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Copy Fees - Kim Cowles/WI
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Re: Copy Fees - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Copy Fees - Kim Cowles/WI
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Re: Copy Fees - Kurt deVries/FL
9/22/2006 11:50:06 AM (3130 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Wendi See/SC
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Re: Copy Fees - Rachel Malone/PA
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Re: Copy Fees - Tammy Knight/MO
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Re: Copy Fees - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Copy Fees - Dee/PA
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Re: Copy Fees - Rachel Malone/PA
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Re: Copy Fees - Ben Kohnen/WI
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Re: Copy Fees - Vikki Moffitt/GA
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Re: Copy Fees - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Copy Fees - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Copy Fees - Michaela Urban/OH
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Re: Copy Fees - Saundra  Scott/MD
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Meddler - Tammy Knight/MO
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Re: Meddler - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Meddler - Vikki Moffitt/GA
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Re: Meddler - Wanda Steudel/OH
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Re: Meddler - Tammy Knight/MO
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Re: Meddler - Wanda Steudel/OH
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Re: Meddler - Tammy Knight/MO
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Re: Meddler - Sandra Morton/KS
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Re: Meddler - Sandra Morton/KS
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Re: Meddler - David Keeling/TX
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What about.... - mason haas/NY
9/19/2006 7:27:30 PM (2678 views)
Re: What about.... - Robert Franco/OH
9/19/2006 8:11:04 PM (3226 views)
Re: What about.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: What about.... - Ricky Farrow/FL
9/21/2006 8:42:46 PM (3104 views)
Re: What about.... - John Povejsil/MN
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Re: What about.... - Ricky Farrow/FL
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Re: What about.... - mason haas/NY
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Re: What about.... - Ricky Farrow/FL
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Re: What about.... - mason haas/NY
9/28/2006 8:01:20 AM (3026 views)
Re: What about.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/28/2006 10:14:20 AM (2972 views)

The Bertrum Group - Annette Dorty/PA
9/19/2006 6:46:56 PM (2006 views)

Land Title U.S.A Agency, Inc. - Annette Dorty/PA
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The Real Threat to Title Examiners - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
9/19/2006 3:41:17 PM (2710 views)
Re: The Real Threat to Title Examiners - David Jenkins/PA
9/19/2006 4:08:22 PM (3443 views)
Re: The Real Threat to Title Examiners - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2006 4:59:07 PM (3275 views)
Re: The Real Threat to Title Examiners - David Jenkins/PA
9/19/2006 5:14:45 PM (3273 views)
Re: The Real Threat to Title Examiners - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2006 7:19:17 PM (3339 views)
Re: The Real Threat to Title Examiners - Heather Arndt/MN
9/21/2006 3:41:59 PM (3239 views)
Re: The Real Threat to Title Examiners - Ricky Farrow/FL
9/21/2006 8:45:24 PM (3182 views)
Re: The Real Threat to Title Examiners - Saundra  Scott/MD
9/26/2006 1:10:49 PM (3384 views)

TRANSUNION - Paul Hughes/RI
9/19/2006 3:07:40 PM (2688 views)
Re: TRANSUNION - Robert Franco/OH
9/19/2006 3:28:50 PM (3310 views)
Re: TRANSUNION - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2006 7:08:59 AM (3327 views)
Re: TRANSUNION - Robert Franco/OH
9/20/2006 12:28:07 PM (3226 views)
Re: TRANSUNION - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2006 3:01:05 PM (3241 views)
Re: TRANSUNION - Robert Franco/OH
9/20/2006 3:34:19 PM (3183 views)
Re: TRANSUNION - Norean /GA
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Re: TRANSUNION - Julie Jasiunas/WI
9/19/2006 6:47:21 PM (3242 views)
Re: TRANSUNION - Florida Flame/FL
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Re: TRANSUNION - Ricky Farrow/FL
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Clear Title - Another non payer!! - Kurt deVries/FL
9/19/2006 2:32:57 PM (2697 views)
Re: Clear Title - Another non payer!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2006 7:03:50 AM (3280 views)
Re: Clear Title - Another non payer!! - Kurt deVries/FL
9/20/2006 11:37:11 AM (3167 views)
Re: Clear Title - Another non payer!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2006 11:44:19 AM (3183 views)
Re: Clear Title - Another non payer!! - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Clear Title - Another non payer!! - Scott Perry/PA
9/20/2006 2:38:12 PM (3142 views)
Re: Clear Title - Another non payer!! - Sandra Morton/KS
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Re: Clear Title - Another non payer!! - Heather Arndt/MN
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Contract Question - L ROLAND/CA
9/15/2006 4:10:26 PM (2589 views)
Re: Contract Question - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Contract Question - George Booth/TX
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Re: Contract Question - L ROLAND/CA
9/18/2006 11:51:20 AM (3286 views)

American Security Title? - Kurt deVries/FL
9/15/2006 11:34:08 AM (2588 views)
Re: American Security Title? - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
9/15/2006 2:24:22 PM (3275 views)
Re: American Security Title? - Jay Duncan/MO
9/15/2006 2:33:46 PM (3152 views)

