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Maverick National Services, LLC - Ron McPherson/IA
5/13/2009 10:27:35 AM (6025 views)

More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/13/2009 9:59:18 AM (5348 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/13/2009 12:00:36 PM (4165 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/13/2009 3:44:12 PM (4225 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/13/2009 6:00:07 PM (4234 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jean Allen/NC
5/13/2009 8:12:10 PM (4163 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/14/2009 9:39:42 AM (4006 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jean Allen/NC
5/14/2009 3:51:57 PM (4035 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/14/2009 4:35:51 PM (4088 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Ron McPherson/IA
5/13/2009 9:00:29 PM (4059 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Helene /GA
5/13/2009 10:50:29 PM (4080 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/14/2009 9:41:30 AM (4091 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Dorothy Payne/NY
5/14/2009 12:10:40 AM (4020 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Robert Franco/OH
5/14/2009 9:42:35 AM (3973 views)
Re: More fees to advance - William Case/TN
5/14/2009 10:13:52 AM (5921 views)
Re: More fees to advance - Diane Cipa/PA
5/18/2009 11:47:00 AM (4011 views)

Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Bill Jones/NJ
5/12/2009 10:38:46 AM (9931 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Shona Dunning/WY
5/12/2009 11:10:25 AM (5434 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/12/2009 3:00:13 PM (4755 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Kim/WI
5/13/2009 9:34:44 AM (4902 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Mandy Harmon/SC
5/18/2009 3:59:54 PM (4492 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Michele  Peele/NC
5/18/2009 8:17:18 PM (4423 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - george Hubka/MI
5/18/2009 8:27:06 PM (4497 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Mike Campbell/FL
5/20/2009 3:22:01 PM (5568 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - george Hubka/MI
5/20/2009 8:51:04 PM (4569 views)
Re: Doc Hunters, Clearwater, FL - Mike Campbell/FL
4/6/2012 11:45:29 AM (6157 views)

Status - Becky Vigneault/VT
5/11/2009 9:31:54 PM (3247 views)

Carteret Title - Kristi Lee/NE
5/11/2009 11:38:32 AM (4311 views)
Re: Carteret Title - Shona Dunning/WY
5/11/2009 2:44:04 PM (4324 views)
Re: Carteret Title - martha campbell/VA
5/11/2009 8:57:54 PM (4217 views)
Re: Carteret Title - Jean Lurtsema/AK
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Re: Carteret Title - Ron McPherson/IA
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Applied Technology Resources - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
5/8/2009 6:06:33 PM (4096 views)
Re: Applied Technology Resources - Kimberly Gray/AR
5/11/2009 6:41:39 AM (4258 views)
Re: Applied Technology Resources - Mandy Harmon/SC
5/11/2009 12:44:55 PM (4283 views)
Re: Applied Technology Resources - Nils Nelson/ME
5/11/2009 8:25:00 PM (4025 views)

Woman admits taking $3.4M from SP company - George Booth/OH
5/6/2009 10:29:06 PM (4664 views)

Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
5/6/2009 7:12:06 PM (4026 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/6/2009 8:17:09 PM (4390 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Dan Zook/NY
5/7/2009 9:13:42 AM (4223 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2009 6:16:05 PM (4179 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - William Pattison /CA
5/28/2009 1:01:52 PM (3931 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
5/29/2009 9:57:09 PM (3964 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Constance Foye/VA
5/11/2009 12:35:17 PM (4356 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
5/12/2009 9:12:19 AM (4086 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/30/2009 8:10:43 AM (4023 views)
Re: Pet Peeves - george Hubka/MI
6/10/2009 10:57:40 PM (3953 views)

REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Frank NAVARRO/IL
5/6/2009 7:11:32 PM (13682 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2009 6:10:43 PM (5098 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Frank NAVARRO/IL
5/8/2009 6:44:57 PM (5597 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - TS/WI
5/10/2009 12:49:37 AM (5391 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
5/11/2009 7:58:50 AM (4921 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Jean Lurtsema/AK
5/11/2009 10:48:08 PM (4867 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
5/14/2009 8:10:20 AM (4733 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Ellen Maher/MI
6/12/2009 12:29:16 PM (4570 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
6/14/2009 10:25:40 PM (4734 views)
Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Wade Briner/MN
6/11/2009 3:44:53 PM (4674 views)

Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - Cheryl Hartzman/PA
5/4/2009 3:30:31 PM (4688 views)
Re: Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - Barbara King/VA
5/11/2009 9:46:58 AM (4499 views)
Re: Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - george Hubka/MI
5/14/2009 8:12:08 AM (4123 views)

