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Jade Data Research, Inc. - Edward Huguenin/SC
6/10/2009 10:58:48 PM (2975 views)

Slow Pay?? - Ellen Maher/MI
6/10/2009 2:28:38 PM (3603 views)
Re: Slow Pay?? - Patrick Scott/IL
6/10/2009 5:29:17 PM (4344 views)
Re: Slow Pay?? - Jean Allen/NC
6/10/2009 9:02:28 PM (4130 views)

allowable seller contributions from "any loan" - cynthia heed/TX
6/9/2009 10:52:34 PM (3146 views)
Re: allowable seller contributions from "any loan" - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2009 12:00:14 AM (3973 views)
Re: allowable seller contributions from "any loan" - cynthia heed/TX
6/10/2009 2:21:08 PM (3868 views)
Re: allowable seller contributions from "any loan" - Diane Cipa/PA
6/12/2009 5:09:59 PM (3936 views)

Order Tracking and Turn Time Software - Justin Rhoades/NE
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Re: Order Tracking and Turn Time Software - William Pattison /CA
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The Other Shoe Has Yet To Drop - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
6/8/2009 9:19:28 PM (4625 views)
Re: The Other Shoe Has Yet To Drop - William Pattison /CA
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Multiple Choice... - Robert Franco/OH
6/8/2009 10:51:53 AM (5051 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Dorothy Payne/NY
6/8/2009 11:34:47 AM (4186 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Dave Pell/GA
6/8/2009 12:07:25 PM (4017 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Karen Hurley/KY
6/8/2009 2:48:08 PM (3987 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Dave Pell/GA
6/8/2009 3:35:38 PM (3898 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Robert Franco/OH
6/8/2009 3:40:19 PM (3936 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Patrick Scott/IL
6/8/2009 5:01:56 PM (4021 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - James "Lin" Toney, Jr,/MS
6/8/2009 5:55:04 PM (3996 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Jessica Talley/NJ
6/8/2009 7:22:12 PM (3888 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - J. H./OH
6/8/2009 9:34:39 PM (3852 views)
Re: Multiple Choice... - Karen Hurley/KY
6/9/2009 12:38:54 AM (3809 views)
And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/9/2009 10:30:39 AM (3919 views)

"C, The bank is entitled to $30,000, the financing company is entitled to $20,000, and the driver is entitled to the remaining $40,000."  J.H. got the answer right, with the correct explanation.

Like most of you, I also selected "A."  In the real world, the plaintiff in the foreclosure would serve everyone with an interest in the property, which would seem to include cyclist.  Cyclist is going to file an answer claiming the first and best lien, and cyclist would get paid first.  I think that is assuming more facts than they gave us, however.

Like, J.H. said, the problem specifically mentions that bank joined the financing company in the suit, but it did not mention cyclist at all in this regard.  Thus, as a non-party to the foreclosure, cyclists lien would be undisturbed and the buyer at the sheriff's sale will take subject to it. 

Here is the rule that they want us to learn, and what they are attempting to test with this question:

Foreclosure destroys all interests junior to the mortgage being foreclosed and does not affect any interest senior to the mortgage being foreclosed.

I just don't like this rule... at least the way it is phrased.  Rather, I think that it depends more on whether the party was joined in the suit than whether the lien is junior or senior.  However, perhaps the correct distinction is that if cyclist were made a party, he would answer and request that his lien be foreclosed on first, then the rule would make sense.

I still don't like the outcome... the cyclist with the first lien here was not served with notice of the suit and he could have been paid in full.  Worse, the driver walked away with $40,000.  But, cyclist would still be able to try to recover from driver or foreclose on the new owner if he doesn't pay up.

Thanks, everyone, for the great discussion.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: And, the correct answer is... - Dave Pell/GA
6/9/2009 11:59:48 AM (3828 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/9/2009 12:27:25 PM (3894 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - george Hubka/MI
6/9/2009 9:12:28 PM (3798 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Patrick Scott/IL
6/9/2009 11:12:06 PM (3775 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2009 11:04:32 AM (3759 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2009 10:59:52 AM (3800 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - george Hubka/MI
6/10/2009 11:07:37 AM (3692 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/10/2009 11:32:25 AM (3701 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Karen Hurley/KY
6/10/2009 2:29:06 PM (3760 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - J. H./OH
6/10/2009 3:48:54 PM (3782 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Cyril Gonzales, III/LA
6/15/2009 12:43:18 PM (3640 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Robert Franco/OH
6/15/2009 1:08:57 PM (3731 views)
Re: And, the correct answer is... - Dave Pell/GA
6/15/2009 4:40:21 PM (3873 views)

