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How public should "public information" be? - David Bloys
1/15/2004 10:06:22 AM (1650 views)
Re: How public should "public information" be? - Robert Franco
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Re: How public should "public information" be? - Jan Forster
1/15/2004 3:40:15 PM (2485 views)
Re: How public should "public information" be? - David Bloys
1/15/2004 5:17:05 PM (2383 views)
Re: How public should "public information" be? - David Bloys
1/15/2004 4:48:01 PM (2429 views)
Re: How public should "public information" be? - Robert Franco
1/15/2004 4:55:12 PM (2439 views)
Re: How public should "public information" be? - David Bloys
1/15/2004 5:41:59 PM (2249 views)
Re: How public should "public information" be? - ss
1/15/2004 8:09:32 PM (2276 views)
Re: How public should "public information" be? - Michael Finley
1/17/2004 10:51:52 AM (2292 views)
Re: How public should "public information" be? - ECCE
1/17/2004 12:54:13 PM (2194 views)
Re: How public should "public information" be? - Michael Finley
1/17/2004 10:38:56 PM (2223 views)
Re: How public should "public information" be? - Paul Richards
1/18/2004 12:07:27 AM (2142 views)
Re: How public should "public information" be? - Paul Richards
1/18/2004 12:10:30 AM (2194 views)

title searchers wanted in Va - Dave Gravely
1/14/2004 3:43:18 PM (1587 views)
Re: title searchers wanted in Va - Nikki Marangoni
1/29/2004 6:55:21 PM (2160 views)

EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY - Jay Duncan
1/13/2004 3:46:41 PM (1375 views)

DocuPen on Ebay - Robert Franco
1/13/2004 12:57:44 PM (1845 views)

E&O Prices - James Guill
1/10/2004 12:42:43 AM (1521 views)
Re: E&O Prices - DONNA GRADY
1/10/2004 6:13:41 PM (2633 views)
Re: E&O Prices - Jay Duncan
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Re: E&O Prices - ss
1/11/2004 11:28:33 AM (2650 views)
Re: E&O Prices - Smitty Strickland
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Re: E&O Prices - Glenda Hodge
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Radian Express - Jay Duncan
1/9/2004 11:20:18 PM (1625 views)
Re: Radian Express - Michael Finley
1/10/2004 7:43:29 AM (2300 views)
Re: Radian Express - Jay Duncan
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State Licensing - Jay Duncan
1/8/2004 4:27:10 PM (1717 views)
Re: State Licensing - Loretta Reed
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Re: State Licensing - Robert Franco
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Re: State Licensing - DONNA GRADY
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Re: State Licensing - DONNA GRADY
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Re: State Licensing - monica froese
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Re: State Licensing - Jacqueline Costa
1/9/2004 7:23:23 AM (2427 views)
Re: State Licensing - Loretta Reed
1/9/2004 10:18:28 AM (2410 views)
Re: State Licensing - Cleo
1/9/2004 9:01:14 AM (2488 views)
Re: State Licensing - Annette Dorty
1/9/2004 10:53:52 AM (2421 views)
Re: State Licensing - SS
1/9/2004 7:22:55 PM (2384 views)
Re: State Licensing - Jackie Sikora
1/10/2004 7:57:59 AM (2313 views)
Re: State Licensing - James Toney
1/12/2004 11:26:46 PM (2308 views)
Re: State Licensing - Navy Federal
1/16/2004 6:54:49 PM (2220 views)

HOT and not so hot List - Helga Hinck
1/8/2004 1:31:16 PM (1282 views)

Review on Docupen - J Davis
1/8/2004 9:47:45 AM (1588 views)
Re: Review on Docupen - Robert Franco
1/8/2004 6:55:48 PM (2440 views)
Re: Review on Docupen - Annette Dorty
1/9/2004 10:55:49 AM (2367 views)
Re: Review on Docupen - Robert Franco
1/9/2004 5:43:20 PM (2351 views)
Re: Review on Docupen - Jan Forster
1/9/2004 11:58:22 PM (2407 views)
Re: Review on Docupen - Robert Franco
1/10/2004 1:33:22 AM (2304 views)

