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Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 10:32:04 AM (1870 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/3/2004 11:17:53 AM (3529 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 11:21:19 AM (3508 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/3/2004 2:01:17 PM (3510 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 6:36:19 PM (3484 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/4/2004 10:08:24 AM (3396 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/4/2004 11:39:15 AM (3454 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/4/2004 1:20:04 PM (3497 views)
Kurts Training!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 1:06:10 PM (3503 views)
Re: Kurts Training!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/6/2004 4:53:02 PM (3511 views)
Who CAME after you? - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 9:27:34 AM (3395 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Loretta Reed/MD
7/7/2004 9:35:04 AM (3503 views)
MD has some Crazy Laws - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 10:45:15 AM (3526 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 1:05:22 PM (3345 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Jay Duncan
7/7/2004 1:18:50 PM (3437 views)
Re: Kurts Training!!! - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/7/2004 5:52:19 PM (3508 views)
Re: Incorporate - Robert Franco/OH
7/7/2004 10:24:47 AM (3363 views)
Re: Incorporate - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 10:41:35 AM (3545 views)
Re: Incorporate - Loretta Reed/MD
7/7/2004 1:40:02 PM (3395 views)
Re: Incorporate - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 3:23:05 PM (3383 views)
Re: Incorporate - Amanda Packey/FL
7/7/2004 3:33:33 PM (3443 views)
Thank You Amanda!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 4:02:16 PM (3315 views)
Re: Thank You Amanda!!! - Amanda Packey/FL
7/7/2004 4:08:18 PM (3454 views)
Re: Incorporate - kevin ahern/CT
7/8/2004 7:08:59 AM (3360 views)
Re: Incorporate - Robert Franco/OH
7/8/2004 2:38:24 PM (3298 views)
Re: Incorporate (PA) - Annette Dorty/PA
7/8/2004 4:08:32 PM (3324 views)
Re: Incorporate (PA) - kevin ahern/CT
7/9/2004 5:27:30 AM (3389 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Robert Franco/OH
7/4/2004 2:21:30 PM (3322 views)

I hate to get involved in this conversation, but I think it is an important topic.  "Newbie Bashing" is not a good thing, and I don't want to blame the "newbies" for some of the problems in the industry - because they don't know the problems that are being caused by their lack of training.  I believe that there are a lot of well intentioned abstractors, very new to the field, who were led down this path by someone else.

The best advice for someone who wants to be an independent abstractor is to work for a title company or attorney for a couple of years (and that may not be enough).  The only way to become a good abstractor is to gain experience... the only way to gain expereince without causing a lot of problems and incurring a huge amount of liability is to have someone knowledgeable in the field review your work and explain "WHY" you should or shouldn't show certian items.  Good training is extremely important!!

For example... when you are searching a property that recently came out of foreclosure with liens still showing open you have to know when lis pendens applies.  Some liens may survive the suit, others may be extiguished. When you have a deed that wasn't notarized properly, what is the statutory requirement that will cure the defect?  There are so many things that you really can't be prepared for, unless you have come across them before and had someone there to properly explain them when they do arise.  That takes a lot of time - and a good teacher.

It is easy for someone to say, "just find the deed and look for any liens", but there is so much more to it than that.  As rates begin to rise and more forclosures are filed, many cliams will be generated.  It is going to be a scary time for a lot of abstractors and insurers.

I have also spoken with a few E&O insurers regarding discounts for NALTEA members and the answer was always the same... "there are a lot of new abstractors that haven't been properly trained entering the field."  This is ONE of the causes of the higer rates, but I'm sure there are other forces at work also.

Source of Title gets a lot of e-mail asking "how do I become an abstractor?" and I always tell them the same thing - get a job with a title company or attorney that has sufficent resources to train you properly.  Anyone who wants to be an abstractor, without the necessary training, can get into the field, but they should be aware of the requirements of the job and fully understand the liability associated with it.  Missing one mortgage, federal tax lien, life estate, or anything else could cost you your home!  Most of us can't afford to pay a $100,000 claim and the rising E&O rates should be an indication of the liability involved.

