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[+] Advice? - David Nixon/MA (5 replies)
6/2/2004 10:20:30 AM (2023 views)

[+] Re: Conference - Loretta Reed/MD (1 reply)
6/2/2004 7:51:22 AM (1850 views)

[+] E&O Insurance - Jessica Marshall/NY (1 reply)
6/1/2004 10:22:15 PM (1867 views)

memorial day.., - monica froese/ME
5/31/2004 12:36:48 AM (1482 views)

Where is Scott? - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/30/2004 3:46:43 PM (1541 views)




[+] The NALTEA Solution, cont... - Robert Franco/OH (2 replies)
5/30/2004 12:49:13 PM (1955 views)

[+] Just to set the record straight! - Len Page/MA (1 reply)
5/30/2004 4:17:55 AM (2161 views)

[+] Data Retrieval - Judy Nisonger/CA (4 replies)
5/28/2004 7:41:12 PM (2046 views)

[+] not working tonight...part 2 - monica froese/ME (1 reply)
5/28/2004 4:51:57 PM (1914 views)

[-] THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys (35 replies)
5/28/2004 3:15:35 AM (2005 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION, part 1 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 9:41:10 AM (3960 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 2 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 9:56:13 AM (4004 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 10:18:33 AM (3838 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - David Bloys
5/28/2004 11:43:16 AM (4025 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 12:36:02 PM (3871 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - David Bloys
5/28/2004 2:31:42 PM (3965 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:14:04 PM (3964 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 3:21:56 PM (3819 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION part 3 - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/28/2004 4:08:12 PM (3868 views)
Re: My small comments - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/30/2004 8:00:51 PM (3946 views)
Re: My small comments - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2004 5:46:00 PM (3916 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 11:03:17 AM (3835 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 12:57:23 PM (3963 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 1:37:03 PM (3938 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 2:55:15 PM (3935 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:12:22 PM (4028 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - David Bloys
5/28/2004 3:32:57 PM (3857 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - Robert Franco/OH
5/28/2004 3:56:08 PM (3953 views)
Bottom Line - Jay Duncan
5/28/2004 6:05:20 PM (3843 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 9:56:31 AM (3795 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/29/2004 12:24:43 PM (3814 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 1:52:47 PM (3879 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Jay Duncan
5/29/2004 2:28:05 PM (3763 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/29/2004 3:26:56 PM (3696 views)
Bottom Line - David Bloys/TX
5/29/2004 6:49:00 PM (3810 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/29/2004 4:46:33 PM (3800 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/29/2004 8:35:16 PM (3791 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Slade Smith/OH
5/30/2004 2:52:13 AM (3780 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/29/2004 6:22:28 PM (3676 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys/TX
5/29/2004 7:48:48 PM (3704 views)

I don't assume this at all Judy. In fact, I assume that you are doing just what you said you are doing, trying to make a living.

You are not a Charlatan, neither are you an abstractor. You may be some day, maybe even a great one.

Do you remember when you first came on this site a couple of months ago? You were asking for a mentor. You knew then that you were not qualified to accept orders as an abstractor. You knew that you needed help and you made an honest appeal here for that help.

You may not believe me now but I was considering offering you whatever help I could in a private email. I checked out your web site and found your claim of being not only a abstractor, but an insured abstractor with many years of experience. Curious to me why you would so honestly and humbly seek a mentor here on SOT while telling potential clients that you were in fact already an insured abstractor with many years of experience. So I checked out your listing here on SOT only to find that here you not only claimed all the above but added "a coach to abstractors".

If you were all of these things you obviously did not need a mentor. In fact, wouldn't "a coach to abstractors" be very similar to a mentor? So I never sent that email offer.

I watched to when you posted that you were just trying to make a living and did not intend to take business from anyone. I believed you were sincere but couldn't see the logic of your statement. Where did you think your clients would be coming from? The clients we serve are already being served by someone. Most likely someone with years of experience and satifactory service. What would you offer these clients that they were not already being given? The living you were trying to make could only come from the living someone else had built over many years. You cannot offer the same service the experienced abstractors are already giving. Eventually, no matter how well intentioned and honest you may be you will be forced to either make claims you cannot back up or offer undercut fees to compensate for your lack of experience.

My advice to you had I sent that email would have been to either gain the experience you need by working for an experienced abstractor, title company or attorney. If this was not an option you might have done document retrieval or data acquisition until you gained enough experience to feel comfortable doing a few of the less demanding searches if you let your client know in advance that you were inexperienced. Your clients might have even helped you if they knew in advance that you had really never done this type of work before.

Yes, there always be new people claiming to be abstractors. They will come and they will go. I've seen many over the years. The ones who stay are usually the ones who treat their clients honestly and professionally. The ones who go leave in their wake confusion about what an abstractor is and the service we provide. Clients are often left with large lawsuits resulting from their belief in a new "abstractor" who wasn't an abstractor and now never will be.

Now, the new people claiming to be qualified abstractors need not even be in the same county as the experienced abstractors. They don't even have to be in the same country according to the offshore outsource companies. After all, they are just "new abstractors" too. Just trying to make a living and not wanting to take business away from anyone.

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Re: Bottom Line - monica froese/ME
5/29/2004 9:56:04 PM (3661 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/30/2004 12:46:59 AM (3702 views)
Re: Bottom Line - David Bloys
5/30/2004 3:58:09 AM (3739 views)
Re: Bottom Line - Bill Elliott/NC
6/5/2004 4:37:09 PM (3652 views)
Re: THE NALTEA SOLUTION - kevin ahern/CT
5/29/2004 6:44:12 AM (3740 views)

[+] I know it is called Source of Title but... - Judy Nisonger/CA (5 replies)
5/27/2004 10:09:38 PM (2018 views)

[+] watermarks, in search of the true meaning.. - monica froese/ME (3 replies)
5/27/2004 9:28:39 PM (1844 views)

[+] WHATS WRONG WITH NATIONAL COMPANIES? - Cleofi Blass/NJ (17 replies)
5/27/2004 7:46:47 AM (2102 views)

[+] HELP WANTED ON THE CONFERENCE MESSAGE BOARD - Abstractor Conference (19 replies)
5/24/2004 9:02:57 PM (2131 views)

happy b-day doug - monica froese/ME
5/22/2004 6:48:29 PM (1461 views)


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