New Clients - Mike /KS
5/3/2009 8:19:42 AM (4617 views)
Re: New Clients - monica froese/ME
5/3/2009 9:39:52 PM (4487 views)
Re: New Clients - george Hubka/MI
5/4/2009 7:54:05 AM (4383 views)
Re: New Clients - Robert Franco/OH
5/4/2009 10:50:19 AM (4302 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/4/2009 11:52:50 AM (4385 views)
Re: New Clients - Dan Zook/NY
5/4/2009 1:31:05 PM (4248 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: New Clients - Constance Foye/VA
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Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/5/2009 8:47:15 AM (4267 views)
Re: New Clients - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/8/2009 12:25:22 AM (4117 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/8/2009 10:40:51 AM (4077 views)
Re: New Clients - martha campbell/VA
5/11/2009 8:44:42 AM (4036 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/11/2009 12:24:12 PM (3978 views)
Re: New Clients - martha campbell/VA
5/11/2009 3:41:38 PM (3999 views)
I did not post about .. - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/11/2009 4:03:12 PM (3942 views)
Re: New Clients - Joseph Weaver/VA
5/11/2009 5:27:48 PM (4023 views)
Re: New Clients - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/8/2009 12:25:26 AM (4041 views)
Re: New Clients - Jennifer Lawrence/AR
5/11/2009 8:14:51 AM (3966 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/13/2009 3:26:27 PM (4086 views)
Re: New Clients - Margaret Haddock/TN
5/11/2009 8:44:18 AM (4047 views)
Re: New Clients - Jason Knowles/AL
5/15/2009 3:36:04 PM (3980 views)
Re: New Clients - William Pattison /CA
5/28/2009 1:09:31 PM (3778 views)

Why don't we charge up front? - Patrick Ridens/CO
5/2/2009 11:34:19 PM (4924 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Chad/OR
5/3/2009 8:23:01 AM (4247 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Alix Ott/MI
5/4/2009 8:03:35 AM (4335 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Patricia Kearney/OH
8/4/2009 9:37:45 AM (3681 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - William Case/TN
5/4/2009 3:20:41 PM (6216 views)

Greetings Patrick:

I do require payment at the time services are rendered with some clients.

If I get an order from someone with whom I have never dealt, and with whom I will probably never deal again, I tell them up front that upon my completion of their work they will be invoiced via PayPal and upon payment of the invoice I will forward my opinion of title.

Invariably three things happen next:

   1. They say that they have never done things that way before. I politely tell them that I understand, but that is how I work with new, out of town, clients.
   2. They then say that they do not have a PayPal account. I remind them that they do not need a PayPal account to pay via PayPal, and direct them to the PayPal site to learn more. They say they will look into it. I figure that half the time they are shopping around for someone else, but then...
   3. They call back and say they will pay via PayPal.

I have done this multiple times. Always with success.

When doing this it is important ...

   1. that you are polite and professional
   2. that you do not project an arrogant "take it or leave it" attitude
   3. that you are ready for their objections with the answers set out above

Since you are usually talking to someone lower on the food chain, and not the ultimate decision maker, remember to...

   1. Be kind, they are doing the best they can with the novel situation you have just presented.
   2. Adopt a helpful attitude and briefly educate him/her about PayPal so they can report back to their superiors knowledgeably.
   3. Point out that you are not requesting money up front. Remind them that they will only be billed upon completion of the work. Assure them that you are raring to go on their project as soon as they give you the word and "times a wastin."
   4. Do what you promise to do and send them the work immediately when they pay.

I do not do this with clients with whom I've developed a good working relationship, but I do monitor their payments carefully.

You take a certain amount of risk here by working without payment up front. However, if they do not pay you as agreed you simply do not send the work. It's better than submitting work that the unknown client uses then never pays you for.

Remember too that in the scenario I am describing, the client does not know you either. You at least take steps to alleviate their fears of the great unknown (namely, YOU) by not requiring payment until you at least purport to have done the work. Additionally, they have the hope of some recourse through PayPal for reimbursement of their payment should you utterly fail to deliver the product you invoiced them for.

There are two other things going for you right now that make it easier to take the PayPal approach I outline above:

   1. In the current fearful economic climate it is understandable for parties who do not know each other to deal with each other more cautiously, even if that means adopting new non-standard methods as long as those methods appear reasonable and secure.
   2. Over the years, in spite of its rather lame name, PayPal has come to symbolize security in internet payments between parties who do not know each other. It is the way to pay for goods and services on the internet. eBay saw this early on. That's why they acquired PayPal in a 1.3 billion dollar stock deal in 2002. A bit of PayPal’s image rubs off on you by using them. Guilt by association you know.

I hope this gives you some food for thought. As I said, I do not use PayPal across the board, but I use it frequently when the situation seems to call for it. It is one more tool for your tool box.

Sincerely,

David Case

wdavidcase.com

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Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Alix Ott/MI
5/11/2009 10:01:43 AM (3981 views)

transactional funding - Chet Mazur/CA
5/2/2009 3:32:46 PM (3907 views)
Good Luck, Dude. - Patrick Scott/IL
5/2/2009 9:49:02 PM (3955 views)
Re: Good Luck, Dude. - Thomas/FL
5/7/2009 8:07:41 PM (3879 views)
Re: Good Luck, Dude. - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2009 6:37:57 PM (3733 views)

National TitleNet - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
5/1/2009 6:11:42 PM (3934 views)
Re: National TitleNet - Nils Nelson/ME
5/1/2009 6:50:31 PM (4114 views)
Re: National TitleNet - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
5/1/2009 6:59:34 PM (4041 views)

Reliance Information Source (sorry) - Dan Zook/NY
5/1/2009 12:52:19 PM (3954 views)
Re: Reliance Information Source (sorry) - Nils Nelson/ME
5/1/2009 6:47:37 PM (4109 views)
Re: Reliance Information Source (sorry) - Dorothy Payne/NY
5/1/2009 7:20:07 PM (4114 views)
Thank you! - Dan Zook/NY
5/4/2009 11:12:27 AM (3831 views)


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