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Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - Cheryl Hartzman/PA
5/4/2009 3:30:31 PM (4613 views)
Re: Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - Barbara King/VA
5/11/2009 9:46:58 AM (4116 views)
Re: Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - george Hubka/MI
5/14/2009 8:12:08 AM (3822 views)

New Clients - Mike /KS
5/3/2009 8:19:42 AM (4577 views)
Re: New Clients - monica froese/ME
5/3/2009 9:39:52 PM (4164 views)
Re: New Clients - george Hubka/MI
5/4/2009 7:54:05 AM (4094 views)
Re: New Clients - Robert Franco/OH
5/4/2009 10:50:19 AM (4018 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/4/2009 11:52:50 AM (4083 views)
Re: New Clients - Dan Zook/NY
5/4/2009 1:31:05 PM (3949 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: New Clients - Constance Foye/VA
5/12/2009 6:39:45 PM (3736 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/5/2009 8:47:15 AM (3975 views)
Re: New Clients - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/8/2009 12:25:22 AM (3851 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/8/2009 10:40:51 AM (3783 views)
Re: New Clients - martha campbell/VA
5/11/2009 8:44:42 AM (3738 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/11/2009 12:24:12 PM (3728 views)
Re: New Clients - martha campbell/VA
5/11/2009 3:41:38 PM (3732 views)
I did not post about .. - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/11/2009 4:03:12 PM (3660 views)
Re: New Clients - Joseph Weaver/VA
5/11/2009 5:27:48 PM (3753 views)
Re: New Clients - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/8/2009 12:25:26 AM (3763 views)
Re: New Clients - Jennifer Lawrence/AR
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Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/13/2009 3:26:27 PM (3815 views)
Re: New Clients - Margaret Haddock/TN
5/11/2009 8:44:18 AM (3769 views)
Re: New Clients - Jason Knowles/AL
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Re: New Clients - William Pattison /CA
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Why don't we charge up front? - Patrick Ridens/CO
5/2/2009 11:34:19 PM (4843 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Chad/OR
5/3/2009 8:23:01 AM (3991 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Alix Ott/MI
5/4/2009 8:03:35 AM (4095 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Patricia Kearney/OH
8/4/2009 9:37:45 AM (3447 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - William Case/TN
5/4/2009 3:20:41 PM (5944 views)

Greetings Patrick:

I do require payment at the time services are rendered with some clients.

If I get an order from someone with whom I have never dealt, and with whom I will probably never deal again, I tell them up front that upon my completion of their work they will be invoiced via PayPal and upon payment of the invoice I will forward my opinion of title.

Invariably three things happen next:

   1. They say that they have never done things that way before. I politely tell them that I understand, but that is how I work with new, out of town, clients.
   2. They then say that they do not have a PayPal account. I remind them that they do not need a PayPal account to pay via PayPal, and direct them to the PayPal site to learn more. They say they will look into it. I figure that half the time they are shopping around for someone else, but then...
   3. They call back and say they will pay via PayPal.

I have done this multiple times. Always with success.

When doing this it is important ...

   1. that you are polite and professional
   2. that you do not project an arrogant "take it or leave it" attitude
   3. that you are ready for their objections with the answers set out above

Since you are usually talking to someone lower on the food chain, and not the ultimate decision maker, remember to...

   1. Be kind, they are doing the best they can with the novel situation you have just presented.
   2. Adopt a helpful attitude and briefly educate him/her about PayPal so they can report back to their superiors knowledgeably.
   3. Point out that you are not requesting money up front. Remind them that they will only be billed upon completion of the work. Assure them that you are raring to go on their project as soon as they give you the word and "times a wastin."
   4. Do what you promise to do and send them the work immediately when they pay.

I do not do this with clients with whom I've developed a good working relationship, but I do monitor their payments carefully.

You take a certain amount of risk here by working without payment up front. However, if they do not pay you as agreed you simply do not send the work. It's better than submitting work that the unknown client uses then never pays you for.

Remember too that in the scenario I am describing, the client does not know you either. You at least take steps to alleviate their fears of the great unknown (namely, YOU) by not requiring payment until you at least purport to have done the work. Additionally, they have the hope of some recourse through PayPal for reimbursement of their payment should you utterly fail to deliver the product you invoiced them for.

There are two other things going for you right now that make it easier to take the PayPal approach I outline above:

   1. In the current fearful economic climate it is understandable for parties who do not know each other to deal with each other more cautiously, even if that means adopting new non-standard methods as long as those methods appear reasonable and secure.
   2. Over the years, in spite of its rather lame name, PayPal has come to symbolize security in internet payments between parties who do not know each other. It is the way to pay for goods and services on the internet. eBay saw this early on. That's why they acquired PayPal in a 1.3 billion dollar stock deal in 2002. A bit of PayPal’s image rubs off on you by using them. Guilt by association you know.

I hope this gives you some food for thought. As I said, I do not use PayPal across the board, but I use it frequently when the situation seems to call for it. It is one more tool for your tool box.

