 a search unless I expand to several counties which I can not do alone.  The proposal also goes as far as telling the attorneys that they can not be connected to title vendor companies which is the way title vendors in NC have to operate because title searches have to be "rubber stamped" by an attorney or else it can be constituted as unauthorized practice of law.  There are three law firms that I know of that vendor companies send their NC & SC title searches to for review.  I applaud this set up because I have seen first hand how well it works.  To be honest, as an abstractor, I like to know that there is someone who legally understands any question that I have on a search that I can go to for an answer.  There are some issues in the field that I can decide based on my own experience and expertise but not every search is alike.  All of that is slipping away by title work being ordered by who knows who or where.  There are some people that I talk to when I return a search that do not have a clue how involved the search was as to why it took me so long to return the product.  When I ask them a question I get the same answer, Just make a note of it on your report sheet.  Some days it does not pay to be the only title searcher for my company.  If a search looks like it will take longer than two hours to complete I have to table it and move on so that I can make a profit that day.  Then I run the risk of not returning the search on time and never getting a search from that title company again.  But then if I spend too much time on one search then I can't get to some other title company's search that day and run the risk of never getting a search from them.  There is just so much that one person can do in one day.

So I agree with Mark that some of us do not have it as well as others because of the change in the title industry.  One big change being 24 hour turnaround.  My answer was to increase my personnel to increase my business until the NC State Bar's proposal popped up.  By the way, as always with the NC State Bar, they are dragging this out.  It was supposed to voted on in January.  Still no word on what was decided.  So we are in limbo. 

I wish I was not the only NC abstractor that keeps talking about this on this message board but some of the NC abstractors do not have a clue about this.  Most NC independents work for attorneys and do not carry E & O insurance because of the "old 1990's way of doing business". 

An attorney that I contract with also contracts with other independents who do not carry E & O insurance.  He just had a claim from one of those other independents so his
E & O will pay it out.  Problem is:  He pays that independent the same amount of money he pays me for a search.  And he told me that he wish it had been me cause then he would have been "off the hook".  It's NOT fair to me to have the overhead and not be paid more.  But if I want his business which substains me totally, then I just have to suck it up. 

So now you see why I feel like I am being jerked around and toyed with.  Realtors seem to be the best field in this title industry.  They make 3 to 6 % commission on the sale price, they don't have to be insured against mistakes, they have the luxury cars to drive their clients around in, and they don't have a clue about how to fill out a deceit sales contract to help the abstractor determine which property to search. 

So how many of you on this message board who are a ONE person abstracting company are really satisfied and able to make a better living at this than you did four years ago?  It seems that four years ago was when title searches had to be done in 24 or less hours.
  I would love to see you comment on this thread.

Folks, abstracting is a dying art.  Those of us who have been searching over 15 years have seen the changes and do not like what we see.  My paralegal friend was talking to her financial advisor who told her that her profession, title searcher, was becoming obsolete.  A local attorney here retired early because he was being called upon to fix the messes that the title companies have made in this area.  There is something wrong that needs to be fixed.  How do you fix it? and Who fixes it?

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Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 8:04:02 PM (3208 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/27/2005 8:14:53 PM (3144 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:15:56 PM (3191 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Amy Holder/NJ
2/27/2005 10:46:56 PM (3290 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 10:10:27 AM (3294 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Amy Holder/NJ
2/28/2005 10:36:23 AM (3310 views)

We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 9:26:15 PM (2330 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:25:02 PM (3311 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:35:42 PM (3283 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 1:08:49 PM (3240 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - PatriciaPalmer/PA
2/26/2005 2:55:48 PM (3246 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 6:05:50 PM (3242 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:31:53 PM (3282 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 6:04:32 PM (3216 views)

need some opinions... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/25/2005 11:37:47 AM (2450 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 11:52:31 AM (3346 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jay Duncan/MO
2/25/2005 11:55:50 AM (3259 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/26/2005 11:28:44 PM (3210 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 10:44:04 AM (3137 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/25/2005 4:50:12 PM (3277 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/25/2005 5:18:03 PM (3204 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:39:40 PM (3212 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/28/2005 4:56:29 PM (3218 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 10:28:14 AM (3180 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:33:37 PM (3261 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
3/1/2005 3:13:09 PM (3137 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 5:38:43 PM (3112 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:54:09 PM (3178 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 11:24:54 AM (3032 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Ms. A/MO
3/1/2005 12:15:16 PM (3099 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:36:34 PM (3124 views)




ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 5:22:20 AM (3128 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Robert Breakell/CT
2/25/2005 7:57:34 AM (3078 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 9:14:58 AM (3031 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 8:26:05 AM (3060 views)

Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Susie/OH
2/24/2005 7:14:12 PM (2296 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 10:32:17 AM (3185 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:15:06 PM (3094 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Samson Ugorji/MD
2/28/2005 11:53:36 PM (3082 views)

How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/24/2005 1:16:03 PM (2443 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 1:33:15 PM (3208 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Jay Duncan
2/24/2005 6:25:42 PM (3282 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Robert Breakell/CT
2/24/2005 7:40:56 PM (3160 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 6:20:10 AM (3165 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/24/2005 10:01:52 PM (3059 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/24/2005 10:57:34 PM (3143 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/25/2005 3:42:47 PM (3047 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/25/2005 8:09:54 PM (3121 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 6:03:13 PM (3115 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 7:23:47 PM (3040 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 8:35:47 PM (3035 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 9:11:44 PM (3103 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 9:22:34 PM (3037 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 9:12:57 PM (3020 views)

I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:26:53 AM (2352 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 8:33:25 PM (3156 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 10:30:50 PM (3109 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:53:23 PM (2953 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/25/2005 12:19:59 AM (3032 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 6:12:14 AM (3026 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 7:55:35 AM (3074 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 8:03:23 AM (2917 views)

My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/23/2005 10:40:59 PM (2448 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/23/2005 11:24:37 PM (3098 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/24/2005 12:12:22 AM (3142 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/24/2005 7:51:43 AM (3245 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 9:46:59 AM (3172 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/24/2005 9:56:34 AM (3156 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 1:20:14 PM (3084 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jay Duncan
2/25/2005 1:23:59 PM (3163 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 4:01:55 PM (3187 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:15:07 PM (3163 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:24:49 PM (3010 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/25/2005 6:02:40 PM (3209 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Helene/GA
2/26/2005 12:10:59 AM (3163 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/25/2005 6:20:41 PM (3119 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/25/2005 6:52:40 PM (3064 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 9:44:56 PM (3115 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/26/2005 8:57:45 AM (3364 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 10:21:54 AM (3115 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 11:59:39 AM (3272 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:10:31 PM (3092 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:19:42 PM (3032 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 5:58:14 PM (2984 views)

Arkansas Abstractors - Marty Munson/MI
2/23/2005 9:59:55 PM (2383 views)
Re: Arkansas Abstractors - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/24/2005 8:59:28 PM (2921 views)

Out of pocket and need some help... - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/23/2005 11:52:06 AM (2243 views)
Nevermind!! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/23/2005 12:05:00 PM (3022 views)

Ohio County Addresses Bulk Release of Public Records - Robert Franco/OH
2/23/2005 10:42:08 AM (2357 views)
Re: Ohio County Addresses Bulk Release of Public Records - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/23/2005 7:07:26 PM (3139 views)

Radio Coverage of online "public" records - David Bloys/TX
2/22/2005 7:42:24 PM (2997 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/22/2005 9:39:56 PM (3322 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - David Bloys/TX
2/23/2005 12:12:46 AM (3337 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 5:57:07 AM (3137 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 6:04:30 AM (3183 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 6:11:17 AM (3078 views)

SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - ROY PISTEY/PA
2/22/2005 4:14:19 PM (2282 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 4:24:52 PM (3119 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/22/2005 6:19:50 PM (3289 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/22/2005 6:56:34 PM (3253 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 7:03:49 PM (3257 views)


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