A final note:  the Source of Title message forums are for everyone, newbies and seasoned abstractors alike, but newbies won't always like the responses they get.  They shouldn't be taken as "hostile" or "bashing" but as a wanring that there is a lot of responsibility involved with abstracting.  Peoples homes, the single largest investment they make, are riding on your ability to perform your duties as an abstractor.  Those who have been trained for years before becoming independent are frustrated with the abstractors that don't think they need to be properly trained or aren't aware of the training that they didn't get.  Some of them simply do not realize how much they do not know.

Best to everyone,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Newbie bashing - James Guill/VA
7/4/2004 3:56:18 PM (3308 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/4/2004 5:11:04 PM (3262 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/5/2004 11:20:11 AM (3321 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/5/2004 1:49:35 PM (3345 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/5/2004 5:26:12 PM (3306 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/5/2004 5:39:52 PM (3357 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Scott Perry/PA
7/5/2004 9:45:45 PM (3277 views)
Keep BUSH IN!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 12:46:19 PM (3288 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Robert Franco/OH
7/6/2004 1:32:32 PM (3168 views)
Rising Rates! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 2:08:43 PM (3176 views)
Re: Rising Rates! - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/6/2004 6:01:17 PM (4360 views)
Re: Rising Rates! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/7/2004 7:38:53 PM (3044 views)
Unemployment - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 7:43:12 PM (3292 views)
Re: Unemployment - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/8/2004 11:14:10 AM (3424 views)
Re: Unemployment - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/8/2004 11:43:00 AM (3084 views)
Re: Unemployment - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/8/2004 11:00:17 PM (3174 views)

HOT LIST... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/2/2004 10:42:01 PM (1414 views)

Happy 4th!!! - Ellen/MO
7/2/2004 4:39:43 PM (1807 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
7/2/2004 5:06:12 PM (3370 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/2/2004 5:45:08 PM (3321 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/2/2004 6:15:03 PM (3273 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Jay Duncan
7/2/2004 7:52:33 PM (3282 views)

ATC - Accelerated Title Co - Teresa Beeman/NC
7/2/2004 10:24:33 AM (2022 views)
Re: ATC - Accelerated Title Co - Barbara Bennett/IN
7/2/2004 2:56:20 PM (3396 views)

to the best contact person, happy b-day - monica froese/ME
7/1/2004 10:20:23 PM (1561 views)




Order your NALTEA Business Cards for your... - National Assoc of Land Title Examiners and Abstrac/OH
7/1/2004 7:32:09 PM (1560 views)

National Equity Services - Michelle/NJ
7/1/2004 7:26:55 PM (2108 views)
Re: National Equity Services - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/1/2004 7:49:38 PM (3677 views)

Service Link out of PA? - Douglas Johnson/MN
7/1/2004 4:48:55 PM (2140 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Loretta Reed/MD
7/1/2004 5:40:03 PM (3861 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/1/2004 6:06:46 PM (3816 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Robert Franco/OH
7/1/2004 6:17:57 PM (3812 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Douglas Johnson/MN
7/2/2004 1:20:34 PM (3625 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Ken Ungarsohn/NJ
7/16/2009 10:39:19 AM (7325 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
7/2/2004 2:01:11 PM (3719 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/2/2004 6:17:23 PM (3715 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
7/6/2004 12:27:33 PM (3777 views)
Too bad...their loss!! - Scott Perry/PA
7/6/2004 10:16:23 PM (3642 views)
Re: Service Link out of PA? - Patricia Palmer/PA
7/7/2004 5:35:43 PM (3852 views)

Abstractor Associations - National Assoc of Land Title Examiners and Abstrac/OH
6/30/2004 5:58:21 PM (2551 views)
Re: Abstractor Associations - Angelica DelliCarpini/IN
6/30/2004 7:56:55 PM (3573 views)
Re: Abstractor Associations - Jay Duncan/MO
6/30/2004 9:17:08 PM (3462 views)
Re: Abstractor Associations - Jay Duncan/MO
6/30/2004 9:33:33 PM (4421 views)

