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Grand Info Inc - Joanie Hahr/VT
5/19/2008 10:17:34 AM (4069 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/19/2008 10:22:21 PM (3619 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Laura Darby/OH
5/20/2008 9:27:12 AM (3536 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Virginia Capps/TN
5/20/2008 6:22:17 PM (3463 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/21/2008 5:54:07 PM (6338 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
5/21/2008 11:59:20 PM (3409 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/22/2008 12:39:10 PM (3274 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
5/22/2008 11:51:15 PM (3303 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - . APS/NY
5/23/2008 6:01:44 AM (3405 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/31/2008 4:39:05 PM (3188 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2008 8:32:54 PM (3125 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/1/2008 7:13:40 AM (3084 views)
Grand Info, etc. - Dave Pell/GA
6/1/2008 4:57:59 PM (3142 views)
Re: Grand Info, etc. - Robert Franco/OH
6/1/2008 6:08:14 PM (3134 views)
Re: Grand Info, etc. - Scott Perry/PA
6/1/2008 6:58:07 PM (3198 views)
Re: Grand Info, etc. - Vikki Moffitt/GA
6/1/2008 7:33:23 PM (3422 views)
Re: Grand Info, etc. - michael quinn/NY
6/2/2008 12:45:10 AM (2988 views)
Re: Grand Info, etc. - michael quinn/NY
6/2/2008 12:45:15 AM (3070 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/23/2008 7:06:17 AM (3566 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - J Nisonger/CA
5/25/2008 1:29:02 PM (3426 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - george Hubka/MI
5/26/2008 8:07:53 PM (3241 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Diane O'Neill/MI
5/27/2008 9:21:05 AM (3135 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - michael quinn/NY
5/27/2008 12:04:39 AM (3319 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/31/2008 4:46:36 PM (3096 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2008 8:38:23 PM (3843 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/31/2008 9:32:29 PM (3053 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
5/27/2008 6:56:59 AM (3280 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Diane O'Neill/MI
5/27/2008 9:07:19 AM (3338 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
6/1/2008 8:06:33 PM (3041 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Rob  Robinson/PA
6/9/2008 11:12:54 PM (3035 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
6/10/2008 12:03:22 AM (3139 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Rob  Robinson/PA
6/10/2008 2:21:52 AM (3018 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - michael quinn/NY
6/10/2008 3:08:32 AM (3109 views)
One more thing to add... - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2008 10:35:40 AM (3144 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - michael quinn/NY
6/10/2008 2:04:12 AM (3198 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/10/2008 7:53:22 AM (3024 views)

I would agree with you to the extent that an abstractor has missed an item on his abstract. That is why he/she should be carrying e&o insurance. In a situation such as this you should be asserting a claim against him/her. The insurance is there for your protection as much as his/hers. If you are using uninsured abstractors that is a problem you need to address.

Your reasoning with respect to late performance is a little more involved. There are a number of reasons why a search may be late...fragmented chains of title...discrepancies in legal descriptions...bankruptcies, etc. A good abstractor notifies his client of the difficulties within the time frame in the agreement, and the client is given the choice of extending the time for completion or finding another abstractor. If anything the problem is created by the TC's failure to allow sufficient time for complications that may arise during the search. I have received search orders requesting a six hour turn around because the parties want to close within the next twenty four hours. Our firm normally informs the client to look elsewhere for an abstractor. I can remember a time when the title search was one of the items performed early in the closing process rather than left to the last minute.

To follow your reasoning to the logical conclusion...If the TC finds that late delivery of the search is not acceptable, and refuses to pay for it the TC should also return the abstractor's work (his/her property) to him/her. In the event that the TC has used the late abstract for purposes of the closing...the TC has waived its right to timely performance, or in the alternative has accepted the benefits of the contract, and is equitably estopped from denying the validity of the contract.  While refusal to make payment may be appropriate when the abstractor's work is rejected, and returned to him/her, late payment is not acceptable if the TC uses the late abstract. It is a very simple matter for the abstractor to subpoena the records of the title insurance company to determine if his/her abstract was the basis upon which a title insurance commitment/policy was issued. Repeated failure of the title company to provide a reasonable explanation for non payment/slow payment makes it more likely that there is none or that the reason is only pretextual. It also makes it easier for the abstractor to collect his/her fee in litigation.

With respect to your claim of abstractors "trashing" title companies...I would invite you to present evidence in support of your assertion. I have been following the discussion on SOT for four years. So far I have seen abstractors posting claims of non payment/slow payment concerning title companies, making inquiries as to other abstractors' experiences with a particular title company or explaining that a particular title company's payment policies are not acceptable based upon their similar experiences with other title companies in the past. What you are seeing is the reaction of abstractors to years of having title companies pressure them for improved service coupled with a demand for reduction in their prices. Considering the expense of producing an accurate and timely abstract there is no room for further price reductions...nor late payment.

