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Poppe Mortgage - Shannon Heath/LA
4/19/2010 10:39:07 AM (4585 views)
Re: Poppe Mortgage - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: Poppe Mortgage - Margie Allen/TX
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Re: Poppe Mortgage - Shona Dunning/WY
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Re: Poppe Mortgage - J Nisonger/CA
4/21/2010 4:12:09 AM (3130 views)
Re: Poppe Mortgage - Kenneth Signor/SC
4/26/2010 10:34:24 AM (3273 views)
Re: Poppe Mortgage - Jessica Talley/NJ
4/26/2010 11:51:22 AM (3298 views)

Mission Viejo Title - John Fernands/NH
4/14/2010 4:39:59 PM (3558 views)
Abstractors A Go Go, LLC. - Eric S/NY
4/15/2010 1:26:44 PM (3322 views)

Reliable Docs - Len Bianco/TX
4/13/2010 11:03:22 AM (4079 views)
Re: Reliable Docs - Amy Jensen/OR
4/13/2010 11:55:00 AM (3632 views)
Re: Reliable Docs - Dan Zook/NY
4/13/2010 1:37:47 PM (3666 views)
Re: Reliable Docs - Michael Vernon/AZ
4/19/2010 3:14:46 AM (3528 views)
Re: Reliable Docs - Alix Ott/MI
4/19/2010 6:52:20 AM (3617 views)

Taxes for info purposes only - john rutledge/VA
4/12/2010 9:39:07 AM (3856 views)
Re: Taxes for info purposes only - Robert Franco/OH
4/12/2010 9:45:17 AM (3679 views)
Re: Taxes for info purposes only - William Pattison /CA
4/12/2010 12:06:36 PM (3514 views)
Re: Taxes for info purposes only - K C/NJ
4/12/2010 8:47:31 PM (3403 views)
Re: Taxes for info purposes only - Justin Shepard/VA
4/12/2010 11:01:44 PM (3495 views)
Re: Taxes for info purposes only - Leigh Attridge/MA
4/13/2010 7:30:24 AM (3407 views)

JMC Title Agency/Knoxville TN & New York? - Jean Allen/NC
4/11/2010 9:32:55 AM (5457 views)
Re: JMC Title Agency/Knoxville TN & New York? - Nils Nelson/ME
4/11/2010 5:28:16 PM (4124 views)
Re: JMC Title Agency/Knoxville TN & New York? - Hillary Bendle/TN
4/12/2010 8:40:48 AM (3843 views)
Re: JMC Title Agency/Knoxville TN & New York? - Matthew DeLand/NY
4/26/2010 10:30:52 AM (3601 views)
Re: JMC Title Agency/Knoxville TN & New York? - Josh Lowe/TN
4/27/2010 12:04:31 PM (4202 views)
Re: JMC Title Agency/Knoxville TN & New York? - Josh Lowe/TN
4/27/2010 12:06:22 PM (3521 views)
Re: JMC Title Agency/Knoxville TN & New York? - Katrina Chambers/AR
5/3/2010 10:34:12 AM (3483 views)
Re: JMC Title Agency/Knoxville TN & New York? - Jean Allen/NC
5/3/2010 11:38:45 AM (4310 views)
Re: JMC Title Agency/Knoxville TN & New York? - Jean Allen/NC
5/6/2010 7:31:57 PM (3582 views)
Re: JMC Title Agency/Knoxville TN & New York? - Josh Lowe/TN
5/11/2010 4:42:45 PM (3477 views)
Re: JMC Title Agency/Knoxville TN & New York? - Nils Nelson/ME
5/11/2010 5:01:45 PM (3360 views)




Synergy Title - Mark Pierson/FL
4/9/2010 12:43:28 PM (3899 views)
Re: Synergy Title - Abstractor/WI
4/11/2010 8:14:02 PM (3481 views)
Re: Synergy Title - george Hubka/MI
4/11/2010 10:14:51 PM (3511 views)
Re: Synergy Title - Mark Pierson/FL
4/12/2010 7:41:00 AM (3518 views)

Online Title Abstracting Courses - James McManus/IN
4/9/2010 11:14:18 AM (3929 views)
Re: Online Title Abstracting Courses - K C/NJ
4/9/2010 11:48:02 AM (3793 views)
Re: Online Title Abstracting Courses - James McManus/IN
4/9/2010 4:25:06 PM (3789 views)
Re: Online Title Abstracting Courses - Diane Brewer/SC
4/12/2010 9:24:57 AM (3742 views)
Re: Online Title Abstracting Courses - Teri Carro/FL
4/12/2010 10:41:52 AM (4051 views)
Re: Online Title Abstracting Courses - Robert Franco/OH
4/12/2010 10:52:57 AM (4230 views)
Re: Online Title Abstracting Courses - Jim McManus/IN
4/12/2010 7:19:25 PM (3693 views)
Re: Online Title Abstracting Courses - Jim McManus/IN
4/14/2010 12:38:33 PM (5079 views)
Re: Online Title Abstracting Courses - Jeanine Johnson/FL
4/15/2010 4:52:36 PM (6022 views)
Re: Online Title Abstracting Courses - Jim McManus/IN
4/16/2010 3:24:42 PM (3799 views)
Re: Online Title Abstracting Courses - Jeanine Johnson/FL
5/14/2010 12:59:59 PM (4006 views)
Re: Online Title Abstracting Courses - charles jetter/OH
4/21/2010 2:43:46 PM (4086 views)