?? Pricing the mileage ?? - Patty Bolden/TX
6/30/2004 4:29:58 PM (1981 views)
Re: ?? Pricing the mileage ?? - Patty Bolden/TX
7/5/2004 11:20:25 AM (3390 views)
Re: ?? Pricing the mileage ?? - Robert Franco/OH
7/6/2004 3:29:09 PM (3471 views)

NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TITLE PROS - julie jasiunas/WI
6/30/2004 12:42:13 PM (2053 views)
Re: NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TITLE PROS - Amanda Packey/FL
6/30/2004 3:58:00 PM (3637 views)
Re: NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TITLE PROS - Scott Fisher/TN
6/30/2004 6:20:12 PM (3441 views)
Re: NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TITLE PROS - monica froese/ME
6/30/2004 9:51:39 PM (3472 views)
Re: NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TITLE PROS - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/1/2004 1:40:28 AM (3803 views)
Re: NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TITLE PROS - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/2/2004 9:38:23 PM (3644 views)
Re: NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TITLE PROS - monica froese/ME
7/2/2004 9:50:35 PM (3394 views)
Unsolicitated Facsimiles - R M/NJ
6/30/2004 10:21:50 PM (4507 views)
Re: Unsolicitated Facsimiles - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/2/2004 9:43:36 PM (3403 views)

PRICING - L ROLAND/CA
6/26/2004 12:48:44 PM (1995 views)
Re: PRICING - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/26/2004 2:46:19 PM (3630 views)
Re: PRICING - Robert Franco/OH
6/28/2004 10:01:34 AM (3613 views)
Re: PRICING - kevin ahern/CT
6/28/2004 6:03:59 AM (3494 views)
Re: PRICING - L ROLAND/CA
6/28/2004 9:35:52 PM (3497 views)
Re: PRICING - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/28/2004 11:09:59 PM (3479 views)
SET THE PRICE! - Kurt deVries/FL
6/29/2004 12:13:32 PM (3602 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/29/2004 8:50:09 PM (3579 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Loretta Reed/MD
6/30/2004 10:09:00 AM (3584 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Kurt deVries/FL
6/30/2004 10:36:53 AM (3491 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Loretta Reed/MD
6/30/2004 11:29:01 AM (3542 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Tracey/NJ
6/30/2004 4:37:44 PM (3472 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/1/2004 9:38:25 AM (3556 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Tracey/NJ
7/1/2004 11:39:38 AM (3492 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/1/2004 2:23:37 PM (3400 views)
Re: SET THE PRICE! - Tracey/NJ
7/1/2004 7:04:24 PM (3505 views)
Monmouth Tracy - Kurt deVries/FL
7/2/2004 11:10:39 AM (3493 views)
Re: Monmouth Tracy - Tracey/NJ
7/2/2004 4:36:21 PM (3455 views)

Companies - Teresa Beeman/NC
6/25/2004 1:34:39 PM (2071 views)
Re: Companies - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/26/2004 12:53:19 AM (3445 views)
Re: Companies - Tammy Elliott/WA
6/26/2004 4:14:20 AM (3425 views)

RE: HOT LIST - Loretta Reed/MD
6/25/2004 10:31:53 AM (1641 views)

6/25...Happy B-Day to...... - R M/NJ
6/25/2004 10:25:29 AM (1991 views)
Re: 6/25...Happy B-Day to...... - Robert Franco/OH
6/25/2004 11:03:53 AM (3642 views)
Re: 6/25...Happy B-Day to...... - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: 6/25...Happy B-Day to...... - Douglas Gallant/OH
6/25/2004 4:28:57 PM (3459 views)
Re: 6/25...Happy B-Day to...... - Melissa Strang/ME
6/25/2004 4:29:22 PM (3427 views)
Re: 6/25...Happy B-Day to...... - Patty Bolden/TX
6/26/2004 3:40:11 PM (3438 views)


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