Michigan Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
6/6/2009 4:00:49 PM (3595 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/6/2009 6:37:24 PM (4034 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
6/7/2009 5:27:42 PM (3940 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/7/2009 9:35:45 PM (3992 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - george Hubka/MI
6/8/2009 12:14:10 PM (3952 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
6/8/2009 1:01:48 PM (3924 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Joyce Harper/OH
6/8/2009 6:55:42 PM (3894 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - george Hubka/MI
6/9/2009 9:19:13 PM (3932 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ron McPherson/IA
6/11/2009 3:50:31 AM (3867 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
6/11/2009 9:13:16 AM (3898 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
6/11/2009 12:40:22 PM (3788 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - george Hubka/MI
6/11/2009 1:11:52 PM (3744 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
6/11/2009 1:21:50 PM (3773 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Dan Zook/NY
6/11/2009 1:58:55 PM (3657 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
6/11/2009 1:23:53 PM (3716 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - george Hubka/MI
6/11/2009 1:14:01 PM (3735 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
6/11/2009 8:52:14 PM (3789 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
6/12/2009 8:24:51 AM (3863 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/12/2009 8:41:26 AM (3778 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
6/12/2009 10:04:01 AM (3686 views)
Re:Any state Pre Foreclosure Fees - Cyril Gonzales, III/LA
6/15/2009 12:50:45 PM (3503 views)

Verification Bureau - Donna Stovall/NY
6/5/2009 3:07:04 PM (3084 views)
Re: Verification Bureau - Laurie Puckett/TN
6/15/2009 4:34:17 PM (3300 views)
Re: Verification Bureau - george Hubka/MI
6/15/2009 4:55:12 PM (3356 views)

Prferred Document - No Pay Company - Mary Buchanan/IN
6/2/2009 10:28:09 AM (3255 views)
Re: Prferred Document - No Pay Company - Constance Foye/VA
12/15/2009 11:59:55 AM (3425 views)

Equity National/ ValuNet - Joanie Hahr/VT
6/1/2009 9:26:19 PM (3925 views)
Re: Equity National/ ValuNet - Patrick Scott/IL
6/1/2009 10:58:45 PM (4096 views)
Re: Equity National/ ValuNet - Constance Foye/VA
6/2/2009 4:40:10 PM (4002 views)
Re: Equity National/ ValuNet - Joanie Hahr/VT
6/3/2009 12:04:57 PM (3838 views)
Re: Equity National/ ValuNet - John Dokes/PA
6/12/2009 9:43:48 AM (4307 views)
Re: Equity National/ ValuNet - Jessica Talley/NJ
6/12/2009 12:54:44 PM (3648 views)

$1900.00 to file a foreclosure in Florida - Dave Pell/GA
6/1/2009 11:58:55 AM (4068 views)

Title Companies - Eric Mattson/WV
6/1/2009 3:34:30 AM (3547 views)
Re: Title Companies - martha campbell/VA
6/1/2009 7:05:27 AM (4005 views)
Re: Title Companies - Eric Mattson/WV
6/3/2009 11:32:31 AM (3590 views)

FULL 40 year searches $? - K.C./CA
5/28/2009 6:55:00 PM (3632 views)
Re: FULL 40 year searches $? - William Case/TN
5/29/2009 7:58:27 AM (3992 views)
Re: FULL 40 year searches $? - Deborah Manion/VA
5/29/2009 3:56:39 PM (3961 views)
Re: FULL 40 year searches $? - Lucille Femine/NJ
5/29/2009 7:23:29 PM (4040 views)
Re: FULL 40 year searches $? - Alix Ott/MI
6/1/2009 8:30:50 AM (3898 views)
Re: FULL 40 year searches $? - William Pattison /CA
6/1/2009 10:13:55 AM (3911 views)

Question to MI abstractors - Alix Ott/MI
5/28/2009 5:20:21 PM (3403 views)
Re: Question to MI abstractors - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/29/2009 9:32:24 AM (3669 views)
Re: Question to MI abstractors - Alix Ott/MI
6/1/2009 8:22:54 AM (3719 views)

Leigh Rampey, Owner of Back Forty Abstracts, LLC - Edward Huguenin/SC
5/27/2009 6:46:37 AM (3634 views)


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