Abstractors A Go Go, LLC is a No No!! - Eric S./NY
4/8/2010 7:55:07 PM (7383 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go, LLC is a No No!! - Sheila Sten/PA
4/8/2010 9:18:12 PM (4344 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go, LLC is a No No!! - Eric S/NY
4/14/2010 4:58:01 PM (3815 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go, LLC is a No No!! - Jerry Morgan/VA
6/1/2011 11:14:59 PM (3167 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go, LLC is a No No!! - REBECCA RIZZONELLI/PA
6/19/2013 1:11:19 PM (2035 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go, LLC is a No No!! - K C/NJ
4/9/2010 11:06:19 AM (4006 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go, LLC is a No No!! - Ken Ungarsohn/NJ
4/9/2010 12:53:11 PM (4579 views)
What about Charles ? - george Hubka/MI
4/9/2010 11:56:41 PM (3885 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go, LLC is a No No!! - Eric S/NY
4/14/2010 4:49:17 PM (4062 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go, LLC is a No No!! - Robert Alvey/VA
9/24/2010 8:49:53 AM (3265 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go, LLC is a No No!! - charles jetter/OH
4/9/2010 8:45:57 PM (3889 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go, LLC is a No No!! - john rutledge/VA
4/12/2010 9:09:35 AM (3923 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go, LLC is a No No!! - Robert Franco/OH
4/12/2010 9:27:56 AM (3906 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go, LLC is a No No!! - K C/NJ
4/12/2010 7:50:17 PM (3836 views)

I'd like to say that not all middle-men companies are the same.  Lumping us all in with someone whose business practices are questionable isn't fair to companies like ours, Wanda's and others who respect the work you do and actually understand various facets of the industry because of their own experience - AND WHO PAY YOU.  

I'm sure you're all aware there are independents who are not like you who go MIA, who have no experience, don't respect that we're accountable to our clients., don't read one bit of the order.  It wouldn't be fair of me to put you all in the same category.

I personally find it loathesome to ask someone to reduce their livelihood in order to increase my income -  not to mention it's an uncomfortable call to make.  We don't ask independents to reduce their prices when we're expanding our coverage - we ask what they charge;  however if they're pricing themselves out of their local competition and we get the call later asking why we haven't sent anything, I'll be truthful -  then it's their choice what they want to charge.  We work something out or part congenially. This isn't to say we always work with the cheapest person in a county - you pay for experience and knowledge in most cases.  Being easy to work with and being friendly and accommodating (and accessible) go a long way too.  Asking someone to be the cheapest isn't going to get your orders prioritized.  Not paying your searchers is not going to have that effect either.  We have loyalty to many abstractors even if we get offers of lower pricing.  Just because we are the same types of businesses doesn't mean you're dealing with the same types of people... and this business is still about people!

Your insinuation that the middle-men do nothing is not accurate. Do we need you?  Of course.  Can you live without us, sure but you may be cheating yourself of the relationships we've spent the time, technology and money to build with nationwide companies who don't want to find each of you themselves and who still prefer to work with American companies.  They don't want to have to deal with sending out 400 $40 checks each month, they don't want the headache of remembering who does which county, having to pore over SOT listings and if it's a remote county, trying to hunt down someone at the courthouse. They can call us, or Wanda, or Anthony or whomever it is they deal with and they know who they're talking to immediately.  The middle-men have spent the time making the 1000's of calls to find the right people in the counties.  And if they're smart they have researched and found the clients they CHOOSE to work with rather than take every offer dangled in front of them only to find later they're never going to be paid. 

The in-between has a unique perspective and some of you disparage us the way you do the big national guys and I usually silently look on and occassionally laugh when I see a thread that starts this way.  We certainly don't set the prices and I know I personally can't tell a multi-million dollar title company I want to be paid on MY schedule. To the big guys, we're just as pipsqueak as you. Sure, they must respect we need to be paid and to honor the general 30-60 day time frame but I can't demand they pay in a week.

To some of you, we're all about lining our pockets for doing nothing and for some, that certainly seems to be revealing itself.  For others here, you've seen the value of working with the Tweeners.   Being in the middle is chaotic and the crap rolls up and down in each direction - toward US in the middle.  We try to keep a happy medium.  Some days this office is like Boiler Room.  All day we're fielding calls, following up, doing oddball 'favors' for clients, researching things above and beyond the norm all across the country, retyping the reports that look like a 3rd grader wrote them .   Being the middle-man is not all bad by any means and can be fun but you certainly have to be able to engage with both independents, clients and maintain a sense of humor above all. 

