David, you have very little crdibility left with me. Now you are not even sure that it was Jay who said that they wanted to run their own seminars. Yet earlier you were willing to drag Jay's name through the muck. Do you make it a practice to tarnish a person's reputation without getting your facts straight? Your 'I might be mistaken about who said it, but I know what I heard' is about as weak as it gets. Like I said before, you owe Jay an apology.
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