Cell Site Searches - John OConnor
1/7/2004 12:26:53 PM (1595 views)
Re: Cell Site Searches - Robert Franco
1/7/2004 5:16:47 PM (2366 views)
Re: Cell Site Searches - James Toney
1/12/2004 11:19:54 PM (2166 views)

Software For Orders - Cherie Smurthwaite
1/6/2004 6:51:18 PM (1738 views)
Re: Software For Orders - Tim Collins
1/15/2004 5:37:23 PM (2090 views)

Pricing and Online Databases - Theresa Hartenberger
1/5/2004 11:23:40 PM (1732 views)
Re: Pricing and Online Databases - Michael Finley
1/10/2004 7:33:27 AM (2221 views)

PMM searches - need your thoughts - Shawna Skinner
1/5/2004 5:28:08 PM (1856 views)
Re: PMM searches - need your thoughts - Loretta Reed
1/5/2004 5:42:13 PM (2470 views)
Re: PMM searches - need your thoughts - Jacqueline Costa
1/6/2004 3:40:02 PM (2594 views)
Re: PMM searches - need your thoughts - Robert Franco
1/6/2004 3:49:55 PM (2624 views)
Re: PMM searches - need your thoughts - Shannon Blatt
1/8/2004 3:31:03 PM (2429 views)
Re: PMM searches - need your thoughts - Jackie Sikora
1/10/2004 7:26:56 AM (2440 views)
Re: PMM searches - need your thoughts - James Toney
1/12/2004 11:11:08 PM (2352 views)

Re: PMM
Interesting question and answers.

I believe the old general rule regarding a purchase money mortgage pertained to a seller's lein in the form of a mortgage or deed of trust where the buyer(s) gave it to the seller in order to secure a lien against the property until the purchase price was paid in full. If that definition applies within a particular state it would seem to me that a lender who is accepting a current owner search as basis for title would want a mortgage or deed of trust to some other party than the seller, i.e. a strong financial institution that has more than likely required a full search prior to making the loan. Thereby, making the pmm analogous to a Quitclaim Deed from a family member for chain of title purposes.

On the other hand, a newer definition of purchase money mortgage or purchase money deed of trust has begun to emerge through both statutory and case law and the interpretation of the UCC where the purchase money mortgage or deed of trust can give the deed of trust priority over preexisting judgments and liens against the purchaser. I am uncertain as to which jurisdictions this rule has come to apply. I do know that there are cases in Southern 2nd,and Southeastern 2nd, as well as cases arising out of Minn. and NY, which hold some form of this view.

This new definition of purchase money mortgage or deed of trust requires a number elements be met before the mortgage or deed of trust is considered a purchase money deed of trust. One is that the instrument clearly say that it is a purchase money deed mortgage or deed of trust. Another is that the mortgage or deed of trust be a part of the same transaction as the recording of the deed. There seems to be some dispute as to the meaning of the term "same transaction." I am sure there are other elements that must be met and perhaps others here can provide them.

Well, I hope that I haven't muddied the waters. And I look forward to any comments y'all may have. I have really enjoyed reading the different interpretations from around the country. Here in Mississippi, I have asked several bankers about purchase money mortgages and gotten only blank looks. We are a deed of trust state and it's first recorded --- first priority. Well, with the exception of commercial property with proper UCC filings. But that is another question.



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TransUnion - DONNA GRADY
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Re: TransUnion - veronica owens
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Re: TransUnion - Loretta Reed
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DocuPen - Robert Franco
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Re: TransUnion - Jacqueline Costa
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Re: TransUnion - Jill Kissell
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Has anyone heard feedback from TU about the price reduction? - Nora Dillard
1/3/2004 1:55:48 AM (1494 views)
Re: Has anyone heard feedback from TU about the price reduction? - Jay Duncan
1/9/2004 8:43:39 AM (2111 views)
Re: Has anyone heard feedback from TU about the price reduction? - CLEOFI BLASS
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Re: Has anyone heard feedback from TU about the price reduction? - ss
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