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Half of Detroit's Lights May Go Dark as City Shrinks Itself - Scott Perry/PA
6/1/2012 1:04:54 PM (3512 views)
Re: Half of Detroit's Lights May Go Dark as City Shrinks Itself - george Hubka/MI
6/4/2012 1:21:23 PM (2576 views)
Re: Half of Detroit's Lights May Go Dark as City Shrinks Itself - Leigh Attridge/MA
6/4/2012 5:22:02 PM (2565 views)
Re: Half of Detroit's Lights May Go Dark as City Shrinks Itself - Scott Perry/PA
6/4/2012 9:58:44 PM (4853 views)
Re: Half of Detroit's Lights May Go Dark as City Shrinks Itself - Leigh Attridge/MA
6/4/2012 10:41:42 PM (2558 views)
Re: Half of Detroit's Lights May Go Dark as City Shrinks Itself - Scott Perry/PA
6/4/2012 10:47:32 PM (2560 views)
Re: Half of Detroit's Lights May Go Dark as City Shrinks Itself - Leigh Attridge/MA
6/4/2012 11:10:34 PM (2618 views)
Re: Half of Detroit's Lights May Go Dark as City Shrinks Itself - Scott Perry/PA
6/5/2012 6:54:44 AM (2558 views)

How to Make Law School Affordable - Leigh Attridge/MA
6/1/2012 12:08:08 PM (3568 views)
Re: How to Make Law School Affordable - Slade Smith/OH
6/4/2012 12:10:39 AM (2609 views)

Document Software - Venita Peyton/NC
5/31/2012 12:20:19 PM (2234 views)
Re: Document Software - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2012 1:03:48 PM (2704 views)
Re: Document Software - Jeffrey Land/NJ
6/4/2012 10:55:30 AM (2619 views)

Memorial Day - Jay D/MO
5/25/2012 3:20:18 PM (4346 views)
Re: Memorial Day - Nils Nelson/ME
5/25/2012 4:29:57 PM (2784 views)

What happens when the IRS makes a mistake? - Leigh Attridge/MA
5/24/2012 5:16:02 PM (2355 views)
Re: What happens when the IRS makes a mistake? - James Powell/MI
5/25/2012 8:28:59 AM (2965 views)
Re: What happens when the IRS makes a mistake? - Leigh Attridge/MA
5/25/2012 8:39:30 AM (2877 views)




CSI: Housing Bust - Leigh Attridge/MA
5/24/2012 3:30:26 PM (3761 views)
Re: CSI: Housing Bust - Leigh Attridge/MA
5/24/2012 4:41:43 PM (2916 views)
Re: CSI: Housing Bust - Jessica Talley/FL
5/25/2012 7:23:49 AM (2760 views)

E & O companies you recommend? - Michael Toebe/KS
5/23/2012 10:58:08 PM (2341 views)
Re: E & O companies you recommend? - Robert Franco/OH
5/24/2012 9:55:31 AM (5145 views)
Re: E & O companies you recommend? - Patrick Scott/IL
5/24/2012 12:20:58 PM (5044 views)
Re: E & O companies you recommend? - Leigh Attridge/MA
5/24/2012 3:32:23 PM (2990 views)
Re: E & O companies you recommend? - john rutledge/VA
5/29/2012 8:46:50 AM (2815 views)
Re: E & O companies you recommend? - Suzi Wallace/CA
5/29/2012 1:26:00 AM (4894 views)

Unbelievable - Nils Nelson/ME
5/23/2012 6:03:21 PM (2675 views)
Re: Unbelievable - Constance Foye/VA
5/23/2012 11:25:46 PM (3109 views)
Re: Unbelievable - Scott Perry/PA
5/23/2012 11:28:04 PM (3130 views)
Re: Unbelievable - Nils Nelson/ME
5/23/2012 11:49:02 PM (3037 views)
Re: Unbelievable - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
5/24/2012 11:30:02 AM (3066 views)
Re: Unbelievable - Joyce Obrien/PA
5/24/2012 11:30:16 AM (3009 views)
Re: Irony - Patrick Scott/IL
5/24/2012 12:06:07 PM (3092 views)
Re: Unbelievable - Slade Smith/OH
5/24/2012 12:19:37 PM (3019 views)
Re: Unbelievable - Leigh Attridge/MA
5/24/2012 5:04:44 PM (3000 views)
Re: Unbelievable - Slade Smith/OH
5/24/2012 6:06:14 PM (2965 views)
My opinion... - Robert Franco/OH
5/25/2012 11:02:29 AM (3227 views)

While I do share in your frustration, Nils, I think you might be letting this bother you a little too much.  Though the substance of the discussions here is not what I envisioned, it is apparently what people want to talk about.

I try to keep up on all the posts on this forum, so I at least skim them all (when I have time).  It does get frustrating to see so many posts on non-payment.  However, if it helps people get paid or avoid losses, then I guess it serves a valid purpose.  I would just like to see more real, substantive title issues discussed along with those kinds of posts.

I try occasionally to post about those issues to "jump start" meaningful discussion.  All of those come from real searches we have done, or someone has called to ask me about.  I'm sure many others see strange things in searches all the time that would make for good discussions here, but they rarely post anything.

I can only guess, but I think there are a few reasons for that.

  1. Many abstractors today lack the level of training and knowledge they should have.  They are probably afraid to ask questions because their lack of knowledge may show publicly and they fear embarrassment.
  2. Some may not even recognize these issues, due to the aforementioned lack of training and knowledge.
  3. Some of our regular posters are just not very courteous and people who have good stories to share do not want to open themselves up to rude comments.
  4. Not everyone writes well, and some may be afraid to try to write a post about title issues that they may not be able to explain very well.
  5. And, some people just don't post because they believe that their "issue" is a state issue and they don't want to open it up for discussion on a national forum.

