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E & O insurance - Stephen Heidorn/NY
1/6/2010 10:32:28 AM (5612 views)
Re: E & O insurance - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2010 2:57:03 PM (4546 views)
Re: E & O insurance - KRISTINE BJORGE/OR
1/6/2010 5:55:00 PM (4565 views)
Re: E & O insurance - Jean Allen/NC
1/6/2010 8:16:38 PM (4682 views)
Re: E & O insurance - Robert Franco/OH
1/7/2010 9:35:22 AM (4583 views)
Re: E & O insurance - Richard Olson/MD
1/7/2010 9:52:38 AM (4529 views)
Re: E & O insurance - researcher ./VA
1/8/2010 9:37:35 AM (4523 views)
Re: E & O insurance - Robert Franco/OH
1/8/2010 11:00:26 AM (4990 views)
Re: E & O insurance - Abstractor/IL
1/10/2010 6:13:17 PM (4486 views)
Re: E & O insurance - Cheryl Rorick Sullivan/MI
1/11/2010 7:43:15 AM (4470 views)
Re: E & O insurance - Stephen Heidorn/NY
1/11/2010 10:03:02 AM (4337 views)
Re: E & O insurance - K C/NJ
1/11/2010 1:35:28 PM (4395 views)
Re: E & O insurance - HOPE DEZERN/SC
1/19/2010 11:44:16 AM (4257 views)
Re: E & O insurance - Virginia Bryant/TX
1/19/2010 12:53:01 PM (4255 views)
Re: E & O insurance - John Brewer/VA
1/19/2010 4:27:27 PM (4290 views)
Re: E & O insurance - Glenda Hodge/TN
1/23/2010 9:54:43 PM (4264 views)

E-Fax Service OneSuite NONONO! - K Carnation/NJ
1/5/2010 2:33:45 PM (4183 views)
Re: E-Fax Service OneSuite NONONO! - Edward Huguenin/SC
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Re: E-Fax Service OneSuite NONONO! - Helene /GA
1/5/2010 9:34:40 PM (6372 views)
Re: E-Fax Service OneSuite NONONO! - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: E-Fax Service OneSuite NONONO! - Monica Froese/ME
1/5/2010 10:01:02 PM (4312 views)
Re: E-Fax Service OneSuite NONONO! - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2010 9:53:50 AM (4431 views)
Re: E-Fax Service OneSuite NONONO! - Scott Perry/PA
1/6/2010 11:49:44 AM (4418 views)
Re: E-Fax Service OneSuite NONONO! - Heather Seymour/IN
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Re: E-Fax Service OneSuite NONONO! - Zee Ty/CA
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Re: E-Fax Service OneSuite NONONO! - K C/NJ
1/11/2010 1:09:51 PM (4352 views)
Re: E-Fax Service OneSuite NONONO! - Zee Ty/CA
1/13/2010 1:23:29 AM (4126 views)
Re: E-Fax Service OneSuite NONONO! - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
1/23/2010 9:44:44 AM (4015 views)
Re: E-Fax Service OneSuite NONONO! - Scott Perry/PA
1/23/2010 3:25:11 PM (4096 views)
Re: E-Fax Service OneSuite NONONO! - george Hubka/MI
1/23/2010 3:43:22 PM (4184 views)
Re: E-Fax Service OneSuite NONONO! - Scott Perry/PA
1/23/2010 11:48:12 PM (4216 views)
Re: E-Fax Service OneSuite NONONO! - george Hubka/MI
1/24/2010 1:32:39 PM (4269 views)

Title Insurance Agent - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
1/5/2010 11:42:56 AM (3487 views)
Re: Title Insurance Agent - Robert Franco/OH
1/5/2010 1:51:14 PM (4276 views)

Preferred Choice Title- Cornelius, NC - Jean Allen/NC
1/4/2010 5:49:04 PM (4770 views)
Re: Preferred Choice Title- Cornelius, NC - DANA HOOVER/AR
1/5/2010 2:03:51 PM (4244 views)
Re: Preferred Choice Title- Cornelius, NC - Eric/NC
1/11/2010 10:08:44 AM (4247 views)
Re: Preferred Choice Title- Cornelius, NC - Jean Allen/NC
1/12/2010 9:38:35 AM (4278 views)
Re: Preferred Choice Title- Cornelius, NC - Jeffrey Wright/NC
1/13/2010 1:09:40 PM (4620 views)

