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HTML - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
6/3/2004 12:27:20 PM (1853 views)
Re: HTML - Slade Smith/OH
6/3/2004 12:52:27 PM (3150 views)

Listing order - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/3/2004 1:56:39 AM (1717 views)
Re: Listing order - Robert Franco/OH
6/3/2004 11:40:47 AM (3112 views)

Best Wishes On Conference - Jan Forster/NC
6/2/2004 9:21:09 PM (2050 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - monica froese/ME
6/2/2004 10:16:02 PM (3338 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Judy Nisonger/CA
6/2/2004 11:53:13 PM (3423 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Slade Smith/GA
6/2/2004 11:57:46 PM (3384 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Loretta Reed/MD
6/3/2004 8:13:44 AM (3301 views)
Re: Best Wishes (one more thing) - Loretta Reed/MD
6/3/2004 8:17:40 AM (3248 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Judy Nisonger/CA
6/3/2004 3:04:31 PM (3436 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Robert Franco/OH
6/3/2004 11:11:39 AM (3332 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Bill Elliott/NC
6/4/2004 6:33:01 PM (3318 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Loretta Reed/MD
6/4/2004 7:01:53 PM (3237 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Bill Elliott/NC
6/4/2004 7:24:18 PM (3311 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Loretta Reed/MD
6/6/2004 10:32:58 AM (3301 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Douglas Gallant/OH
6/6/2004 3:01:34 PM (3162 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Bill Elliott/NC
6/6/2004 5:52:17 PM (3193 views)
Re: Best Wishes On Conference - Robert Franco/OH
6/6/2004 10:36:55 PM (3345 views)

Advice? - David Nixon/MA
6/2/2004 10:20:30 AM (1884 views)
Re: Advice? - Robert Franco/OH
6/2/2004 2:40:32 PM (3263 views)
Re: Advice? - Jay Duncan
6/2/2004 3:11:37 PM (3165 views)
Re: Advice? - Judy Nisonger/CA
6/2/2004 4:47:55 PM (3198 views)
Re: Advice? - Robert Franco/OH
6/2/2004 5:35:50 PM (3167 views)
Re: Advice? - Judy Nisonger/CA
6/2/2004 11:32:59 PM (3125 views)

Re: Conference - Loretta Reed/MD
6/2/2004 7:51:22 AM (1722 views)
Re: Conference - Robert Franco/OH
6/2/2004 10:09:08 AM (3111 views)


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E&O Insurance - Jessica Marshall/NY
6/1/2004 10:22:15 PM (1723 views)
Re: E&O Insurance - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/2/2004 12:12:16 AM (3221 views)

memorial day.., - monica froese/ME
5/31/2004 12:36:48 AM (1381 views)

Where is Scott? - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/30/2004 3:46:43 PM (1421 views)

The NALTEA Solution, cont... - Robert Franco/OH
5/30/2004 12:49:13 PM (1800 views)
Re: The NALTEA Solution, cont... - Len Page/MA
5/30/2004 10:31:09 PM (3272 views)
Re: The NALTEA Solution, cont... - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2004 5:42:35 PM (3263 views)

Just to set the record straight! - Len Page/MA
5/30/2004 4:17:55 AM (1991 views)
Re: Just to set the record straight! - Kristi Lee/NE
6/2/2004 12:41:26 PM (3489 views)

Data Retrieval - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/28/2004 7:41:12 PM (1875 views)
Re: Data Retrieval - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 11:10:16 PM (3488 views)
Re: Data Retrieval - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/29/2004 5:55:29 AM (3435 views)
Re: Data Retrieval - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/30/2004 7:44:16 PM (3454 views)
Re: Data Retrieval - Judy Nisonger/CA
6/1/2004 4:49:14 AM (3384 views)

not working tonight...part 2 - monica froese/ME
5/28/2004 4:51:57 PM (1800 views)
Re: not working tonight...part 2 - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/28/2004 6:54:00 PM (3195 views)

THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 3:15:35 AM (1876 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION, part 1 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 9:41:10 AM (3444 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 2 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 9:56:13 AM (3482 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 10:18:33 AM (3319 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - David Bloys
5/28/2004 11:43:16 AM (3473 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 12:36:02 PM (3346 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - David Bloys
5/28/2004 2:31:42 PM (3415 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:14:04 PM (3478 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 3:21:56 PM (3323 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/28/2004 4:08:12 PM (3366 views)
Re: My small comments - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/30/2004 8:00:51 PM (3450 views)
Re: My small comments - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2004 5:46:00 PM (3394 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 11:03:17 AM (3340 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 12:57:23 PM (3430 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 1:37:03 PM (3422 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 2:55:15 PM (3479 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:12:22 PM (3509 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 3:32:57 PM (3362 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:56:08 PM (3442 views)
Bottom Line - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 6:05:20 PM (3348 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 9:56:31 AM (3284 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/29/2004 12:24:43 PM (3302 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 1:52:47 PM (3329 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Jay Duncan
5/29/2004 2:28:05 PM (3245 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/29/2004 3:26:56 PM (3173 views)
Bottom Line - David Bloys/TX
5/29/2004 6:49:00 PM (3284 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/29/2004 4:46:33 PM (3270 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 8:35:16 PM (3286 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/30/2004 2:52:13 AM (3234 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/29/2004 6:22:28 PM (3178 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys/TX
5/29/2004 7:48:48 PM (3184 views)

I don't assume this at all Judy. In fact, I assume that you are doing just what you said you are doing, trying to make a living.

You are not a Charlatan, neither are you an abstractor. You may be some day, maybe even a great one.

Do you remember when you first came on this site a couple of months ago? You were asking for a mentor. You knew then that you were not qualified to accept orders as an abstractor. You knew that you needed help and you made an honest appeal here for that help.

You may not believe me now but I was considering offering you whatever help I could in a private email. I checked out your web site and found your claim of being not only a abstractor, but an insured abstractor with many years of experience. Curious to me why you would so honestly and humbly seek a mentor here on SOT while telling potential clients that you were in fact already an insured abstractor with many years of experience. So I checked out your listing here on SOT only to find that here you not only claimed all the above but added "a coach to abstractors".

If you were all of these things you obviously did not need a mentor. In fact, wouldn't "a coach to abstractors" be very similar to a mentor? So I never sent that email offer.

I watched to when you posted that you were just trying to make a living and did not intend to take business from anyone. I believed you were sincere but couldn't see the logic of your statement. Where did you think your clients would be coming from? The clients we serve are already being served by someone. Most likely someone with years of experience and satifactory service. What would you offer these clients that they were not already being given? The living you were trying to make could only come from the living someone else had built over many years. You cannot offer the same service the experienced abstractors are already giving. Eventually, no matter how well intentioned and honest you may be you will be forced to either make claims you cannot back up or offer undercut fees to compensate for your lack of experience.

My advice to you had I sent that email would have been to either gain the experience you need by working for an experienced abstractor, title company or attorney. If this was not an option you might have done document retrieval or data acquisition until you gained enough experience to feel comfortable doing a few of the less demanding searches if you let your client know in advance that you were inexperienced. Your clients might have even helped you if they knew in advance that you had really never done this type of work before.

Yes, there always be new people claiming to be abstractors. They will come and they will go. I've seen many over the years. The ones who stay are usually the ones who treat their clients honestly and professionally. The ones who go leave in their wake confusion about what an abstractor is and the service we provide. Clients are often left with large lawsuits resulting from their belief in a new "abstractor" who wasn't an abstractor and now never will be.

Now, the new people claiming to be qualified abstractors need not even be in the same county as the experienced abstractors. They don't even have to be in the same country according to the offshore outsource companies. After all, they are just "new abstractors" too. Just trying to make a living and not wanting to take business away from anyone.

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Re: Bottom Line - monica froese/ME
5/29/2004 9:56:04 PM (3134 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/30/2004 12:46:59 AM (3177 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/30/2004 3:58:09 AM (3214 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Bill Elliott/NC
6/5/2004 4:37:09 PM (3150 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - kevin ahern/CT
5/29/2004 6:44:12 AM (3249 views)

I know it is called Source of Title but... - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/27/2004 10:09:38 PM (1871 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Slade Smith/OH
5/28/2004 2:02:23 AM (4184 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/28/2004 12:12:10 PM (3284 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 10:22:57 AM (3240 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - kevin ahern/CT
5/29/2004 6:46:13 AM (3223 views)
Re: I know it is called Source of Title but... - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/29/2004 6:25:19 PM (3078 views)

watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - monica froese/ME
5/27/2004 9:28:39 PM (1706 views)
Re: watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - Jay Duncan
5/27/2004 9:35:44 PM (3000 views)
Re: watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - monica froese/ME
5/27/2004 10:03:58 PM (2954 views)
Re: watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 8:34:32 AM (2960 views)


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