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Abstractor Worksheets - Jim Ashley/WV
2/14/2015 10:01:39 AM (3759 views)
Re: Abstractor Worksheets - Saundra  Scott/MD
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Re: Abstractor Worksheets - Michael Madden/RI
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Re: Abstractor Worksheets - Jim Ashley/WV
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Re: Abstractor Worksheets - Houston Needham/MI
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SIC / NAICS Code Question - John Pratt/IL
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Re: SIC / NAICS Code Question - R A/KY
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Re: SIC / NAICS Code Question - Marian Littleton/VA
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Re: SIC / NAICS Code Question - Marian Littleton/VA
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Re: SIC / NAICS Code Question - John Pratt/IL
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Ameristar - John Baker/OH
2/11/2015 12:37:55 PM (2756 views)
Re: Ameristar - Heidi Gemeling/FL
2/12/2015 9:27:59 AM (2616 views)
Re: Ameristar - KIMBERLY  FALCONE/PA
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Re: Ameristar - Heidi Gemeling/FL
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Re: Ameristar - Sharon Yahraes/ID
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Re: Ameristar - Christine Marley/IN
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Re: Ameristar - David Bloys/TX
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Slow payers - R A/KY
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INDEPENDENT SETTLEMENT SERVICES - Heidi Gemeling/FL
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Re: INDEPENDENT SETTLEMENT SERVICES - Jason Knowles/AL
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Corporate Settlement Solutions - Heidi Gemeling/FL
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Re: Corporate Settlement Solutions - BILL SYLVESTER/PA
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Re: Corporate Settlement Solutions - Diane O'Neill/MI
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search fees? - Christine Sheeler/PA
2/9/2015 9:12:33 AM (3032 views)
Re: search fees? - R A/KY
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Re: search fees? - Christine Sheeler/PA
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Re: search fees? - Mercedes Moreno/FL
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Re: search fees? - Lu Rivera/PA
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Re: search fees? - Randi Erickson/MN
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Re: search fees? - REBECCA RIZZONELLI/PA
3/2/2015 8:05:41 AM (2281 views)
Do companies need all those copies?? - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/16/2015 12:06:17 PM (2245 views)
Re: search fees? - Marian Severance/PA
6/18/2015 9:09:18 PM (2059 views)

Comment on "Title Searcher Liability to the Parties in a Real Estate Transaction" - Source of Title/OH
2/9/2015 8:53:06 AM (2202 views)
Title Searcher responsiblity to the parties in a real estate transaction - stephen willard/OH
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Re: Title Searcher responsiblity to the parties in a real estate transaction - Slade Smith/OH
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Re: Comment on "Title Searcher Liability to the Parties in a Real Estate Transaction" - R A/KY
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Re: Comment on "Title Searcher Liability to the Parties in a Real Estate Transaction" - Victoria Moate/NJ
2/16/2015 11:39:49 AM (2168 views)

North Carolina & South Carolina - Jim Ashley/WV
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Re: North Carolina & South Carolina - WAYNE QUICK/NC
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Re: North Carolina & South Carolina - Jim Ashley/WV
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Re: North Carolina & South Carolina - Renee  DeAngelo/NC
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Re: North Carolina & South Carolina - mollie cardell/SC
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Re: North Carolina & South Carolina - Jim Ashley/WV
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Re: North Carolina & South Carolina - Anthony BROWNN/VA
2/16/2015 1:03:25 PM (2085 views)
Re: North Carolina & South Carolina - Jim Ashley/WV
2/17/2015 9:36:01 AM (2206 views)
Re: North Carolina & South Carolina - Anthony BROWNN/VA
2/17/2015 10:30:49 AM (2074 views)

Explaining to customers about not giving legal advice on reports - David Simonton/FL
2/7/2015 9:11:36 AM (2208 views)
Re: Explaining to customers about not giving legal advice on reports - Scott Perry/PA
2/7/2015 3:38:34 PM (2200 views)



As soon as you find out, let me know, David.

I'm in a similar situation with a good customer who has a client wanting to know who owns the mineral rights to a small parcel in Washington County, PA.  "All we want to know is who owns the mineral rights. We do not need them searched." was the information passed along to me.