Just please don't throw us all on the fire because of a few bad ones out there.

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Re: Abstractors A Go Go, LLC is a No No!! - Alix Ott/MI
4/19/2010 7:03:31 AM (3759 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go, LLC is a No No!! - Robert Franco/OH
4/20/2010 9:48:22 AM (3600 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go, LLC is a No No!! - Eric S/NY
4/14/2010 4:53:40 PM (3800 views)

Cybersecurity Act - Amy Jensen/OR
4/8/2010 3:29:03 PM (3375 views)
Re: Cybersecurity Act - William Pattison /CA
4/12/2010 12:14:10 PM (3203 views)

FLORIDA SEEKING TO PASS NEW LEGISLATION ALLOWING NON JUDICIAL FORECLOSURES - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
4/6/2010 12:02:55 PM (4709 views)
Re: FLORIDA SEEKING TO PASS NEW LEGISLATION ALLOWING NON JUDICIAL FORECLOSURES - mason haas/NY
4/6/2010 3:34:46 PM (3281 views)
Re: FLORIDA SEEKING TO PASS NEW LEGISLATION ALLOWING NON JUDICIAL FORECLOSURES - Abstractor/AL
4/6/2010 3:56:28 PM (3333 views)
Re: FLORIDA SEEKING TO PASS NEW LEGISLATION ALLOWING NON JUDICIAL FORECLOSURES - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
4/7/2010 12:06:49 PM (3395 views)

WARNING: FAKE SOT EMAIL NOTICE! - Robert Franco/OH
4/6/2010 9:00:38 AM (4086 views)
Re: WARNING: FAKE SOT EMAIL NOTICE! - Patrick/NY
4/6/2010 9:51:41 AM (3572 views)
Re: WARNING: FAKE SOT EMAIL NOTICE! - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
4/6/2010 12:03:45 PM (3482 views)
Re: WARNING: FAKE SOT EMAIL NOTICE! - Slade Smith/OH
4/6/2010 12:38:59 PM (4020 views)
Re: WARNING: FAKE SOT EMAIL NOTICE! - Nils Nelson/ME
4/6/2010 4:02:40 PM (3500 views)
Re: WARNING: FAKE SOT EMAIL NOTICE! - charles jetter/OH
4/9/2010 8:50:01 PM (3403 views)
Re: WARNING: FAKE SOT EMAIL NOTICE! - charles jetter/OH
4/21/2010 3:09:58 PM (3268 views)

WV ousting independent abstractors - Patricia Perry/WV
4/6/2010 12:12:17 AM (4094 views)
Re: WV ousting independent abstractors - Kristi Lee/NE
4/7/2010 1:14:05 PM (3846 views)
Re: WV ousting independent abstractors - William Pattison /CA
4/7/2010 6:58:54 PM (4819 views)
Re: WV ousting independent abstractors - Slade Smith/OH
4/7/2010 7:25:00 PM (5779 views)
Re: WV ousting independent abstractors - Robert Franco/OH
4/7/2010 10:52:16 PM (3648 views)
Hmm... "examination" - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
4/8/2010 10:40:05 AM (3669 views)
Re: Hmm... "examination" - Slade Smith/OH
4/8/2010 2:22:28 PM (5043 views)
Re: Hmm... "examination" - Patrick Scott/IL
4/8/2010 8:06:12 PM (5306 views)
Re: WV ousting independent abstractors - Patrick Scott/IL
4/7/2010 7:27:03 PM (3588 views)
You are right: WV ousting independents - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
4/9/2010 7:45:29 AM (3518 views)
Re: WV ousting independent abstractors - Patricia /WV
4/12/2010 1:30:07 PM (3520 views)
Re: WV ousting independent abstractors - Leigh Attridge/MA
4/12/2010 8:45:15 AM (3421 views)
Re: WV ousting independent abstractors - Diane Brewer/SC
4/12/2010 9:34:24 AM (4041 views)
Re: WV ousting independent abstractors - Robert Franco/OH
4/12/2010 10:17:02 AM (3664 views)

Infinity International Processing Services Inc - Matt Burger/VA
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Re: Infinity International Processing Services Inc - Michael Vernon/AZ
4/19/2010 3:31:47 AM (3451 views)

NALTEA Seminar/ MN Licensing - Jeanine Johnson/MN
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Micah Mortgage - David Chisolm/MS
4/5/2010 2:12:16 PM (4118 views)
Re: Micah Mortgage - Scott Perry/PA
4/5/2010 6:12:42 PM (3355 views)
Re: Micah Mortgage - David Chisolm/MS
4/5/2010 6:43:49 PM (3314 views)
Re: Micah Mortgage - Scott Perry/PA
4/5/2010 6:59:11 PM (3317 views)


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