 

 

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Re: Grand Info Inc - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2008 10:42:36 AM (2977 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - michael quinn/NY
6/10/2008 11:37:16 PM (3118 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
6/11/2008 4:53:19 PM (3138 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
5/31/2008 4:51:49 PM (2963 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Scott Perry/PA
6/1/2008 7:57:56 PM (3087 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - george Hubka/MI
6/1/2008 10:57:20 PM (2885 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - george Hubka/MI
6/1/2008 10:52:34 PM (2926 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Robb Grandon/MI
6/3/2008 1:41:49 PM (3137 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - michael quinn/NY
6/3/2008 6:32:57 PM (2994 views)
Re: Grand Info Inc - Joanie Hahr/VT
6/24/2008 6:54:25 PM (2986 views)

Pilot Search Company - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/19/2008 9:08:34 AM (3825 views)
Re: Pilot Search Company - Chuck Y/NY
5/19/2008 1:38:31 PM (3823 views)
Re: Pilot Search Company - george Hubka/MI
5/19/2008 8:56:38 PM (3491 views)
Re: Pilot Search Company - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/20/2008 12:11:48 PM (3581 views)
Re: Pilot Search Company - Lucille Femine/NJ
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Re: Pilot Search Company - Mark Forbes/NY
8/14/2008 2:58:11 PM (2867 views)

HUD LISTINGS - Matt Pardue/KY
5/15/2008 5:23:43 PM (3657 views)
Re: HUD LISTINGS - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/16/2008 10:20:39 AM (6247 views)
Re: HUD LISTINGS - Matt Pardue/KY
5/17/2008 9:22:52 PM (3383 views)

ASA Real Estate Services - Glenda Hodge/TN
5/15/2008 12:49:28 PM (4062 views)
ASA Real Estate Services, Newington CT - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
5/16/2008 8:06:14 AM (4117 views)
Re: ASA Real Estate Services, Newington CT - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2008 8:51:40 AM (3953 views)
Re: ASA Real Estate Services, Newington CT - Glenda Hodge/TN
5/16/2008 11:40:32 AM (4425 views)
Try this to find ASA Real Estate Services - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
5/16/2008 1:35:14 PM (4304 views)
Re: ASA Real Estate Services - Joanie Hahr/VT
5/19/2008 10:08:56 AM (3740 views)

$50 Million Title Claim - Jeanine Johnson/FL
5/14/2008 6:11:27 PM (3363 views)




Gasoline Prices - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/14/2008 6:55:50 AM (3647 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Scott Perry/PA
5/14/2008 7:25:23 AM (3833 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/14/2008 7:59:17 AM (3845 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Scott Perry/PA
5/14/2008 11:31:53 AM (3788 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/14/2008 11:56:40 AM (3755 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Kurt deVries/FL
5/14/2008 1:12:02 PM (3705 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/14/2008 1:22:12 PM (3718 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Kurt deVries/FL
5/14/2008 1:29:45 PM (3717 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/14/2008 1:33:18 PM (3765 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - J Nisonger/CA
5/27/2008 7:33:18 PM (3614 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Scott Perry/PA
5/27/2008 10:14:49 PM (6009 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - J Nisonger/CA
5/30/2008 5:33:15 PM (3743 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Scott Perry/PA
5/14/2008 4:43:09 PM (6517 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Virginia Capps/TN
5/14/2008 4:52:45 PM (3793 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Scott Perry/PA
5/14/2008 4:58:57 PM (3831 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/27/2008 10:18:42 AM (3554 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Scott Perry/PA
5/27/2008 2:07:27 PM (3488 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/27/2008 3:58:55 PM (3546 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/27/2008 4:18:37 PM (3520 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/27/2008 4:28:55 PM (3460 views)
Meanwhile, back at the ranch... - Scott Perry/PA
5/27/2008 2:30:44 PM (3775 views)
Re: Meanwhile, back at the ranch... - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/27/2008 3:00:17 PM (3498 views)
Re: Meanwhile, back at the ranch... - Scott Perry/PA
5/27/2008 10:21:09 PM (3563 views)
Re: Meanwhile, back at the ranch... - J Nisonger/CA
5/30/2008 5:36:37 PM (3511 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/30/2008 8:03:07 AM (3456 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - Scott Perry/PA
5/30/2008 5:06:23 PM (3464 views)
Re: Gasoline Prices - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/30/2008 5:26:01 PM (3720 views)

Advantage Title - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
5/13/2008 6:10:33 PM (3384 views)

