Register
Log In
Forget your Password?

Home
Directory
Bulletins
Forums
Blogs
Articles
Links
Classifieds
About Us
Contact Us
Advertise
FAQ
Privacy Policy


Discussion
<< get older messagesget newer messages >>
to post a message: login - or - register | search messages | hide all replies



NYT article on foreclosure malfeasance by BOA & others - Leigh Attridge/MA
12/4/2010 7:52:21 PM (4606 views)

California County Discriminates Against Aliens - William Pattison /CA
12/3/2010 7:09:56 PM (3032 views)
Re: California County Discriminates Against Aliens - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
12/8/2010 10:55:32 PM (3343 views)

Recording liability - Karen Smith/ME
12/3/2010 6:51:14 AM (3532 views)
Re: Recording liability - Leigh Attridge/MA
12/3/2010 8:47:11 AM (3795 views)
Re: Recording liability - William Pattison /CA
12/3/2010 7:00:24 PM (3844 views)
Re: Recording liability - Karen Smith/ME
12/6/2010 11:10:48 AM (3642 views)
Re: Recording liability - Larry Ford
12/6/2010 10:15:54 AM (3726 views)
Re: Recording liability - Karen Smith/ME
12/6/2010 11:09:28 AM (3503 views)
Re: Recording liability - William Pattison /CA
12/7/2010 12:25:46 PM (3472 views)

Comment on "The "Title Recession"-- in Graphs" - Source of Title/OH
12/2/2010 12:21:48 PM (3098 views)
Filed Rate Increases - Wyatt Bell/FL
12/2/2010 12:21:48 PM (3507 views)
Re: Filed Rate Increases - Slade Smith/OH
12/2/2010 12:58:29 PM (3506 views)

RealDetailed - heard of them? - Pat Strasburg/MI
12/2/2010 12:16:21 PM (3453 views)
Re: RealDetailed - heard of them? - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
12/2/2010 6:07:21 PM (3777 views)
Re: RealDetailed - heard of them? - Anita Binns/IL
12/6/2010 8:54:27 AM (3853 views)
Re: RealDetailed - heard of them? - Alix Ott/MI
12/15/2010 6:51:37 PM (3614 views)
Re: RealDetailed - heard of them? - Jacqueline Buck/NJ
3/30/2011 9:19:26 AM (3178 views)
Re: RealDetailed - heard of them? - Terri/PA
4/4/2011 1:41:08 PM (3175 views)


Real Title Services


It all comes back to understanding - George Booth/OH
12/2/2010 9:40:31 AM (3115 views)
You can lead a horse to water... - Slade Smith/OH
12/2/2010 1:09:48 PM (3685 views)
Re: You can lead a horse to water... - Leigh Attridge/MA
12/2/2010 3:50:57 PM (3599 views)
Re: It all comes back to understanding - William Pattison /CA
12/3/2010 7:10:46 PM (3576 views)

How strong is the chain? - michael rafferty/VA
12/1/2010 8:39:11 PM (3399 views)
Re: How strong is the chain? - William Pattison /CA
12/3/2010 7:17:16 PM (3508 views)

Coefficiency, LLC - Ron McPherson/IA
11/30/2010 3:51:25 PM (3906 views)
Re: Coefficiency, LLC - KRISTI HERRING/ID
12/2/2010 10:29:46 AM (3635 views)
Re: Coefficiency, LLC - Ron McPherson/IA
12/3/2010 2:39:12 AM (3574 views)

WARNING: 21st CENTURY NATIONAL ABSTRACTION CO./DEANA MOORE IS A NON-PAYER - Eric Woelfel/MN
11/30/2010 1:48:44 PM (4954 views)
Re: WARNING: 21st CENTURY NATIONAL ABSTRACTION CO./DEANA MOORE IS A NON-PAYER - Alix Ott/MI
11/30/2010 7:07:17 PM (3729 views)
Re: WARNING: 21st CENTURY NATIONAL ABSTRACTION CO./DEANA MOORE IS A NON-PAYER - Eric Woelfel/MN
11/30/2010 8:10:30 PM (3780 views)
Re: WARNING: 21st CENTURY NATIONAL ABSTRACTION CO./DEANA MOORE IS A NON-PAYER - Alix Ott/MI
12/1/2010 1:54:08 PM (3762 views)