TIme for a chuckle - an uninformed client? - Robb Grandon/OH
9/15/2006 9:56:31 AM (2736 views)
Re: TIme for a chuckle - an uninformed client? - Jay Duncan/MO
9/15/2006 10:45:06 AM (3492 views)
Re: TIme for a chuckle - an uninformed client? - George Booth/TX
9/15/2006 10:52:27 AM (3429 views)
Re: TIme for a chuckle - an uninformed client? - Angelica Schneider/IN
9/15/2006 3:23:22 PM (3211 views)
Re: TIme for a chuckle - an uninformed client? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
9/18/2006 9:26:26 AM (3341 views)
Re: TIme for a chuckle - an uninformed client? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2006 3:36:12 PM (3270 views)
Re: TIme for a chuckle - an uninformed client? - Antonio KRUEGER/FL
9/22/2006 9:43:29 PM (3171 views)

Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Michael /KS
9/14/2006 12:06:50 AM (2899 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/14/2006 8:03:44 AM (3603 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Jan Forster/NC
9/14/2006 9:59:00 AM (3625 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/14/2006 11:36:54 AM (3483 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Jan Forster/NC
9/14/2006 11:55:01 AM (3422 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/14/2006 12:09:29 PM (3464 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Saundra  Scott/MD
9/18/2006 10:24:05 AM (3685 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Robert Franco/OH
9/14/2006 10:47:04 AM (3396 views)

That is terrible.  If Kansas is anything like Ohio, the licensing test is not an "abstracting" test, but a general title insurance test.  It requires knowledge of principals of abstracting, escrow, and insurance.  I would not be surprised if most "searchers" would fail such a test. 

In Ohio, in order to take the test, you have to be sponsored by an underwriter and that is the toughest part.  The underwriters are not looking to take risks and they want to be sure that their agents are knowledgeable if they are going to be writing policies and incuring liability on behalf of the underwriter.  Of course, the toughest problem the searchers have is that they don't write premium, so there is nothing in it for the underwriter.  The underwriters have expenses to keep their agents licensed as well.  They have fees that must be paid and they also provide the continuing education that is required.

It seems to me that Kansas is going to go back to the way things worked 15 years ago - when there were no independents.  All of the searchers will have to employed by the agents, in order to get licensed under a policy issuing representative of an underwriter.

I wonder what this will do to all of those companies in Coraopolis, PA, and elsewhere, that service the whole country.  It seems like such a bill would prohibit them from working in Kansas, which will create more work for the local title companies.  I just don't know how such a bill would be enforced against out-of-state companies unless the aim is just to put all of the independents out of business so they have nobody to do their work.

Let's hear from some others in Kansas and see how they are dealing with this new legislation. I'd also like to know where ALTA was??  Why did they not lobby to protect their members who were adversely affected?  This is exactly why we need an organization like NALTEA... nobody else is looking out for the abstractors. 

This is what I have been clamoring about for the past three years... NALTEA needs more members to effectively address these kinds of issues.  Others may just be seeing this as an issue in Kansas that does not affect them, but what happens when they try the same thing in other states??  If we all band together, we would have a voice that would be larger than any of us individually. 

I also wonder how this law effects attorneys.  Are they exempted from the law?  Providing an opinion of title, or conducting a title search, has other uses besides title insurance and, normally, it is considered the practice of law (whether or not that is enforced is a different issue).  Do attorneys need to be licensed and have an underwriter to do a title search for a client?  Seems ridiculous to require such a thing.  Maybe you should contact the bar association and see if they have an opinion on this.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Jay Duncan/MO
9/14/2006 1:21:24 PM (3385 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Deborah Manion/VA
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Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Jay Duncan/MO
9/14/2006 5:47:51 PM (3410 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - John Povejsil/MN
9/15/2006 7:24:39 AM (3476 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - David Bloys/TX
9/15/2006 9:03:57 AM (3451 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Sandra Morton/KS
9/18/2006 10:14:10 AM (3449 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - John Povejsil/MN
9/15/2006 7:13:45 AM (3496 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Wanda Steudel/OH
9/18/2006 2:02:17 PM (5114 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2006 3:42:57 PM (3384 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2006 6:16:02 PM (3384 views)
Re: Couldn't believe my ears...do you? - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2006 6:21:17 PM (3289 views)
More Kansas Abstractor License Info - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2006 1:41:22 PM (6223 views)

Anyone ever do work for? - terry sutton/CT
9/12/2006 11:36:20 PM (2711 views)
Re: Anyone ever do work for? - Lance Whitmore/MN
9/13/2006 1:03:12 PM (3367 views)
Re: Anyone ever do work for? - Smitty Strickland/SC
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Re: Anyone ever do work for? - john franz/NJ
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It's almost time.... - Loretta Reed/MD
9/12/2006 11:26:28 PM (2615 views)
Re: It's almost time.... - Jan Forster/NC
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Re: It's almost time.... - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: It's almost time.... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: It's almost time.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: It's almost time.... - Deborah Manion/VA
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Re: It's almost time.... - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: It's almost time.... - Marc Cohen/MI
9/21/2006 10:31:48 AM (3215 views)

Outsourcing - tj/DE
9/12/2006 9:34:46 AM (3887 views)
Re: Outsourcing - Jan Forster/NC
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Re: Outsourcing - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
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Re: Outsourcing - Jan Forster/NC
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Re: Outsourcing - George Booth/TX
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Re: Outsourcing - Jan Forster/NC
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Re: Outsourcing - George Booth/TX
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Re: Outsourcing - Ricky Farrow/FL
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Re: Outsourcing - Cyril Gonzales, III/LA
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Re: Outsourcing - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Outsourcing - George Booth/TX
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Re: Outsourcing - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Outsourcing - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Outsourcing - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Outsourcing - Scott Perry/PA
9/18/2006 10:59:36 PM (3204 views)
Re: Outsourcing - George Booth/TX
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