US Title Corp - Virginia Capps/TN
1/4/2010 4:48:37 PM (4102 views)
Re: US Title Corp - Jamie Stallings/TN
1/4/2010 8:01:48 PM (4128 views)
Re: US Title Corp - Louise Jackson/SC
1/12/2010 3:27:28 PM (4058 views)
Re: US Title Corp - Virginia Capps/TN
1/13/2010 10:49:24 PM (4010 views)
Re: US Title Corp - Louise Jackson/SC
1/14/2010 8:22:34 AM (4157 views)
Re: US Title Corp - Virginia Capps/TN
1/17/2010 6:47:09 PM (4061 views)




The Swiss Example - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/4/2010 9:15:51 AM (3612 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Robert Franco/OH
1/4/2010 9:59:03 AM (3701 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/4/2010 11:16:58 AM (3768 views)

I would have to disagree you in a number of respects. The insurance companies have a rather large number of other products to market in addition to health insurance...casualty, e&o, Life , auto, etc. They already make massive profits as is exemplified by the size of the bonuses paid to their executives. They are very creative in coming up with ways to make a profit...much as are the credit card companies in creating new fees  in response to the change in their regulation...my favorite was a new fee to be charged for not using the credit card.

The only price control that I have heard built into the Senate bill is a 20% limitation on profit without any ceiling on premium. It leaves the insurance industry free to raise premiums at their discretion to maximize the 20% profit. At the same time the Senate bill will now require approximately 34,000,000 people to acquire health insurance with no ceiling on cost.

An analogy might be drawn to worker's comp insurance. It is an insurance that the insurance companies are required to provide, but not a money maker for them. I remember taking a deposition of an insurance agent several years ago, and hearing him complain to this. Somehow the insurance industry seems to have muddled through.

I do agree that some attention should be focused on the medical field requiring them to hold costs down...another shortcoming of the Senate bill. However, let us not forget that the insurance and pharmaceutical industries have amassed fortunes at the expense of ill American citizens.

England, Canada, Japan, Switzerland and Scandinavia all have systems that work. Our current system simply exploits the human condition for profit to be made by the insurance and pharmaceutical industries.

I have posted about the Medicare Part B fiasco before, but perhaps it bears repeating. When the vote was to be made the lobbyists for the pharmaceutical industry went into overdrive. One congressman was getting ready to retire, and his son wanted to run for his seat. He was told that if he did not vote for the bill his son would not get the party nomination. Other sponsors of the bill went on to take lucrative jobs with the pharmaceutical industry after they left office. One of them was interviewed on 60 Minutes. When he was asked about this he came up with a rather lame explanation. He said that he felt a moral obligation to the pharmaceutical firm because it produced a drug that cured him of cancer. His huge annual salary played no part in his decision. I have a bit of difficulty in believing that.

Then there is the famous "donut hole". The bill provided for insurance coverage of the first $5,000 of prescription drug coverage for each year. After that the insured is required to cover the rest until the end of the year. I was standing in line at a pharmacy when I saw how this worked. The woman in front of me had exhausted her Donut Hole coverage, and could not afford to pay for her prescription. God only knows what becomes of cancer patients whose chemo therapy runs $20,000 per month.

Last of all let us not forget the prohibition built into the bill which prohibited Medicare from using using its superior buying power to negotiate lower prices for prescription drugs in the same manner as the Veteran's Association. When the prices paid by both systems were compared the difference was incredible.

Then we have the FDA's cozy association with the pharmaceutical industry. The pharmaceutical industry discovered that it was losing money when American citizens purchased their prescriptions on line from lower priced Canadian pharmacies. The pharmaceutical industry threatened to boycott the Canadian pharmacies. The FDA immediately jumped in to prohibit the practice because it allegedly would be too difficult to verify the quality of the prescriptions and regulate the practice. They were the same drugs produced by the same pharmaceutical firms in the U S....but at lower prices because Canada has price controls.

So, you will have to excuse my lack of concern for the lost profits of the insurance/pharmaceutical complex. I am more concerned with the quality of life than some insurance executive getting his $1,000,000 year end bonus.

 

