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About Source of Title - VIDEO CLIP - Robert Franco/OH
3/1/2005 6:28:56 PM (2346 views)
Re: About Source of Title - VIDEO CLIP - Mark Russomanno/NJ
3/1/2005 7:46:53 PM (3249 views)
Re: About Source of Title - VIDEO CLIP - David Bloys/TX
3/1/2005 9:17:31 PM (3204 views)
Re: About Source of Title - VIDEO CLIP - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
3/1/2005 9:32:40 PM (3223 views)
Re: About Source of Title - VIDEO CLIP - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/2/2005 11:30:27 AM (3099 views)
Re: About Source of Title - VIDEO CLIP - Robert Franco/OH
3/2/2005 3:11:47 PM (3313 views)
Re: About Source of Title - VIDEO CLIP - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/2/2005 5:01:38 PM (3210 views)

fax to email software - Regina Engebritson Engebritson
3/1/2005 1:05:18 PM (2359 views)
Re: fax to email software - David Bloys/TX
3/1/2005 1:44:45 PM (3317 views)
Re: fax to email software - Ted Lannon/MA
3/3/2005 8:57:33 PM (3509 views)
Re: fax to email software - Doug Hollowell/TX
3/4/2005 8:12:43 PM (5426 views)

title search in CA``` - Chet Mazur/CA
3/1/2005 8:44:34 AM (2312 views)
Re: title search in CA``` - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:17:09 PM (3329 views)

Who is Absolute Property? - Barbara Bennett/IN
3/1/2005 8:08:44 AM (2535 views)
Re: Who is Absolute Property? - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/1/2005 8:22:21 AM (3532 views)
Re: Who is Absolute Property? - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/1/2005 10:36:47 AM (3593 views)
Re: Who is Absolute Property? - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:20:02 PM (3601 views)
Re: Who is Absolute Property? - ARTHUR LIPPMAN/MA
3/4/2005 9:08:24 PM (3343 views)

With all of these scams and other things going on... - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 4:40:05 PM (2329 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 5:01:13 PM (3597 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 5:06:08 PM (3541 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Robert Breakell/CT
2/28/2005 7:30:32 PM (3399 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/1/2005 3:34:27 AM (3488 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Susie/OH
2/28/2005 10:29:21 PM (3454 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 10:33:35 AM (3430 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/5/2005 11:18:01 PM (3455 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Jay Duncan/MO
3/5/2005 11:39:30 PM (3391 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/6/2005 11:08:49 PM (3371 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Douglas Gallant/OH
3/7/2005 8:29:06 PM (3303 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Donna Grady/NC
3/2/2005 8:12:50 AM (3568 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Robert Franco/OH
3/2/2005 9:58:34 AM (3294 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/2/2005 10:46:58 AM (3447 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/2/2005 11:17:02 AM (3478 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Barbara Bennett/IN
3/2/2005 5:43:32 PM (3491 views)




All in the name of growth! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 10:29:26 AM (2379 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Amy Holder/NJ
2/28/2005 10:38:28 AM (3433 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 10:52:20 AM (3497 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/28/2005 1:49:40 PM (3484 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 4:49:40 PM (3285 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 7:24:11 PM (3379 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 9:17:12 PM (3391 views)

Thanks for everyone's help with my question about Abstracting Software. - KIM HAASE/MT
2/27/2005 11:48:40 PM (1754 views)

Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 2:36:11 PM (2345 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 2:50:51 PM (3529 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 7:23:33 PM (3539 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 7:25:37 PM (5717 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:20:00 PM (3463 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 3:07:54 PM (4509 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 3:21:23 PM (3576 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - David Bloys/TX
2/27/2005 6:48:41 PM (3597 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 7:35:27 PM (3426 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 9:15:25 PM (3479 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 9:00:44 AM (3564 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 9:17:00 AM (4511 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 2:31:42 PM (3520 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 6:54:04 PM (3468 views)

I was thinking...this may be cool - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:42:05 AM (2414 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 10:38:29 AM (3499 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 3:09:57 PM (4443 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 3:17:50 PM (3354 views)

Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 1:50:10 PM (2353 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:27:44 PM (3573 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 5:08:17 PM (3521 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 5:11:24 PM (3497 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 5:35:28 PM (3467 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 5:38:56 PM (3420 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:12:22 PM (3522 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:16:30 PM (3546 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 7:25:05 PM (3462 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/27/2005 10:33:25 PM (3558 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Cathy Iffergan/TX
2/28/2005 12:46:48 PM (3488 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Michelle Elko/TX
10/28/2009 12:43:01 AM (3208 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Doug Hollowell/TX
3/4/2005 8:24:07 PM (3467 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/5/2005 12:38:21 AM (3384 views)

Bank of America....Shame on you - Loretta Reed/MD
2/26/2005 10:22:34 AM (2454 views)
Re: Bank of America....Shame on you - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 10:24:37 AM (3463 views)
Re: Bank of America....Shame on you - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 5:01:18 PM (3373 views)

More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/26/2005 8:37:47 AM (2733 views)
Re: More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 1:00:44 PM (3536 views)
Re: More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/26/2005 1:48:52 PM (3545 views)
Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/26/2005 9:17:22 PM (3347 views)

Thanks for your response and words of encouragement..