BEWARE OF M&M NATIONAL ABSTRACTING & DEBI MILLER - Eric Woelfel/MN
11/30/2010 9:39:18 AM (4385 views)

Spanish Woman Claims She Now Owns Sun - Edouard LeLocle/SC
11/27/2010 8:15:17 PM (3440 views)
Re: Spanish Woman Claims She Now Owns Sun - Patrick Scott/IL
11/29/2010 2:38:34 AM (3569 views)
Re: Spanish Woman Claims She Now Owns Sun - Jeffrey Land/NJ
11/29/2010 10:46:54 AM (3775 views)
Re: Spanish Woman Claims She Now Owns Sun - Michael Vernon/AZ
11/29/2010 1:34:29 PM (3534 views)
This just in.... - J. H./OH
11/29/2010 10:19:51 PM (3391 views)
Re: This just in.... - Jessica Talley/NJ
12/2/2010 3:44:52 PM (3317 views)
Re: Spanish Woman Claims She Now Owns Sun - Slade Smith/OH
11/30/2010 3:17:53 AM (3492 views)
Re: Spanish Woman Claims She Now Owns Sun - William Pattison /CA
11/30/2010 4:16:08 PM (3348 views)
Re: Spanish Woman Claims She Now Owns Sun - Deborah Manion/VA
12/1/2010 5:16:38 PM (3414 views)

So much to say, so little time - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/24/2010 12:22:55 PM (3167 views)
Happy Thanksgiving! - William Pattison /CA
11/24/2010 12:40:34 PM (3276 views)
Re: So much to say, so little time - Slade Smith/OH
11/24/2010 12:58:28 PM (3221 views)
Re: So much to say, so little time - Matt Papsch/MD
11/24/2010 3:10:29 PM (3248 views)
Re: So much to say, so little time - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/24/2010 8:14:13 PM (3207 views)
Re: So much to say, so little time - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/24/2010 8:14:53 PM (3182 views)

Lumar Document Retrieval - Deborah Manion/VA
11/23/2010 2:21:52 PM (3795 views)
Re: Lumar Document Retrieval - Abstractor/IL
12/9/2010 5:12:37 PM (3459 views)

How far to go in explaining an order - Alix Ott/MI
11/22/2010 3:07:28 PM (3430 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Robert Franco/OH
11/22/2010 3:35:07 PM (3577 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - K C/NJ
11/22/2010 6:04:22 PM (3575 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Richard Olson/MD
11/24/2010 9:10:34 AM (3410 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Robert Franco/OH
11/24/2010 9:58:01 AM (3522 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Richard Olson/MD
11/24/2010 10:29:41 AM (3475 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Robert Franco/OH
11/24/2010 10:39:56 AM (3936 views)
Agree with Essentials - William Pattison 
11/24/2010 12:37:01 PM (3452 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/24/2010 9:51:07 PM (3379 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - William Pattison /CA
11/24/2010 11:42:02 AM (3405 views)
Thank you, everyone! - Alix Ott/MI
11/29/2010 7:06:00 AM (3404 views)