You will have to excuse my lack of concern for the Insurance

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Re: The Swiss Example - Robert Franco/OH
1/4/2010 11:56:25 AM (3521 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/4/2010 12:17:08 PM (3663 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - george Hubka/MI
1/4/2010 12:21:17 PM (3586 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/4/2010 2:00:08 PM (3502 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Scott Perry/PA
1/4/2010 2:39:20 PM (3571 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/4/2010 4:04:13 PM (3476 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Scott Perry/PA
1/4/2010 4:49:16 PM (3795 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/4/2010 5:12:04 PM (3508 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Scott Perry/PA
1/4/2010 5:15:29 PM (3431 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Scott Perry/PA
1/5/2010 12:15:53 AM (3494 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - george Hubka/MI
1/4/2010 11:59:21 PM (3474 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/6/2010 3:26:16 PM (3522 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Scott Perry/PA
1/6/2010 11:32:26 AM (3582 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2010 2:54:45 PM (3667 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: The Swiss Example - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2010 4:36:27 PM (3574 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Scott Perry/PA
1/6/2010 8:14:09 PM (3582 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Robert Franco/OH
1/7/2010 9:30:57 AM (3514 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Scott Perry/PA
1/7/2010 9:08:10 AM (3521 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Robert Franco/OH
1/7/2010 9:32:32 AM (3466 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Scott Perry/PA
1/7/2010 9:01:34 PM (3468 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Slade Smith/OH
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Re: The Swiss Example - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: The Swiss Example - Robert Franco/OH
1/8/2010 11:09:47 AM (3512 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/8/2010 6:11:54 PM (3550 views)
Re: Links to Doug's Referenced Articles - Robert Franco/OH
1/8/2010 7:41:38 PM (5417 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Douglas Gallant/OH
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Re: The Swiss Example - Carl Litchfield/SC
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Re: The Swiss Example - george Hubka/MI
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Re: The Swiss Example - Robert Franco/OH
1/4/2010 12:57:36 PM (3507 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/4/2010 1:21:26 PM (3546 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - george Hubka/MI
1/4/2010 11:47:48 PM (3358 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/4/2010 1:18:53 PM (5521 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Carl Litchfield/SC
1/4/2010 7:45:16 PM (3337 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/5/2010 6:16:33 AM (3603 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Scott Perry/PA
1/5/2010 9:08:44 AM (3383 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/5/2010 10:27:58 AM (3296 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Scott Perry/PA
1/5/2010 11:38:58 AM (3555 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/5/2010 12:13:24 PM (3346 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Scott Perry/PA
1/5/2010 12:31:56 PM (3498 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/5/2010 2:58:54 PM (3507 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Robert Franco/OH
1/5/2010 2:02:10 PM (3394 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Scott Perry/PA
1/5/2010 2:21:12 PM (3425 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Slade Smith/OH
1/6/2010 4:13:50 PM (3447 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Slade Smith/OH
1/4/2010 1:26:23 PM (3524 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Carl Litchfield/SC
1/4/2010 7:49:41 PM (3162 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Slade Smith/OH
1/5/2010 1:30:35 AM (3236 views)
Re: The Swiss Example - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: The Swiss Example - Slade Smith/OH
1/5/2010 9:29:30 AM (4095 views)

Title Stream bankruptcy - Richard Schwartz/MO
1/3/2010 12:58:27 AM (4695 views)
Re: Title Stream bankruptcy - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Title Stream bankruptcy - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
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Re: Title Stream bankruptcy - John Brewer/VA
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Re: Title Stream bankruptcy - Mclucas/TX
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Re: Title Stream bankruptcy - REGINA PHALANGE/NE
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FSE Companies - Richard Schwartz/MO
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Re: FSE Companies - Clanci Nelson/OH
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I Need Mineral Interest Search Training!!! - Lyndsey Mullins/GA
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NATIONAL REAL ESTATE INFO SVS, PA - researcher ./VA
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Full title search--Canadian style - Monica Froese/ME
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Re: Full title search--Canadian style - SM/IL
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Re: Full title search--Canadian style - Robert Franco/OH
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CT Abstractors should ban together.... - JACQUELINE POLVERARI/CT
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Re: CT Abstractors should ban together.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
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CT Abstractors - not my battle, but ... - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
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Re: CT Abstractors should ban together.... - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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Re: CT Abstractors should ban together.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: CT Abstractors should ban together.... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: CT Abstractors should ban together.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: CT Abstractors should ban together.... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: CT Abstractors should ban together.... - William Anderson/CA
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Merry Chrismas to all... - Robert Franco/OH
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Do you think? - Nils Nelson/ME
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Re: Do you think? - K/NJ
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Re: Do you think? - Nils Nelson/ME
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Re: Do you think? - K/NJ
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Re: Do you think? - Nils Nelson/ME
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Source Documents & Information - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Source Documents & Information - P Parrish/AL
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Re: Source Documents & Information - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Source Documents & Information - J Nisonger/CA
1/5/2010 9:50:11 PM (4090 views)
Re: Source Documents & Information - Amy Jensen/OR
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Re: Source Documents & Information - Kenneth Signor/SC
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Re: Source Documents & Information - Celia Franklin/GA
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Re: Source Documents & Information - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/21/2009 11:49:38 AM (4448 views)
Re: Source Documents & Information - mike skene/CA
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