The problem is that the county does not keep track of ownership of subsurface estates since they are not separately assessed.  I tried to explain that there is no way to determine that without examining the deeds in the backchain to find the original severance, (which can be as far back as 1850 in this part of PA), then running it forward from there.  My customer understands this, but had a hard time explaining that to his client.

So I quote them a price, they come back and tell us all they want is a document retrieval.  I run the index on the current owner and pull copies of all leases, easements, etc. for the usual fee plus copy fees.  I also included a disclaimer stating that I did not do a search

Next day, my customer forwards an email from his client, says basically, this is not what we wanted, we need to know who owns the mineral rights, the deed clearly states it is not the [surface owner]. (It doesn't "clearly state" anything of the kind.) 

My customer wanted to know what he should tell them,  I simply replied, "Tell them that if they believe the surface owner does not own the mineral estate, they need to be willing to pay someone to find out who does. They need to understand that mineral searches are not cheap.  They also need to specify if they also want know who owns the oil & gas.  That's considered a separate estate from the mineral in PA."

So now I'm waiting to hear back from my customer to see how his client responds.  Sorry this isn't very helpful, David, but if nothing else, it just goes to show that Frank Zappa was right when he said that there's more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe.

Regards,
Scott Perry





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Re: Explaining to customers about not giving legal advice on reports - Alix Ott/MI
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Re: Explaining to customers about not giving legal advice on reports - Michael Madden/RI
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Re: Explaining to customers about not giving legal advice on reports - Nils Nelson/ME
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Re: Explaining to customers about not giving legal advice on reports - Victoria Moate/NJ
2/16/2015 11:44:57 AM (1915 views)

Ameristar- bad reputation - Sharon Yahraes/ID
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Re: Ameristar- bad reputation - R A/KY
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Re: Ameristar- bad reputation - Sharon Yahraes/ID
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Re: Ameristar- bad reputation - REBECCA RIZZONELLI/PA
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Re: Ameristar- bad reputation - Sharon Yahraes/ID
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Re: Ameristar- bad reputation - VIRGINIA KAETZEL/MD
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Re: Ameristar- bad reputation - george Hubka/MI
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Knowledge Splice Services - Jim Ashley/WV
2/5/2015 6:45:41 PM (2325 views)
Re: Knowledge Splice Services - Pamela Knott/VA
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Re: Knowledge Splice Services - Jim Ashley/WV
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Re: Knowledge Splice Services - R A/KY
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Re: Knowledge Splice Services - R A/KY
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Re: Knowledge Splice Services - Jim Ashley/WV
2/17/2015 8:37:33 AM (2017 views)

New England ROW Abstracting? - R Cochran/NH
2/4/2015 8:43:10 PM (2134 views)
Re: New England ROW Abstracting? - Alix Ott/MI
2/16/2015 12:00:32 PM (2030 views)
Re: New England ROW Abstracting? - R Cochran/NH
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Re: New England ROW Abstracting? - Janette  Buell/NY
2/23/2015 7:58:41 AM (1875 views)
Re: New England ROW Abstracting? - R Cochran/NH
2/23/2015 8:09:55 AM (1891 views)
Re: New England ROW Abstracting? - Janette  Buell/NY
2/23/2015 7:58:43 AM (1908 views)

Altisource - Roberta Dean/IN
2/3/2015 4:32:32 PM (3036 views)
Re: Altisource - Nils Nelson/ME
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Re: Altisource - Brandy Cook/VA
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Re: Altisource - amanda  dominiak/MI
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Re: Altisource - K C/NJ
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Re: Altisource - Roberta Dean/IN
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Re: Altisource - R A/KY
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Re: Altisource - R A/KY
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Re: Altisource - Mercedes Moreno/FL
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Your morning chuckle.... - Alix Ott/MI
2/3/2015 9:04:33 AM (2283 views)
Re: Your morning chuckle.... - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Your morning chuckle.... - Renee  DeAngelo/NC
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Re: Your morning chuckle.... - Renee  DeAngelo/NC
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Re: Your morning chuckle.... - Roberta Dean/IN
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