Sincerely,

David Case

wdavidcase.com

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Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Alix Ott/MI
5/11/2009 10:01:43 AM (3723 views)

transactional funding - Chet Mazur/CA
5/2/2009 3:32:46 PM (3856 views)
Good Luck, Dude. - Patrick Scott/IL
5/2/2009 9:49:02 PM (3669 views)
Re: Good Luck, Dude. - Thomas/FL
5/7/2009 8:07:41 PM (3630 views)
Re: Good Luck, Dude. - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2009 6:37:57 PM (3504 views)

National TitleNet - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
5/1/2009 6:11:42 PM (3869 views)
Re: National TitleNet - Nils Nelson/ME
5/1/2009 6:50:31 PM (3869 views)
Re: National TitleNet - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
5/1/2009 6:59:34 PM (3815 views)




Reliance Information Source (sorry) - Dan Zook/NY
5/1/2009 12:52:19 PM (3889 views)
Re: Reliance Information Source (sorry) - Nils Nelson/ME
5/1/2009 6:47:37 PM (3888 views)
Re: Reliance Information Source (sorry) - Dorothy Payne/NY
5/1/2009 7:20:07 PM (3885 views)
Thank you! - Dan Zook/NY
5/4/2009 11:12:27 AM (3604 views)

Reliant Info Source - Dan Zook/NY
5/1/2009 10:35:01 AM (3727 views)
Re: Reliant Info Source - Nils Nelson/ME
5/1/2009 11:19:02 AM (3842 views)
Re: Reliant Info Source - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: Reliant Info Source - KRISTI PERRY/ID
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Re: Reliant Info Source - Daedra Nelson/WA
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Back Forty Abstracts, LLC (Belton, SC) - Edward Huguenin/SC
4/29/2009 8:02:03 PM (4259 views)
Re: Back Forty Abstracts, LLC (Belton, SC) - Leigh Rampey/SC
4/30/2009 8:10:23 AM (4072 views)
Re: Back Forty Abstracts, LLC (Belton, SC) - george Hubka/MI
5/1/2009 10:20:25 PM (3712 views)
Re: Back Forty Abstracts, LLC (Belton, SC) - Edward Huguenin/SC
7/19/2009 1:05:20 PM (3473 views)
Re: Back Forty Abstracts, LLC (Belton, SC) - george Hubka/MI
8/9/2009 10:28:53 PM (3567 views)

forgiving payment for services rendered in PA not a good idea - Diane Cipa/PA
4/27/2009 3:06:02 PM (6119 views)
Re: forgiving payment for services rendered in PA not a good idea - Patrick Scott/IL
4/27/2009 10:26:47 PM (3782 views)
Re: forgiving payment for services rendered in PA not a good idea - Diane Cipa/PA
4/28/2009 11:56:52 AM (3812 views)
Re: forgiving payment for services rendered in PA not a good idea - Patrick Scott/IL
4/28/2009 12:34:18 PM (3685 views)
Re: forgiving payment for services rendered in PA not a good idea - Diane Cipa/PA
4/29/2009 1:08:58 PM (3625 views)
Re: forgiving payment for services rendered in PA not a good idea - Robert Franco/OH
4/29/2009 2:41:30 PM (3698 views)
Re: forgiving payment for services rendered in PA not a good idea - Diane Cipa/PA
4/29/2009 3:38:14 PM (3746 views)
Re: forgiving payment for services rendered in PA not a good idea - Robert Franco/OH
4/29/2009 4:16:37 PM (3763 views)

NALTEA Certified Abstractor Seminar - Jeanine Johnson/MN
4/27/2009 12:05:36 PM (4988 views)

Info on Pro Title USA - george Hubka/MI
4/26/2009 3:21:45 PM (15804 views)
Re: Info on Pro Title USA - Lance Whitmore/MN
4/27/2009 8:19:34 AM (9019 views)
Re: Info on Pro Title USA - Sean  Barrett /RI
4/27/2009 8:41:07 AM (5713 views)
Re: Info on Pro Title USA - Kurt deVries/FL
4/27/2009 11:02:49 AM (5123 views)
Re: Info on Pro Title USA - george Hubka/MI
4/27/2009 10:06:54 PM (4840 views)
Re: Info on Pro Title USA - Bill Jones/NJ
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Re: Info on Pro Title USA - Michele  Peele/NC
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Ameristar Payment - jess barker/IL
4/25/2009 10:19:04 AM (5143 views)
Re: Ameristar Payment - Nils Nelson/ME
4/26/2009 10:47:34 PM (4301 views)
Re: Ameristar Payment - Susan/WI
4/27/2009 9:07:12 AM (4198 views)
Re: Ameristar Payment - Alix Ott/MI
4/27/2009 11:12:39 AM (3917 views)
Re: Ameristar Payment - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/27/2009 11:59:21 AM (3987 views)
Re: Ameristar Payment - Deanna Clayton/VA
5/5/2009 10:29:48 AM (4030 views)
Re: Ameristar Payment - Stephen Williams/MO
5/5/2009 5:53:52 PM (4058 views)
Re: Ameristar Payment - Jean Lurtsema/AK
5/11/2009 10:39:26 PM (3842 views)
Re: Ameristar Payment - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Ameristar Payment - Jean Lurtsema/AK
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Re: Ameristar Payment - jane guiles/AL
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Visionet Systems - Carl Ashford/CO
4/24/2009 6:02:23 PM (6667 views)
Re: Visionet Systems - Dorothy Payne/NY
4/26/2009 11:58:43 AM (4368 views)

Homeowners Rush to Refinance... - Susan /WI
4/23/2009 4:05:22 PM (5178 views)
Re: Homeowners Rush to Refinance... - Patrick Scott/IL
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Re: Homeowners Rush to Refinance... - Donna Stovall/NY
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Need your help - Randall Johnston/TX
4/21/2009 10:53:32 AM (3705 views)
Re: Need your help - Alix Ott/MI
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Re: Need your help - Eric Mattson/WV
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