Abstractors A Go Go - Deborah Manion/VA
11/22/2010 2:29:54 PM (4527 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
11/22/2010 3:02:36 PM (3551 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
11/22/2010 3:07:02 PM (3456 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
11/22/2010 3:23:45 PM (3421 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jason Knowles/AL
11/24/2010 2:28:08 PM (3318 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - maria santorello/NY
11/23/2010 6:03:18 PM (3345 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Abstractopia/NJ
11/24/2010 9:48:18 AM (3298 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - LINDA/NJ
11/23/2010 4:45:52 PM (3385 views)
Abstractors A Go Gone - Elizabeth Helman/PA
11/23/2010 7:40:16 PM (3444 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - maria santorello/NY
11/23/2010 6:06:34 PM (3341 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/24/2010 8:48:12 AM (3306 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C/NJ
11/24/2010 10:04:26 AM (3272 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/24/2010 10:42:15 PM (3660 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - maria santorello/NY
11/30/2010 11:03:17 AM (3133 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - KC/NJ
11/30/2010 10:17:15 PM (3074 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Robert Franco/OH
11/24/2010 10:12:24 AM (3232 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Deborah Manion/VA
11/24/2010 11:43:19 AM (3128 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Dave Pelligrinelli/GA
12/1/2010 11:29:25 AM (2930 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
12/2/2010 3:51:35 PM (2995 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - JEANETTE LEMONS/WA
11/29/2010 10:15:36 AM (3110 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
12/2/2010 3:58:59 PM (2979 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - maria santorello/NY
11/30/2010 10:54:51 AM (3104 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/30/2010 2:30:30 PM (3128 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Topians/NJ
11/30/2010 10:19:17 PM (3065 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C/NJ
12/1/2010 12:16:52 PM (2988 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C/NJ
11/30/2010 10:34:22 PM (2984 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Robert Franco/OH
12/1/2010 10:01:38 AM (3049 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - The Former GoGo-ers/NJ
12/1/2010 11:58:58 AM (3266 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - robbin roseberry/OH
12/1/2010 3:44:05 PM (3210 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Ken Ungarsohn/NJ
12/1/2010 4:18:00 PM (3119 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
12/1/2010 4:41:09 PM (3023 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C/NJ
12/1/2010 4:47:18 PM (2980 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
12/2/2010 4:26:41 PM (3061 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Leigh Attridge/MA
12/2/2010 4:47:04 PM (2988 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C
12/2/2010 6:14:35 PM (3039 views)

Oh Jessica, Jessica, you couldn't resist could you?  I've kept you out of it (and even agreed with you) but you had to attack me at some point.  And even after we ignored your little hate mail so many months ago - sad.  I'd decided to let this whole thread die in the interest of this community but alas, I must make one last post.  Linda and I were telling facts, not ranting.  But since you've made this personal... Lets look at the real facts (and not delusions told you by your friend), and then I'm done with this:

1. FACT - Ken had the audacity to bring 'god' into it and bless people for the sins and lies of truthfully telling they weren't paid and those of us who know where the money went and how he ran his business.  As I said, i'm NOT religious and I find that sickening.  HE brought religion into a discussion where it had no place... so again, I agree with you.

2. FACT - I do not own a company, nor do I receive any compensation from Abstractopia in any way. 

3. FACT - We do not have a bookkeeper.  We don't need someone on staff full time to have them not pay people, Linda was Ken's bookkeeper and that was her role as dictated by him.

4. FACT = Ken was completely responsible for losing his clients on his own.  If your business is strong, someone opening anywhere who covers your area shouldn't affect your business if you've serviced your clients well, which I know you'd agree with because I perceive you run your business this way (see - I can still speak rationally to you despite your attack - I respect your ability as a businessperson regardless of your friendship with Ken). If your business is well run, one competitor shouldn't have you shutting your doors within a year! 

There was no stealing, I'm no thief nor am I dishonest - SOT provided us with all the resources and advertising abilities we needed to get started.  It wasn't until Ken screwed US on a rush order that we had back in an hour, which he knew, then cancelled on us and refused to take calls that we ever had a single client in common so your 'facts' are erroneous- I doubt you know that story.  Ken would like to believe we came in the night and stole all his clients (sorry, that still makes me laugh) but I know 100%, we only had 3 in common when he closed.  The others we have he did NOT have when Linda was fired in October.  We run our business well, communicate well, give good phone and joke with our abstractors and clients - we don't need to steal.

We've picked up a few from my post in the MarketPlace and when I learned he CLOSED, I finally solicited some I knew who were good pay.  Oh wait, I have a quote here from one of our shared clients while we were discussing GoGo's closure just yesterday and it really points out what great relations he had with his clients (odd wording is not mine, i copied/pasted):  I hate to say this because it’s kinda I’m not disappointed they are gone. It was a nightmare working with them

Before you start preaching the truth - you should learn it because you're being fed The Imaginary World According To Ken.  I'm glad you asked for the truth, now you have the real story.  I've seen it myself - he blames everyone but himself.  Blame Linda for not paying people he told her not to pay. Blame everyone in the office for his mistakes. Blame me, the horrible client relations person/sales person for stealing his clients (how's THAT work out rationally?  I sucked so bad he fired me but I'm so good I can steal all his clients and drive his business into the ground singlehandedly?)

