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Dodd-Frank and QRM's - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
12/13/2011 2:22:35 PM (3059 views)
Re: Dodd-Frank and QRM's - Slade Smith/OH
12/13/2011 6:07:17 PM (2996 views)
Re: Dodd-Frank and QRM's - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
12/13/2011 8:16:35 PM (2968 views)
Re: Dodd-Frank and QRM's - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
12/13/2011 8:17:47 PM (2886 views)

Comment on "PA Government Official Arrested for Lying about Connection to Title Company" - Source of Title/OH
12/12/2011 12:47:41 PM (2747 views)
Depends on the definition of Conflict - Jeffrey Land/NJ
12/12/2011 12:47:41 PM (4286 views)
I figured the relationship might be something like that... - Slade Smith/OH
12/12/2011 2:18:38 PM (4670 views)

Strategic Defaults - What's good for American Airlines might be good for borrowers - Leigh Attridge/MA
12/12/2011 10:24:24 AM (4311 views)
Re: Strategic Defaults - What's good for American Airlines might be good for borrowers - Robert Franco/OH
12/12/2011 12:01:40 PM (2898 views)
Re: Strategic Defaults - What's good for American Airlines might be good for borrowers - Slade Smith
12/12/2011 12:14:58 PM (2811 views)

This is kind of a two-wrongs-make-a-right argument.  If you don't think it's right that a corporation weasels out of debts that it could and should pay, I don't see how you can justify it when an underwater homeowner does it.

Moreover, (and take this with a grain of salt, because I have not closely examined the AMR bankruptcy) I think the AMR bankruptcy is probably more defensible than a true strategic default-- where the borrower has plenty of income and a positive net worth, but simply chooses not to pay the mortgage.  While AMR may have enough cash to meet all their obligations for a short period of time, doing so would likely leave the company in a position where it would simply have to be shuttered, costing tens of thousands of people their jobs.  By declaring bankruptcy before that point is reached, the enterprise is likely salvageable, saving jobs. In the case of the positive net worth strategic defaulter, their decision is merely to benefit themselves at the expense of the lender.

One thing that I believe needs to be done is to legalize mortgage cramdowns in bankruptcy.  The fact that homeowners can't get relief from their mortgage debt in bankruptcy creates a mismatch between the set of people who truly need relief from their debts and those who can get it.

I don't necessarily think that legal cramdowns would cause everybody with an underwater mortgage to file for bankruptcy.  If cramdowns were legal, then I think banks would be far more likely to approve modifications and short sales for fear that the homeowner would declare bankruptcy and leave the fate of the mortgage in the hands of a bankruptcy judge.  So many underwater homeowners would not have to file for bankruptcy but they would still be helped by the possibility of a cramdown. 

Bankruptcy would be able to distinguish between strategic defaulters with a lot of wealth and strategic defaulters who have a negative net worth because of how much they are underwater.  I do not approve of strategic defaults, but I really do not consider it to be a strategic default in case when the borrower has just enough income to make their mortgage payment but is put into a negative net worth situation because of the underwater mortgage.  In these cases, the borrower is trapped in the home and the underwater mortgage will be a burden for years and years.  These are cases where the borrower should have the option of bankruptcy but currently doesn't. 

It's a wholly separate situation when the underwater borrower has plenty of income and wealth and they strategically default.  I think that is morally wrong and should not be encouraged.  One thing that could deter this kind of strategic defaulter is if banks had stronger recourse to collect deficiencies after foreclosure.  Perhaps there could be a tradeoff between cramdowns and recourse laws such that those whose mortgage was a legitimate burden could get relief in bankruptcy, but those with a lot of wealth would have no way out of the debt.

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Mortgage Deficiencies - Victoria Moate/NJ
2/20/2012 7:54:00 PM (2538 views)
Re: Mortgage Deficiencies - Slade Smith/OH
2/21/2012 3:30:27 PM (2515 views)
Mortgage Deficiencies - Clarification - Victoria Moate/NJ
2/21/2012 10:42:24 PM (5016 views)
Re: Mortgage Deficiencies - Clarification - Slade Smith/OH
2/21/2012 11:57:46 PM (2429 views)
Re: Mortgage Deficiencies - Clarification - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2012 8:44:58 AM (2350 views)

