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Indepth Solutions - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
6/19/2009 11:39:30 AM (3949 views)
Re: Indepth Solutions - Jason Knowles/AL
6/19/2009 11:53:05 AM (4396 views)
Re: Indepth Solutions - Dan Zook/NY
6/19/2009 2:53:37 PM (4548 views)
Re: Indepth Solutions - Katrina Chambers/AR
6/22/2009 9:44:23 AM (4377 views)

HOW DO I BECOME AN INDEPENDENT ABSTRACTOR? - Kesha Hamilton/TN
6/19/2009 11:03:17 AM (11270 views)
Re: HOW DO I BECOME AN INDEPENDENT ABSTRACTOR? - Jason Knowles/AL
6/19/2009 11:55:59 AM (5177 views)
Not to hurt your feelings, BUT - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
6/19/2009 12:13:10 PM (5525 views)
Re: Not to hurt your feelings, BUT - Kesha Hamilton/TN
6/20/2009 2:03:15 PM (5184 views)
Re: HOW DO I BECOME AN INDEPENDENT ABSTRACTOR? - Robert Franco/OH
6/19/2009 3:35:25 PM (5281 views)
Re: HOW DO I BECOME AN INDEPENDENT ABSTRACTOR? - george Hubka/MI
6/19/2009 7:56:13 PM (5032 views)
Re: HOW DO I BECOME AN INDEPENDENT ABSTRACTOR? - William Pattison /CA
6/22/2009 2:59:00 PM (4881 views)
Re: HOW DO I BECOME AN INDEPENDENT ABSTRACTOR? - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
6/29/2009 12:56:49 PM (4598 views)
Re: HOW DO I BECOME AN INDEPENDENT ABSTRACTOR? - William Pattison /CA
7/6/2009 2:24:56 AM (4699 views)
Re: HOW DO I BECOME AN INDEPENDENT ABSTRACTOR? - Barry Campbell/NY
7/13/2009 1:59:57 AM (4745 views)
Re: HOW DO I BECOME AN INDEPENDENT ABSTRACTOR? - george Hubka/MI
7/14/2009 4:58:14 AM (4665 views)
Re: HOW DO I BECOME AN INDEPENDENT ABSTRACTOR? - Barry Campbell/NY
7/19/2009 3:32:55 PM (4628 views)
Re: HOW DO I BECOME AN INDEPENDENT ABSTRACTOR? - Samson Ugorji/MD
7/20/2009 3:03:11 AM (4471 views)

Dishonest abstractor? - Ryan Thorpe/NY
6/18/2009 4:38:53 PM (4527 views)
Re: Dishonest abstractor? - Jessica Talley/NJ
6/18/2009 5:02:13 PM (4942 views)
Re: Dishonest abstractor? - george Hubka/MI
6/18/2009 8:44:40 PM (4753 views)
Re: Dishonest abstractor? - Anita Backlund/MN
6/19/2009 7:09:45 PM (4629 views)
Re: Dishonest abstractor? - Alan Roides/NY
6/19/2009 9:16:20 AM (4765 views)
Re: Dishonest abstractor? - george Hubka/MI
6/19/2009 7:54:49 PM (4528 views)

Warning Abstractor E & O fraud - Becky Kale/IL
6/16/2009 12:59:37 PM (4200 views)
Re: Warning Abstractor E & O fraud - Constance Foye/VA
6/17/2009 2:27:36 PM (4325 views)
Re: Warning Abstractor E & O fraud - Becky Kale/IL
6/17/2009 5:03:20 PM (4333 views)

interstate - Kelli Quade/MO
6/15/2009 4:46:49 PM (3469 views)
Re: interstate - Gayla Sparks/MO
7/14/2009 2:31:57 PM (4116 views)




CT process servers make millions - Dave Pell/GA
6/12/2009 5:24:46 PM (5430 views)
Re: CT process servers make millions - Robert Franco/OH
6/13/2009 9:21:20 AM (4491 views)
Re: CT process servers make millions - george Hubka/MI
6/14/2009 10:11:31 PM (4367 views)

NPR Services - DOES NOT PAY - P Parrish/AL
6/11/2009 6:56:54 PM (3909 views)
Re: NPR Services - DOES NOT PAY - Nils Nelson/ME
6/11/2009 8:26:33 PM (4450 views)
Re: NPR Services - DOES NOT PAY - george Hubka/MI
6/12/2009 5:46:17 AM (4465 views)
Re: NPR Services - DOES NOT PAY - Jason Knowles/AL
6/12/2009 8:49:41 AM (4491 views)
Re: NPR Services - DOES NOT PAY - Martha  Lemoine/LA
9/23/2009 11:13:51 AM (3861 views)

What kind of Abstractor would.... - Tempie Elder/TX
6/11/2009 6:02:56 PM (4368 views)
Re: What kind of Abstractor would.... - Jessica Talley/NJ
6/11/2009 8:57:24 PM (4648 views)
Re: What kind of Abstractor would.... - Patrick Scott/IL
6/12/2009 12:20:47 AM (6409 views)
Re: What kind of Abstractor would.... - Kelly Schuler/TX
6/15/2009 9:44:28 AM (4295 views)
Re: What kind of Abstractor would.... - William Pattison /CA
6/15/2009 12:01:38 PM (4299 views)