We all worked there because the economy sucked and no one else was hiring.  I don't think anyone out there with two degrees and a long successful career in various facets of real estate (and as a previous business owner) would have expected to end up working in some guy's basement with centipedes, and to be condescended to and berated daily.  Even the 20-somethings who worked there didn't deserve such treatment.  I would have gladly cleaned out kennels iinstead (and believe me I applied) but everywhere I went I was over-qualified and over-educated.  Fortunately or unfortunately, Ken discounted my extensive knowledge in real estate (said it didn't apply to their business), overlooked that I'd been a business owner, overlooked my resume in general or I would never have had the pleasure of being a verbally abused basement dweller making wages i hadn't made since my Freshman year of college. 

Oddly enough?  The reason I didn't leave was because I felt loyalty to his clients.  I felt personally responsible for getting orders back, for keeping up promises, for trying to run it like my own business.  Everywhere I've ever worked, I've always personally invested myself in doing my job right.  I finally put stickies above my desk admonishing myself "Shut up, don't make suggestions."  "It's not your business, stop caring."  We argued less when I tried to care less.

Jessica - the sad thing is we  would probably get along fine if you didn't have this inconceivable need to defend Ken and take his word as gospel.  I've never said anything negative about you and I've agreed with you at at times.  You've sent me hate mail and now gone on a rant against me personally.  Other that this facet of your personality, you've seemed generally reasonable and pleasant.  I'm glad I have this amazing ability to stay away from the computer when I'm angry with someone, then again, I'm not easily angered and certainly not easily baited into making myself look petty by attacking you personally.  YOU requested the truth, well, you got it.

Everyone else, Robert included - sorry to take up your valuable professional forum with this kind of nonsense.  This is the end of it for me. 

to post a reply: login - or - register


Re: Abstractors A Go Go - robbin roseberry/OH
12/2/2010 9:56:24 AM (3043 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Susan Raynard/MA
12/6/2010 4:54:25 PM (3014 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Cliff Boltz/VA
12/8/2010 11:14:59 AM (2833 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
12/8/2010 2:54:12 PM (2958 views)


<< get older messagesget newer messages >>

DISCLAIMER: These Message Forums are un-moderated and Source of Title does not endorse the content of any of the posts. Source of Title discourages libelous comments and you, as the sole creator of the content, take full responsibility for your remarks.
Directory

The Source of Title Business directory has 8961 listed companies.

Leave feedback on a company:
SOT ID #:  learn more...
DRN Title Search
Blogs

Read other users' blogs-- or start your own!

Most Recent Blog Posts:

U.S. Housing Market Hits 30-Year Low in Home Sales: Causes and Consequences
Marissa Berends's Blog
2025/09/08
0 comments

Understanding Mineral Rights and the Importance of Trained Mineral Researchers
Marissa Berends's Blog
2025/09/05
0 comments

FHFA Title Acceptance Pilot: What to know
Marissa Berends's Blog
2025/09/02
0 comments

Articles

Source of Title articles help to keep you informed on the state of the title industry.

August Jobs Report Commentary from MBA's Mike Fratantoni
“Job growth slowed to just 22,000 in August and estimates for the prior two months were revised down by 21,000. Th...
Victory for Homebuyers: President Signs NAR-Supported Privacy Bill
“The National Association of Realtors® strongly supported this legislation from day one, fighting to end a pr...
First American Title Appoints Tara Smith Executive Vice President of Enterprise Growth and Multi-Brand Strategy
“Tara brings a powerful combination of industry expertise, strategic vision, and customer focus,” said Sally...
Mortgage Applications Decrease in Latest MBA Weekly Survey
“Mortgage rates declined last week, with the 30-year fixed rate decreasing to its lowest level since April to 6.64...
Single-Family Construction Down in Large Metros, Up in Rural Areas
“Multifamily market conditions remain stronger than expected, as single-family homeownership sits well out of reac...

Search Articles:
browse...

Classifieds

Buy, sell, or trade! Browse the ads or post your own!

© 2020, Source of Title.