I want to be clear though…..I’m not basing my decision to leave the business based on the results of my mailings.

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Next series of mailings is going to be the opposite offer.That means that the ones that got the low ball offer will now get the other offer and vice versa.

  

This decision has been evolving over the past year.

 

Let me tell the story as briefly as I can because I want to be clear on how & why I came to this decision. Who knows?...Maybe someone will see something I don’t and give an objective viewpoint…

 

I’ve been in the biz for 18 years now, 14 of those as an independent.

 

I started out with one client…my previous employer

5 years later I had something like 17 clients…..all local title companies.

 

I built up my customer base SOLELY on referrals and I had a very nice deal going.

 

Over the years, through mergers, going out of business, and me giving up a few smaller accounts, my client base has gone down to 7 clients.

 

I ‘v raised my prices every few years, so the price increases offset the attrition…..fine by me. It’s the way I wanted to structure my business..a “lifestyle “choice if you will.

 

Sounds pretty damn good……..

 

Until last year….

 

4 of my 7 accounts have informed me that once this company  DataTrace gets their plant up & running, I’m history…done…needed no more.

 

DataTrace is not marketing on price..they charge very well.

They are getting a huge share because of the technology they are bringing to the business HERE IN NJ.

 

They have already put a real hurtin on a lot of searchers

Me included……….they’ve taken 3 survey clients and 1 title client……to the tune of about 12-15 thousand a year in lost business to me.

 

Once my other accounts switch………..I’m done because they are my biggest clients..

 

The other threat, or maybe I should say hindrance ARE OTHER ABSTRACTORS…..maybe not in your area…..but it is VERY REAL here.

 

SO I found myself between this MegaConglomerate who are driving me out with technology, and these abstractors who are charging such low fees that it basically has reduced the searcher to a low wage  “commoditized” service.

 

I did my mailing as test to see if I would even want to stay and compete.

 

So the way I see it is….if I want to stay in business, I have to lower my fees, expand the coverage area, spread myself thin and burn myself out….not gonna do it.

 

I really do not see a future that is fulfilling here any longer. I like the work, but not the conditions under which I will have to perform the work

 

 

David, getting back to the mailing, I went after title companies first because that ‘s where the money is , out here at least.

 

The financial instituitions utilize the services of what we call “credit checkers” and they do these record owners for anywhere between $8 -$15 each. (they still hand abstract these things)

 

I’m exploring another angle to market my knowledge as an abstractor, but not in an abstractors role.(can’t divulge yet).

But it does have to do with the real estate investor community.

 

Once I test it and feel it’s a viable income source…I will let all of you know so that you may incorporate it into your business.

 

I am more than willing to answer any marketing questions that anyone may have.

 

BUT..I want to be clear to everyone….I will eventually be running an advertising/promotional consulting business , so I will eventually be charging for “stuff”……BUT…in the meantime I am at all of your service.

 

 

Thanks for staying with me here

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Amy Holder/NJ
2/27/2005 12:12:49 AM (3340 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 10:04:57 AM (3387 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Donna Grady/NC
2/27/2005 1:30:34 PM (3566 views)
MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 2:37:30 PM (3434 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 5:20:58 PM (3417 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 6:20:00 PM (3343 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Donna Grady/NC
2/27/2005 7:58:51 PM (3531 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 8:04:02 PM (3312 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/27/2005 8:14:53 PM (3256 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:15:56 PM (3314 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Amy Holder/NJ
2/27/2005 10:46:56 PM (3411 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 10:10:27 AM (3405 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Amy Holder/NJ
2/28/2005 10:36:23 AM (3414 views)

We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 9:26:15 PM (2357 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:25:02 PM (3486 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:35:42 PM (3395 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 1:08:49 PM (3363 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - PatriciaPalmer/PA
2/26/2005 2:55:48 PM (3375 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 6:05:50 PM (3353 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:31:53 PM (3474 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 6:04:32 PM (3324 views)

need some opinions... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/25/2005 11:37:47 AM (2472 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 11:52:31 AM (3455 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jay Duncan/MO
2/25/2005 11:55:50 AM (3386 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/26/2005 11:28:44 PM (3325 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 10:44:04 AM (3243 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/25/2005 4:50:12 PM (3404 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/25/2005 5:18:03 PM (3315 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:39:40 PM (3327 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/28/2005 4:56:29 PM (3350 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 10:28:14 AM (3293 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:33:37 PM (3402 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
3/1/2005 3:13:09 PM (3230 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 5:38:43 PM (3232 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:54:09 PM (3287 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 11:24:54 AM (3154 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Ms. A/MO
3/1/2005 12:15:16 PM (3205 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:36:34 PM (3241 views)

ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 5:22:20 AM (3164 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Robert Breakell/CT
2/25/2005 7:57:34 AM (3189 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 9:14:58 AM (3146 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 8:26:05 AM (3164 views)


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