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THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 3:15:35 AM (1983 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION, part 1 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 9:41:10 AM (3862 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 2 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 9:56:13 AM (3913 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 10:18:33 AM (3753 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - David Bloys
5/28/2004 11:43:16 AM (3923 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 12:36:02 PM (3775 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - David Bloys
5/28/2004 2:31:42 PM (3877 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:14:04 PM (3886 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 3:21:56 PM (3737 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/28/2004 4:08:12 PM (3783 views)
Re: My small comments - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/30/2004 8:00:51 PM (3849 views)
Re: My small comments - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2004 5:46:00 PM (3803 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 11:03:17 AM (3748 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 12:57:23 PM (3870 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 1:37:03 PM (3847 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 2:55:15 PM (3849 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:12:22 PM (3946 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 3:32:57 PM (3765 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:56:08 PM (3869 views)
Bottom Line - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 6:05:20 PM (3748 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 9:56:31 AM (3714 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/29/2004 12:24:43 PM (3737 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 1:52:47 PM (3769 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Jay Duncan
5/29/2004 2:28:05 PM (3671 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/29/2004 3:26:56 PM (3607 views)
Bottom Line - David Bloys/TX
5/29/2004 6:49:00 PM (3723 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/29/2004 4:46:33 PM (3714 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 8:35:16 PM (3698 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/30/2004 2:52:13 AM (3696 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/29/2004 6:22:28 PM (3583 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys/TX
5/29/2004 7:48:48 PM (3619 views)

I don't assume this at all Judy. In fact, I assume that you are doing just what you said you are doing, trying to make a living.

You are not a Charlatan, neither are you an abstractor. You may be some day, maybe even a great one.

Do you remember when you first came on this site a couple of months ago? You were asking for a mentor. You knew then that you were not qualified to accept orders as an abstractor. You knew that you needed help and you made an honest appeal here for that help.

You may not believe me now but I was considering offering you whatever help I could in a private email. I checked out your web site and found your claim of being not only a abstractor, but an insured abstractor with many years of experience. Curious to me why you would so honestly and humbly seek a mentor here on SOT while telling potential clients that you were in fact already an insured abstractor with many years of experience. So I checked out your listing here on SOT only to find that here you not only claimed all the above but added "a coach to abstractors".

If you were all of these things you obviously did not need a mentor. In fact, wouldn't "a coach to abstractors" be very similar to a mentor? So I never sent that email offer.

I watched to when you posted that you were just trying to make a living and did not intend to take business from anyone. I believed you were sincere but couldn't see the logic of your statement. Where did you think your clients would be coming from? The clients we serve are already being served by someone. Most likely someone with years of experience and satifactory service. What would you offer these clients that they were not already being given? The living you were trying to make could only come from the living someone else had built over many years. You cannot offer the same service the experienced abstractors are already giving. Eventually, no matter how well intentioned and honest you may be you will be forced to either make claims you cannot back up or offer undercut fees to compensate for your lack of experience.

My advice to you had I sent that email would have been to either gain the experience you need by working for an experienced abstractor, title company or attorney. If this was not an option you might have done document retrieval or data acquisition until you gained enough experience to feel comfortable doing a few of the less demanding searches if you let your client know in advance that you were inexperienced. Your clients might have even helped you if they knew in advance that you had really never done this type of work before.

Yes, there always be new people claiming to be abstractors. They will come and they will go. I've seen many over the years. The ones who stay are usually the ones who treat their clients honestly and professionally. The ones who go leave in their wake confusion about what an abstractor is and the service we provide. Clients are often left with large lawsuits resulting from their belief in a new "abstractor" who wasn't an abstractor and now never will be.

Now, the new people claiming to be qualified abstractors need not even be in the same county as the experienced abstractors. They don't even have to be in the same country according to the offshore outsource companies. After all, they are just "new abstractors" too. Just trying to make a living and not wanting to take business away from anyone.

