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Taxes made simple - Tax Man/MO
9/16/2008 5:11:14 PM (3324 views)
Re: Taxes made simple - Slade Smith/OH
9/16/2008 7:14:39 PM (7177 views)

While very simplistic, the lesson below is a spot on analysis

The definition of simplistic"characterized by extreme and often misleading simplicity."  We will agree that this contrived fable is simplistic.   

First off, this idea that the working poor pay no tax at all is misleading.  They pay Medicare and Social Security tax at a higher effective rate than the rich.  Since they must spend a higher percentage of their income on the basics, sales taxes such as the gas tax hit the poor at a much higher rate than the rich.  The poor are hit harder by government user fees than the rich-- for example in most states, the poor person spends the same amount to register their $1000 beater at the DMV as the rich person spends to register their $70,000 Lexus. 

Secondly, "the tenth man" has improved his lot under the tax laws dramaically over the past 50 years or so.  Take a look for yourself at how the top marginal income tax rate has dropped over the past several decades.  Top marginal rates were 91% in the 50s and 70% during the 70s.  The tenth man didn't leave the country then, and nobody is seriously suggesting a return to those kind of confiscatory tax rates anyway.  Most proponents of tax increases for the rich suggest repeal of the Bush tax cuts, which would mean raising the top marginal tax rate from the current 35% to 39.6%.  If people are willing to abandon the United States over a minor tax tweak like this, then good riddance.  If these "friendlier" countries overseas didn't have the United States providing what amounts to a worldwide military defense, they'd have to charge higher taxes themselves to build and maintian their own security forces.  But having a smaller military and abandoning our role as world policeman is unacceptable to some Republicans, who have contempt and fear of any and all strength outside of the United States.

Finally, many of us Democrats fully appreciate the vast amount of taxes paid by the rich.  The idea that Democrats are as a group are obsessed by class envy is just not true.  True Democrats are pro business, pro capitalism, pro free enterprise, and believe that an honest, law-abiding American should be able to enjoy the fruits of his or her own labors.  Republicans like to sieze upon the views of a few far-left Socialists who may vote Democratic but hardly reflect the majority view of the party.

 

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Re: Taxes made simple - george Hubka/MI
9/16/2008 9:35:39 PM (4398 views)
Re: Taxes made simple - Robert Franco/OH
9/16/2008 11:48:42 PM (4248 views)
Re: Taxes made simple - Slade Smith/OH
9/17/2008 1:07:45 AM (6893 views)
Re: Taxes made simple - george Hubka/MI
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ROFLOL . switching to scotch - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
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Re: ROFLOL . switching to scotch - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/22/2008 3:49:43 PM (4274 views)
Re: ROFLOL . switching to scotch - Robert Franco/OH
9/23/2008 10:46:00 AM (4162 views)
Making Taxes Simple - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: ROFLOL . switching to scotch - george Hubka/MI
9/24/2008 5:40:06 AM (4149 views)
Re: ROFLOL . switching to scotch - Robert Franco/OH
9/24/2008 2:29:15 PM (4187 views)
Re: ROFLOL . switching to scotch - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: ROFLOL . switching to scotch - george Hubka/MI
9/24/2008 10:50:15 PM (4110 views)
Re: ROFLOL . switching to scotch - Robert Franco/OH
9/25/2008 12:09:41 AM (4014 views)
Re: ROFLOL . switching to scotch - Scott Perry/PA
9/25/2008 6:51:10 AM (4129 views)
Re: ROFLOL . switching to scotch - Robert Franco/OH
9/25/2008 10:30:57 AM (4010 views)
Re: ROFLOL . switching to scotch - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/25/2008 12:27:35 PM (4191 views)
Re: ROFLOL . switching to scotch - george Hubka/MI
9/25/2008 2:45:26 PM (4081 views)
Re: ROFLOL . switching to scotch - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: ROFLOL . switching to scotch - george Hubka/MI
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Re: ROFLOL . switching to scotch - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: ROFLOL . switching to scotch - Clanci Nelson/OH
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Re: ROFLOL . switching to scotch - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: ROFLOL . switching to scotch - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/26/2008 3:52:05 PM (4087 views)

Independent Agents: Save the date, Oct. 6... - Robert Franco/OH
9/16/2008 11:24:14 AM (5150 views)
Re: Independent Agents: Save the date, Oct. 6... - Kelli Marske/MI
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Re: Independent Agents: Save the date, Oct. 6... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Independent Agents: Save the date, Oct. 6... - john rutledge/VA
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Re: Independent Agents: Save the date, Oct. 6... - Robert Franco/OH
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American Abstract - Robin Ramberg/MI
9/16/2008 2:02:08 AM (3655 views)
Re: American Abstract - Patrick/NY
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Re: American Abstract - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: American Abstract - Patrick/NY
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Re: American Abstract - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: American Abstract - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: American Abstract - elizabeth reddy/FL
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Re: American Abstract - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: American Abstract - Chris Mabie/VA
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Re: American Abstract - Patrick Tarr/NE
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E &O Insurance - Matthew DeLand/NY
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Re: E &O Insurance - Amy Haynes/KY
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Re: E &O Insurance - Glenda Hodge/TN
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Re: E &O Insurance - Pamela Thomas/NC
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What are some of your thoughts on the Lehman's situation? - Vikki Moffitt/GA
9/15/2008 2:08:01 PM (3289 views)
Re: What are some of your thoughts on the Lehman's situation? - Robert Franco/OH
9/15/2008 2:20:21 PM (4000 views)
Re: What are some of your thoughts on the Lehman's situation? - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: What are some of your thoughts on the Lehman's situation? - Vikki Moffitt/GA
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Advanced Title - Karen Neal/CT
9/15/2008 8:08:52 AM (2840 views)

LATE SEARCH PENALTY - ARE YOU KIDDING ME? - Jill Kissell/IA
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Re: LATE SEARCH PENALTY - ARE YOU KIDDING ME? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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Re: LATE SEARCH PENALTY - ARE YOU KIDDING ME? - michael quinn/NY
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Re: LATE SEARCH PENALTY - ARE YOU KIDDING ME? - john franz/NJ
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Re: LATE SEARCH PENALTY - ARE YOU KIDDING ME? - William Hess/AL
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Re: LATE SEARCH PENALTY - ARE YOU KIDDING ME? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: LATE SEARCH PENALTY - ARE YOU KIDDING ME? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: LATE SEARCH PENALTY - ARE YOU KIDDING ME? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: LATE SEARCH PENALTY - ARE YOU KIDDING ME? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: LATE SEARCH PENALTY - ARE YOU KIDDING ME? - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: LATE SEARCH PENALTY - ARE YOU KIDDING ME? - Jill Kissell/IA
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Let the takeover of the market begin - Jackie/OH
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Re: Let the takeover of the market begin - Omit/AK
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Re: Let the takeover of the market begin - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Let the takeover of the market begin - Jackie/OH
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Re: Let the takeover of the market begin - Robert Franco/OH
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Texas Pioneer Title Agency - Mark Walker - Kurt deVries/FL
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ABSOLUTE PROPERTY SERVICES - Robin Ramberg/MI
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Re: ABSOLUTE PROPERTY SERVICES - Vikki Moffitt/GA
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Re: ABSOLUTE PROPERTY SERVICES - Robin Ramberg/MI
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American Freedom Assurance - Jennifer Knott/PA
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No Pay Companies - Scott Aduddell/MO
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Re: No Pay Companies - Vikki Moffitt/GA
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Re: No Pay Companies - Scott Aduddell/MO
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Re: No Pay Companies - michael quinn/NY
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Re: No Pay Companies - george Hubka/MI
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