Reverse ValuNet - Abstractor Style - Scott Aduddell/MO
6/11/2009 10:03:01 AM (3587 views)
Re: Reverse ValuNet - Abstractor Style - george Hubka/MI
6/11/2009 1:15:27 PM (4233 views)
Re: Reverse ValuNet - Abstractor Style - John Dokes/PA
6/12/2009 9:38:27 AM (4307 views)

Jade Data Research, Inc. - Edward Huguenin/SC
6/10/2009 10:58:48 PM (3055 views)

Slow Pay?? - Ellen Maher/MI
6/10/2009 2:28:38 PM (3677 views)
Re: Slow Pay?? - Patrick Scott/IL
6/10/2009 5:29:17 PM (4655 views)
Re: Slow Pay?? - Jean Allen/NC
6/10/2009 9:02:28 PM (4425 views)

allowable seller contributions from "any loan" - cynthia heed/TX
6/9/2009 10:52:34 PM (3219 views)
Re: allowable seller contributions from "any loan" - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2009 12:00:14 AM (4274 views)
Re: allowable seller contributions from "any loan" - cynthia heed/TX
6/10/2009 2:21:08 PM (4131 views)
Re: allowable seller contributions from "any loan" - Diane Cipa/PA
6/12/2009 5:09:59 PM (4170 views)

Order Tracking and Turn Time Software - Justin Rhoades/NE
6/9/2009 2:38:22 PM (3773 views)
Re: Order Tracking and Turn Time Software - William Pattison /CA
7/20/2009 4:49:52 PM (4161 views)

The Other Shoe Has Yet To Drop - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
6/8/2009 9:19:28 PM (4706 views)
Re: The Other Shoe Has Yet To Drop - William Pattison /CA
7/20/2009 4:57:17 PM (3973 views)

Multiple Choice... - Robert Franco/OH
6/8/2009 10:51:53 AM (5149 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Dorothy Payne/NY
6/8/2009 11:34:47 AM (4460 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Dave Pell/GA
6/8/2009 12:07:25 PM (4263 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Karen Hurley/KY
6/8/2009 2:48:08 PM (4228 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Dave Pell/GA
6/8/2009 3:35:38 PM (4144 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Robert Franco/OH
6/8/2009 3:40:19 PM (4170 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Patrick Scott/IL
6/8/2009 5:01:56 PM (4280 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - James "Lin" Toney, Jr,/MS
6/8/2009 5:55:04 PM (4260 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Jessica Talley/NJ
6/8/2009 7:22:12 PM (4146 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - J. H./OH
6/8/2009 9:34:39 PM (4102 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Karen Hurley/KY
6/9/2009 12:38:54 AM (4071 views)
And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/9/2009 10:30:39 AM (4180 views)

"C, The bank is entitled to $30,000, the financing company is entitled to $20,000, and the driver is entitled to the remaining $40,000."  J.H. got the answer right, with the correct explanation.

Like most of you, I also selected "A."  In the real world, the plaintiff in the foreclosure would serve everyone with an interest in the property, which would seem to include cyclist.  Cyclist is going to file an answer claiming the first and best lien, and cyclist would get paid first.  I think that is assuming more facts than they gave us, however.

Like, J.H. said, the problem specifically mentions that bank joined the financing company in the suit, but it did not mention cyclist at all in this regard.  Thus, as a non-party to the foreclosure, cyclists lien would be undisturbed and the buyer at the sheriff's sale will take subject to it. 

Here is the rule that they want us to learn, and what they are attempting to test with this question:

Foreclosure destroys all interests junior to the mortgage being foreclosed and does not affect any interest senior to the mortgage being foreclosed.

I just don't like this rule... at least the way it is phrased.  Rather, I think that it depends more on whether the party was joined in the suit than whether the lien is junior or senior.  However, perhaps the correct distinction is that if cyclist were made a party, he would answer and request that his lien be foreclosed on first, then the rule would make sense.

I still don't like the outcome... the cyclist with the first lien here was not served with notice of the suit and he could have been paid in full.  Worse, the driver walked away with $40,000.  But, cyclist would still be able to try to recover from driver or foreclose on the new owner if he doesn't pay up.

Thanks, everyone, for the great discussion.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: And, the correct answer is... - Dave Pell/GA
6/9/2009 11:59:48 AM (4071 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/9/2009 12:27:25 PM (4165 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - george Hubka/MI
6/9/2009 9:12:28 PM (4040 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Patrick Scott/IL
6/9/2009 11:12:06 PM (4022 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2009 11:04:32 AM (3996 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2009 10:59:52 AM (4049 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - george Hubka/MI
6/10/2009 11:07:37 AM (3947 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2009 11:32:25 AM (3924 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Karen Hurley/KY
6/10/2009 2:29:06 PM (4015 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - J. H./OH
6/10/2009 3:48:54 PM (4020 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Cyril Gonzales, III/LA
6/15/2009 12:43:18 PM (3879 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/15/2009 1:08:57 PM (3979 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Dave Pell/GA
6/15/2009 4:40:21 PM (4106 views)


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