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Re: Bottom Line - monica froese/ME
5/29/2004 9:56:04 PM (3572 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/30/2004 12:46:59 AM (3609 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/30/2004 3:58:09 AM (3640 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Bill Elliott/NC
6/5/2004 4:37:09 PM (3560 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - kevin ahern/CT
5/29/2004 6:44:12 AM (3661 views)

I know it is called Source of Title but... - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/27/2004 10:09:38 PM (1995 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Slade Smith/OH
5/28/2004 2:02:23 AM (4687 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/28/2004 12:12:10 PM (3726 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 10:22:57 AM (3665 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - kevin ahern/CT
5/29/2004 6:46:13 AM (3644 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/29/2004 6:25:19 PM (3468 views)

watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - monica froese/ME
5/27/2004 9:28:39 PM (1809 views)
Re: watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - Jay Duncan
5/27/2004 9:35:44 PM (3390 views)
Re: watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - monica froese/ME
5/27/2004 10:03:58 PM (3377 views)
Re: watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 8:34:32 AM (3383 views)

WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Cleofi Blass/NJ
5/27/2004 7:46:47 AM (2052 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Jay Duncan
5/27/2004 8:56:37 AM (3677 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - David Bloys/TX
5/27/2004 9:43:31 AM (3486 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/27/2004 11:27:51 AM (3577 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/27/2004 10:55:17 PM (3495 views)
Nothing - IMHO - David Nixon/MA
5/27/2004 11:44:26 AM (3559 views)
Re: Nothing - IMHO - Jay Duncan
5/27/2004 3:00:02 PM (3574 views)
Re: Nothing - IMHO - Angelica DelliCarpini/IN
5/27/2004 9:49:57 PM (3340 views)
David a reminder? - Len Page/MA
5/30/2004 3:16:07 AM (3460 views)
Re: David a reminder? - David Nixon/MA
6/2/2004 1:09:57 PM (3289 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/27/2004 4:57:18 PM (3406 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - kevin ahern/CT
5/27/2004 7:15:05 PM (3394 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Angelica DelliCarpini/IN
5/27/2004 9:47:45 PM (3426 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/27/2004 10:05:28 PM (3426 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/28/2004 2:31:42 PM (3443 views)
Re: Hey Kurt............ - Loretta Reed/MD
5/29/2004 8:13:14 AM (3452 views)
Re: Hey Kurt......One more thing...... - Loretta Reed/MD
5/29/2004 8:16:03 AM (3450 views)
Re: WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - MARC DAVIS/NY
5/31/2004 4:17:13 PM (3391 views)

HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Abstractor Conference
5/24/2004 9:02:57 PM (2085 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - monica froese/ME
5/24/2004 9:27:04 PM (3402 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Jay Duncan
5/24/2004 10:11:42 PM (3434 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/25/2004 5:35:19 PM (3364 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Robert Franco/OH
5/25/2004 5:42:03 PM (3489 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Jay Duncan/MO
5/25/2004 6:23:28 PM (3469 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Jessica Marshall/NY
5/25/2004 8:35:09 PM (3423 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Jay Duncan
5/25/2004 11:53:06 PM (3449 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/26/2004 5:59:01 AM (3530 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Robert Franco/OH
5/26/2004 10:26:29 AM (3548 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/26/2004 9:16:23 PM (3463 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Jay Duncan
5/27/2004 8:43:44 AM (3496 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - kevin ahern/CT
5/26/2004 6:36:25 AM (3482 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Robert Franco/OH
5/26/2004 10:34:46 AM (3434 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - David Bloys
5/26/2004 3:29:37 PM (3448 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Robert Franco/OH
5/26/2004 4:59:29 PM (3448 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - David Bloys
5/26/2004 6:24:04 PM (3559 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Robert Franco/OH
5/27/2004 11:21:12 AM (3463 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - kevin ahern/CT
5/27/2004 7:10:22 PM (3429 views)
Re: HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/27/2004 9:56:31 PM (3329 views)




happy b-day doug - monica froese/ME
5/22/2004 6:48:29 PM (1416 views)

Hey there Slade! - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/22/2004 5:33:38 PM (1863 views)
Searching by name - Slade Smith/GA
5/23/2004 12:22:27 AM (3687 views)
Re: Searching by name - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/23/2004 11:48:09 AM (3536 views)
Re: Searching by name - Jay Duncan
5/23/2004 11:30:32 PM (3702 views)
Re: Searching by name - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/24/2004 12:54:06 AM (3566 views)