Infinity International Processing Services - Lynn Hammett/SC
5/13/2008 11:54:42 AM (4627 views)
Re: Infinity International Processing Services - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/13/2008 1:58:05 PM (4469 views)
Re: Infinity International Processing Services - Margaret Tobin/NC
5/14/2008 1:41:02 PM (4092 views)
Re: Infinity International Processing Services - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/14/2008 1:47:33 PM (4046 views)
Re: Infinity International Processing Services - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/14/2008 2:49:34 PM (4153 views)
Re: Infinity International Processing Services - Phil McLean/CO
5/15/2008 11:42:00 AM (4213 views)
DARN Infinity International Processing Services - J Nisonger/CA
5/20/2008 9:07:58 PM (3990 views)
Re: DARN Infinity International Processing Services - David Bloys/TX
5/20/2008 10:01:27 PM (3946 views)
Re: DARN Infinity International Processing Services - Edward Huguenin/SC
5/21/2008 3:08:34 AM (3928 views)
Re: DARN Infinity International Processing Services - J Nisonger/CA
5/25/2008 2:38:39 PM (3826 views)
Re: DARN Infinity International Processing Services - Edward Huguenin/SC
5/25/2008 3:10:27 PM (7122 views)
Re: DARN Infinity International Processing Services - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/21/2008 6:37:06 AM (3889 views)
Re: DARN Infinity International Processing Services - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/21/2008 3:51:55 PM (3891 views)
Re: DARN Infinity International Processing Services - Brandon/MI
6/19/2008 2:03:24 PM (3611 views)

HUD Extends Comment Period Until June 12th - Lynn Hammett/SC
5/13/2008 11:12:00 AM (3508 views)
Re: HUD Extends Comment Period Until June 12th - Janis Talbot/SC
5/20/2008 10:06:51 PM (3779 views)
Re: HUD Extends Comment Period Until June 12th - Patrick Scott/IL
5/21/2008 1:09:23 AM (3644 views)
Re: HUD Extends Comment Period Until June 12th - Robert Franco/OH
5/21/2008 2:27:26 AM (3668 views)
Re: HUD Extends Comment Period Until June 12th - Patrick Scott/IL
5/21/2008 3:13:53 AM (3630 views)
Re: HUD Extends Comment Period Until June 12th - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/21/2008 9:44:56 AM (3571 views)
Re: HUD Extends Comment Period Until June 12th - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/21/2008 10:06:17 AM (3497 views)
Re: HUD Extends Comment Period Until June 12th - Patrick Scott/IL
5/23/2008 12:27:51 AM (3647 views)

If you have any errors on the Forums today... - Slade Smith/OH
5/13/2008 8:12:23 AM (2985 views)

United Lenders Services - Cheryl O/VA
5/12/2008 8:23:00 PM (3184 views)

Slowdown - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
5/12/2008 6:15:41 PM (3813 views)
Re: Slowdown - Ron McPherson/IA
5/12/2008 10:36:37 PM (4197 views)
Re: Slowdown - J Nisonger/CA
5/13/2008 1:00:21 AM (4217 views)
Re: Slowdown - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/13/2008 6:35:31 AM (4088 views)
Re: Slowdown - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/13/2008 10:44:12 AM (4239 views)
Re: Slowdown - Michelle/IL
5/13/2008 1:25:36 PM (4156 views)

National Equity Services - Robert Franco/OH
5/12/2008 3:03:10 PM (3788 views)
Re: National Equity Services - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/12/2008 3:55:15 PM (4052 views)
Re: National Equity Services - Jim Lissemore/NJ
5/19/2008 8:33:42 AM (3857 views)

Equifax - Wendi See/SC
5/12/2008 1:19:26 PM (3630 views)
Re: Equifax - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/12/2008 5:06:30 PM (4060 views)
Re: Equifax - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
5/13/2008 7:36:26 PM (4022 views)
Re: Equifax - Carla Curry/KY
5/13/2008 10:24:27 PM (3935 views)

4 Day Work Week? - Carla Curry/KY
5/10/2008 8:00:38 PM (3880 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
5/11/2008 12:33:59 PM (4226 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - Michaela Urban/OH
5/12/2008 7:42:49 AM (4038 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
5/12/2008 6:12:55 PM (3978 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - Michaela Urban/OH
5/15/2008 12:10:01 PM (4115 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - David Bloys/TX
5/15/2008 7:11:46 PM (4085 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - Scott Perry/PA
5/15/2008 11:53:42 PM (4012 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - David Bloys/TX
5/16/2008 9:11:18 AM (3937 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - William Pattison /CA
6/19/2008 2:19:40 PM (3695 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/20/2008 9:29:23 AM (3790 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week?..in VA - Loretta Reed/MD
6/21/2008 7:06:39 PM (3751 views)
Re: 4 Day Work Week? - William Pattison /CA
7/7/2008 10:35:29 AM (3565 views)


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