Here are my thoughts...

  1. Sharing these title issues will help everyone who reads about them become more knowledgeable.  If more people shared stories, we might actually help the industry as a whole become more knowledgeable.  It might even help our clients understand why it is so important to use a knowledgeable abstractor.
  2. If you have an issue, you should want to learn more about it.  Take the time to do a little research on your state real estate law or title standards, and post what you find.  Open it up for other opinions.  Someone may know more about it and be able to enlighten us all.
  3. Don't worry about variations in state law, just point out where you think state law may make a difference and let others share their state law as a starting point for understanding the bigger issue involved.
  4. If you are unclear on the law... just post the facts and let other comment on their understanding of the law.
  5. If you fear "rude comments" by others, just get over it.  There will always be trolls on forums, but hopefully if enough people share substantive comments, the trolls will be in the minority and they should be the ones embarrassed by their comments. 

It is sad that so many people who have made substantive contributions to the forums have disappeared or remain silent.  This is a community and we need to learn to be respectful of others if this is going to be a good resource for the industry.

If you really want to see a better quality of posts on the forums (and I'm not just speaking to Nils) you need to help make it that way by contributing substantively to the discussions.  I would encourage everyone to share in that goal.  I do what I can, but between managing an abstract business, hosting Source of Title, and practicing law, I cannot do it alone. 

Thanks (for listening to my rant.)

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: My opinion... - Rebecca Cowart/MS
5/28/2012 8:39:44 AM (2913 views)
Re: My opinion... - Slade Smith/OH
5/29/2012 9:35:55 AM (2968 views)

Northwest Title - Jason Knowles/AL
5/23/2012 10:19:14 AM (2041 views)

California Title Searching - Jacqueline Purcell/CT
5/22/2012 8:56:17 AM (2428 views)
Re: California Title Searching - Suzi Wallace/CA
5/29/2012 1:27:22 AM (2994 views)
Re: California Title Searching - Sharon Yahraes/ID
6/7/2012 5:39:59 PM (2761 views)

Westward Ho -- Homesteading 1863 - Leigh Attridge/MA
5/21/2012 9:12:25 PM (3571 views)

Quickbooks for abstracting?? - Palmetto  Tree/SC
5/21/2012 8:54:22 AM (2400 views)
Re: Quickbooks for abstracting?? - john rutledge/VA
5/21/2012 10:21:53 AM (3070 views)
Re: Quickbooks for abstracting?? - Leigh Attridge/MA
5/21/2012 7:01:32 PM (3027 views)
Re: Quickbooks for abstracting?? - Sharon Yahraes/ID
5/21/2012 11:35:35 AM (2984 views)
Re: Quickbooks for abstracting?? - Jessica Talley/FL
5/21/2012 12:37:29 PM (3040 views)
Re: Quickbooks for abstracting?? - Scott Tischler/OH
5/21/2012 10:57:54 PM (2942 views)
Re: Quickbooks for abstracting?? - Scott Tischler/OH
6/1/2012 11:03:08 AM (2738 views)
Re: Quickbooks for abstracting?? - Scott Tischler/OH
6/1/2012 11:03:12 AM (2797 views)
Re: Quickbooks for abstracting?? - Jessica Talley/FL
6/1/2012 5:17:33 PM (2879 views)
Re: Quickbooks for abstracting?? - Palmetto  Tree/SC
6/6/2012 3:22:42 PM (2656 views)
Re: Quickbooks for abstracting?? - Kathy Hoskins/TN
5/22/2012 8:53:47 AM (2904 views)
Re: Quickbooks for abstracting?? - Palmetto  Tree/SC
5/22/2012 10:01:25 AM (2896 views)
Re: Quickbooks for abstracting?? - Suzi Wallace/CA
5/29/2012 1:32:10 AM (2815 views)
Re: Quickbooks for abstracting?? - Palmetto  Tree/SC
5/29/2012 9:03:06 AM (2799 views)

Genealogy / Public Request - Palmetto  Tree/SC
5/21/2012 8:51:01 AM (2378 views)
Re: Genealogy / Public Request - Sharon Yahraes/ID
5/21/2012 11:38:53 AM (3104 views)
Re: Genealogy / Public Request - Jean Lurtsema/AK
5/31/2012 10:36:30 AM (2753 views)
Re: Genealogy / Public Request - george Hubka/MI
6/4/2012 1:35:54 PM (2723 views)
Re: Genealogy / Public Request - Alix Ott/MI
5/29/2012 7:54:31 AM (2798 views)
Re: Genealogy / Public Request - Palmetto  Tree/SC
5/29/2012 9:00:57 AM (2862 views)
Re: Genealogy / Public Request - Bill Garrett/MS
5/29/2012 12:04:11 PM (2982 views)
Re: Genealogy / Public Request - Palmetto  Tree/SC
6/6/2012 3:25:46 PM (2615 views)

Two Earths Needed by 2030 - Scott Perry/PA
5/17/2012 1:26:26 PM (3365 views)

Check this YouTube video out - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
5/17/2012 12:07:22 PM (3972 views)
Re: Check this YouTube video out - Scott Perry/PA
5/17/2012 1:31:16 PM (3162 views)
Re: Check this YouTube video out - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
5/17/2012 1:47:10 PM (3276 views)


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