FYI >>>> - MARC DAVIS/NY
5/22/2004 12:51:32 PM (1546 views)

digital camera copies - Susan Raynard/MA
5/22/2004 9:12:09 AM (1879 views)
Re: digital camera copies - MARC DAVIS/NY
5/22/2004 12:39:13 PM (3598 views)
Re: digital camera copies - Susan Raynard/MA
5/22/2004 2:30:00 PM (3750 views)
Re: digital camera copies - Alan Voorheis
5/22/2004 2:28:07 PM (3614 views)
Re: digital camera copies - Susan Raynard/MA
5/22/2004 2:35:59 PM (3655 views)
Re: digital camera copies - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/22/2004 5:16:23 PM (3684 views)
Re: digital camera copies - monica froese/ME
5/22/2004 6:56:03 PM (3727 views)
Re: digital camera copies - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/23/2004 11:54:36 AM (3731 views)
Susan a ? - Len Page/MA
5/30/2004 3:12:50 AM (3662 views)

not workin' tonight - monica froese/ME
5/21/2004 9:05:22 PM (1849 views)
Re: not workin' tonight - Scott Perry/PA
5/21/2004 10:08:22 PM (3549 views)
OH MY GOODNESS - Loretta Reed/MD
5/21/2004 10:41:17 PM (3701 views)
Re: not workin' tonight - Melissa Strang/ME
5/22/2004 4:53:26 PM (3690 views)
Re: not workin' tonight - kevin ahern/CT
5/22/2004 7:31:56 AM (3566 views)
Re: not workin' tonight - MARC DAVIS/NY
5/22/2004 12:42:01 PM (3635 views)
Re: not workin' tonight - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/22/2004 3:40:25 PM (3565 views)
Re: not workin' tonight - Slade Smith/GA
5/23/2004 1:02:43 AM (3608 views)
Re: not workin' tonight - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/23/2004 9:56:20 PM (3652 views)
Re: not workin' tonight - monica froese/ME
5/24/2004 6:48:47 PM (3502 views)

p.s.... - monica froese/ME
5/21/2004 8:08:24 PM (1466 views)

Chesapeake Title - kevin ahern/CT
5/21/2004 7:50:30 AM (2056 views)
Re: Chesapeake Title - Jay Duncan/MO
5/21/2004 4:18:12 PM (3938 views)
Re: Chesapeake Title - kevin ahern/CT
5/22/2004 7:27:40 AM (3720 views)

IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - MARC DAVIS/NY
5/21/2004 6:15:45 AM (2061 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - Phyllis Agan/GA
5/21/2004 8:53:05 AM (3831 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/24/2004 3:31:23 PM (3915 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - Jay Duncan
5/24/2004 5:35:45 PM (3719 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/25/2004 1:15:13 PM (3707 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - Jay Duncan
5/25/2004 2:18:47 PM (3791 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - MARC DAVIS/NY
5/31/2004 4:45:02 PM (3861 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - James Guill/VA
5/29/2004 6:15:59 PM (3826 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - David Bloys
5/29/2004 8:23:07 PM (3874 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - MARC DAVIS/NY
5/31/2004 4:40:02 PM (3713 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - Len Page/MA
5/30/2004 3:38:57 AM (3721 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - MARC DAVIS/NY
5/31/2004 4:28:13 PM (3835 views)
Re: IS THIS INDUSTRY DRYING UP ??? - John OConnor/IL
6/2/2004 4:53:24 PM (3636 views)

variations...on a theme...or vacations - monica froese/ME
5/19/2004 9:04:35 PM (1848 views)
Re: variations...on a theme...or vacations - Loretta Reed/MD
5/19/2004 9:41:01 PM (5447 views)
Re: variations...on a theme...or vacations - monica froese/ME
5/19/2004 10:22:12 PM (3700 views)

i am now a criminal... - monica froese/ME
5/18/2004 8:25:21 PM (1998 views)
Re: i am now a criminal... - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/18/2004 8:38:10 PM (3706 views)
Re: i am now a criminal... - Scott Perry/PA
5/18/2004 10:35:45 PM (3615 views)
Re: i am now a criminal... - monica froese/ME
5/19/2004 12:14:53 AM (3612 views)


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