Multifunction Printers/Scanners - F P/VA
12/12/2011 9:31:43 AM (3075 views)
Re: Multifunction Printers/Scanners - Leigh Attridge/MA
12/12/2011 10:32:32 AM (3075 views)
Re: Multifunction Printers/Scanners - Leigh Attridge
12/12/2011 10:32:35 AM (3014 views)
Re: Multifunction Printers/Scanners - Serena Stout/VA
12/12/2011 11:06:38 AM (2944 views)
Re: Multifunction Printers/Scanners - F P/VA
12/13/2011 7:03:58 AM (2899 views)
Re: Multifunction Printers/Scanners - Heather Seymour/IN
12/12/2011 11:12:05 AM (5970 views)
Re: Multifunction Printers/Scanners - Alix Ott/MI
12/13/2011 10:17:13 AM (2831 views)
Re: Multifunction Printers/Scanners - F P/VA
12/13/2011 8:51:55 PM (3110 views)
Re: Multifunction Printers/Scanners - Marian Littleton/VA
12/15/2011 10:54:30 AM (3149 views)
Re: Multifunction Printers/Scanners - Phil McLean/CO
12/18/2011 11:30:56 AM (2804 views)
Re: Multifunction Printers/Scanners - Alix Ott/MI
12/19/2011 8:38:46 AM (2647 views)
Re: Multifunction Printers/Scanners - Brenda Palmer/TN
12/19/2011 2:34:17 AM (2738 views)
Re: Multifunction Printers/Scanners - Paul Miller/MA
12/19/2011 8:18:00 AM (2730 views)
Re: Multifunction Printers/Scanners - Robert Franco/OH
12/19/2011 9:45:27 AM (2717 views)
Re: Multifunction Printers/Scanners - Bill Zimmerman/VA
12/20/2011 12:14:06 AM (2836 views)
Re: Multifunction Printers/Scanners - Ron McPherson/IA
12/20/2011 2:27:31 AM (2682 views)
Re: Multifunction Printers/Scanners - Helene/GA
12/22/2011 9:29:59 PM (2864 views)

Slightly Off-Topic...Read At Your Own Risk - Scott Perry/PA
12/11/2011 1:16:06 AM (4017 views)




title insurance "bundled" or flat rates - Sally Tamborski/OH
12/9/2011 8:44:11 AM (2726 views)

Liability Question - Nils Nelson/ME
12/8/2011 3:58:09 PM (2860 views)
Re: Liability Question - Wyatt Bell/FL
12/9/2011 10:31:20 AM (2806 views)
Re: Liability Question - Nils Nelson/ME
12/9/2011 12:45:30 PM (2682 views)
Re: Liability Question - Robert Franco/OH
12/9/2011 11:47:10 AM (2714 views)
Re: Liability Question - Nils Nelson/ME
12/9/2011 12:47:19 PM (2758 views)

Realty Data - Dan Zook/NY
12/8/2011 12:00:31 PM (2534 views)

Comment on "Congress Possibly to Take Up Amendment to Dodd-Frank Favorable to AfBAs " - Source of Title/OH
12/7/2011 11:33:43 AM (2736 views)
and on the off chance the should lose... - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
12/7/2011 11:33:43 AM (6885 views)

Leveraging Up with Housing Loans - Wyatt Bell/FL
12/5/2011 3:44:06 PM (3914 views)

Is BOA Holding America Hostage? - Leigh Attridge/MA
12/5/2011 2:46:35 PM (4469 views)
Re: Is BOA Holding America Hostage? - Wyatt Bell/FL
12/5/2011 3:53:49 PM (2946 views)

Beware of Boston National Title - Deborah Jackson/GA
12/5/2011 11:49:16 AM (13812 views)
Re: Beware of Boston National Title - Anita Binns/IL
12/5/2011 3:48:41 PM (4205 views)
Re: Beware of Boston National Title - Regina  Engebritson/MN
12/6/2011 3:34:38 PM (4052 views)
Re: Beware of Boston National Title - Joseph Kelley/MO
12/6/2011 6:11:35 PM (3890 views)
Re: Beware of Boston National Title - F P/VA
12/7/2011 7:24:34 AM (3785 views)
Re: Beware of Boston National Title - Serena Stout/VA
12/12/2011 10:52:59 AM (3757 views)
Re: Beware of Boston National Title - Deborah Jackson/GA
12/12/2011 12:46:46 PM (3484 views)
Re: Beware of Boston National Title - Michaela Urban/OH
12/13/2011 7:49:25 AM (3611 views)
Re: Beware of Boston National Title - Lyazzat Davletova/VA
2/11/2013 7:31:39 PM (2684 views)

Will the 60 Minutes report on the lack of Wall Street prosecutions... - Slade Smith/OH
12/5/2011 10:28:03 AM (4604 views)
Re: Will the 60 Minutes report on the lack of Wall Street prosecutions... - john franz/NJ
12/5/2011 11:14:34 AM (3209 views)
Re: Will the 60 Minutes report on the lack of Wall Street prosecutions... - Scott Perry/PA
12/5/2011 9:52:19 PM (2966 views)
Re: Will the 60 Minutes report on the lack of Wall Street prosecutions... - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
12/6/2011 3:59:18 PM (2917 views)
Re: Will the 60 Minutes report on the lack of Wall Street prosecutions... - Leigh Attridge/MA
12/6/2011 5:54:00 PM (2847 views)

Treasuring Urban Oases - Leigh Attridge/MA
12/4/2011 11:49:45 AM (3783 views)

Comment on "NAILTA Announces Opposition to "MERS 2" Proposal" - Source of Title/OH
12/3/2011 10:06:44 PM (2768 views)
MERS SOLUTION MADE EASY - kim Wilson/GA
12/3/2011 10:06:44 PM (9348 views)
Re: MERS SOLUTION MADE EASY - Judith McDonald/DE
12/5/2011 11:38:48 AM (9134 views)


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