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Assignments - Deeann Sligh/SC
7/8/2004 2:14:09 PM (1655 views)
Re: Assignments - Kurt deVries/FL
7/8/2004 2:46:53 PM (3422 views)
Re: Assignments - Jay Duncan
7/8/2004 2:56:29 PM (2412 views)
Re: Assignments - David Bloys
7/8/2004 4:58:27 PM (2233 views)
Re: Assignments - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/8/2004 7:04:34 PM (2257 views)
Re: Assignments - Scott Perry/PA
7/8/2004 7:31:13 PM (2365 views)
Re: Assignments - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/8/2004 8:00:15 PM (2305 views)
Re: Assignments - Ellen Malloy/MO
7/11/2004 10:43:58 AM (2247 views)
Re: Assignments - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/11/2004 3:11:04 PM (2256 views)
Re: Assignments - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2004 9:57:12 PM (2255 views)
Re: Assignments - Deeann Sligh/SC
7/12/2004 4:52:11 PM (2241 views)

E & O Insurance - Kurt deVries/FL
7/8/2004 1:26:05 PM (1554 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - James Guill/VA
7/8/2004 1:42:40 PM (2219 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Kurt deVries/FL
7/8/2004 2:43:17 PM (2167 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - kevin ahern/CT
7/10/2004 5:34:02 AM (2177 views)

DOCUMENT RETRIEVAL - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
7/7/2004 9:42:51 AM (1717 views)
Re: DOCUMENT RETRIEVAL - George/VA
7/7/2004 1:22:43 PM (2344 views)
Re: DOCUMENT RETRIEVAL - Jay Duncan
7/7/2004 2:12:13 PM (2408 views)
Re: DOCUMENT RETRIEVAL - Amanda Packey/FL
7/7/2004 3:25:42 PM (2449 views)
Re: DOCUMENT RETRIEVAL - Angelica DelliCarpini/IN
7/8/2004 10:10:07 AM (2371 views)

Out Sourcing... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/7/2004 8:35:51 AM (1625 views)
Re: Out Sourcing... - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/7/2004 10:15:30 AM (2505 views)
Re: Out Sourcing... - Ellen Malloy/MO
7/7/2004 10:42:34 AM (2498 views)
Re: ONLINE DATA - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 12:16:03 PM (2455 views)
Re: ONLINE DATA - James Guill/VA
7/7/2004 10:20:28 PM (2445 views)
Re: ONLINE DATA - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 11:17:01 PM (2394 views)
Re: ONLINE DATA - James Guill/VA
7/7/2004 11:39:31 PM (2390 views)
Re: ONLINE DATA - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/8/2004 12:10:01 AM (2379 views)
Re: ONLINE DATA - James Guill/VA
7/8/2004 1:12:11 AM (2350 views)
Re: ONLINE DATA - James Guill/VA
7/8/2004 1:24:05 AM (2414 views)
Re: Out Sourcing... - Kelli Gorman/TX
7/13/2004 3:36:00 PM (2343 views)
Re: Out Sourcing... - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/13/2004 4:32:05 PM (2402 views)

Collection Agency for Just Abstractors - Angelica DelliCarpini/IN
7/7/2004 2:00:15 AM (1308 views)




Using a laptop to search - Annette Dorty/PA
7/6/2004 3:02:06 PM (2542 views)
Re: Using a laptop to search - Alan Voorheis
7/6/2004 3:44:08 PM (2493 views)
Re: Using a laptop to search - Annette Dorty/PA
7/6/2004 6:48:45 PM (2423 views)
Re: Using a laptop to search - Scott Perry/PA
7/6/2004 10:13:29 PM (2457 views)
Re: Using a laptop to search - Annette Dorty/PA
7/7/2004 1:49:01 PM (2423 views)

Lots of PC on the "Newbies" - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 12:53:53 PM (1180 views)

Brutal Truth gets your attention!!! - Jay Duncan
7/5/2004 2:26:09 PM (1541 views)
Re: Brutal Truth gets your attention!!! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/5/2004 5:07:46 PM (2340 views)
Re: Brutal Truth gets your attention!!! - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/5/2004 6:54:34 PM (2330 views)
Re: Brutal Truth gets your attention!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
7/5/2004 10:28:50 PM (2354 views)

Community College Classes - James Guill/VA
7/4/2004 2:28:49 PM (1412 views)
Re: Community College Classes - Robert Franco/OH
7/4/2004 2:44:03 PM (2358 views)
Re: Community College Classes - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/4/2004 2:52:32 PM (2232 views)
Re: Community College Classes - Loretta Reed/MD
7/4/2004 5:16:33 PM (2257 views)
Re: Community College Classes - James Guill/VA
7/4/2004 5:57:19 PM (2251 views)
Re: Community College Classes - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/4/2004 6:44:37 PM (2221 views)

It is the VETERAN...... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/4/2004 2:16:30 PM (1457 views)
Re: It is the GRUNT - Datalore/PA
7/4/2004 8:48:23 PM (2280 views)

Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 10:32:04 AM (1530 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/3/2004 11:17:53 AM (2233 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 11:21:19 AM (2277 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/3/2004 2:01:17 PM (2224 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 6:36:19 PM (2240 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/4/2004 10:08:24 AM (2147 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/4/2004 11:39:15 AM (2218 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/4/2004 1:20:04 PM (2193 views)
Kurts Training!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 1:06:10 PM (2210 views)
Re: Kurts Training!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/6/2004 4:53:02 PM (2187 views)
Who CAME after you? - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 9:27:34 AM (2162 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Loretta Reed/MD
7/7/2004 9:35:04 AM (2154 views)
MD has some Crazy Laws - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 10:45:15 AM (2208 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 1:05:22 PM (2138 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Jay Duncan
7/7/2004 1:18:50 PM (2150 views)
Re: Kurts Training!!! - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/7/2004 5:52:19 PM (2178 views)
Re: Incorporate - Robert Franco/OH
7/7/2004 10:24:47 AM (2156 views)
Re: Incorporate - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 10:41:35 AM (2177 views)
Re: Incorporate - Loretta Reed/MD
7/7/2004 1:40:02 PM (2108 views)
Re: Incorporate - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 3:23:05 PM (2121 views)
Re: Incorporate - Amanda Packey/FL
7/7/2004 3:33:33 PM (2123 views)
Thank You Amanda!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 4:02:16 PM (2111 views)
Re: Thank You Amanda!!! - Amanda Packey/FL
7/7/2004 4:08:18 PM (2139 views)
Re: Incorporate - kevin ahern/CT
7/8/2004 7:08:59 AM (2077 views)
Re: Incorporate - Robert Franco/OH
7/8/2004 2:38:24 PM (2030 views)
Re: Incorporate (PA) - Annette Dorty/PA
7/8/2004 4:08:32 PM (2051 views)
Re: Incorporate (PA) - kevin ahern/CT
7/9/2004 5:27:30 AM (2103 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Robert Franco/OH
7/4/2004 2:21:30 PM (2080 views)

I hate to get involved in this conversation, but I think it is an important topic.  "Newbie Bashing" is not a good thing, and I don't want to blame the "newbies" for some of the problems in the industry - because they don't know the problems that are being caused by their lack of training.  I believe that there are a lot of well intentioned abstractors, very new to the field, who were led down this path by someone else.

The best advice for someone who wants to be an independent abstractor is to work for a title company or attorney for a couple of years (and that may not be enough).  The only way to become a good abstractor is to gain experience... the only way to gain expereince without causing a lot of problems and incurring a huge amount of liability is to have someone knowledgeable in the field review your work and explain "WHY" you should or shouldn't show certian items.  Good training is extremely important!!

For example... when you are searching a property that recently came out of foreclosure with liens still showing open you have to know when lis pendens applies.  Some liens may survive the suit, others may be extiguished. When you have a deed that wasn't notarized properly, what is the statutory requirement that will cure the defect?  There are so many things that you really can't be prepared for, unless you have come across them before and had someone there to properly explain them when they do arise.  That takes a lot of time - and a good teacher.

It is easy for someone to say, "just find the deed and look for any liens", but there is so much more to it than that.  As rates begin to rise and more forclosures are filed, many cliams will be generated.  It is going to be a scary time for a lot of abstractors and insurers.

I have also spoken with a few E&O insurers regarding discounts for NALTEA members and the answer was always the same... "there are a lot of new abstractors that haven't been properly trained entering the field."  This is ONE of the causes of the higer rates, but I'm sure there are other forces at work also.

Source of Title gets a lot of e-mail asking "how do I become an abstractor?" and I always tell them the same thing - get a job with a title company or attorney that has sufficent resources to train you properly.  Anyone who wants to be an abstractor, without the necessary training, can get into the field, but they should be aware of the requirements of the job and fully understand the liability associated with it.  Missing one mortgage, federal tax lien, life estate, or anything else could cost you your home!  Most of us can't afford to pay a $100,000 claim and the rising E&O rates should be an indication of the liability involved.

A final note:  the Source of Title message forums are for everyone, newbies and seasoned abstractors alike, but newbies won't always like the responses they get.  They shouldn't be taken as "hostile" or "bashing" but as a wanring that there is a lot of responsibility involved with abstracting.  Peoples homes, the single largest investment they make, are riding on your ability to perform your duties as an abstractor.  Those who have been trained for years before becoming independent are frustrated with the abstractors that don't think they need to be properly trained or aren't aware of the training that they didn't get.  Some of them simply do not realize how much they do not know.

Best to everyone,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Newbie bashing - James Guill/VA
7/4/2004 3:56:18 PM (2081 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/4/2004 5:11:04 PM (2024 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/5/2004 11:20:11 AM (2047 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/5/2004 1:49:35 PM (2056 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/5/2004 5:26:12 PM (2020 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/5/2004 5:39:52 PM (2039 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Scott Perry/PA
7/5/2004 9:45:45 PM (1974 views)
Keep BUSH IN!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 12:46:19 PM (2027 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Robert Franco/OH
7/6/2004 1:32:32 PM (1885 views)
Rising Rates! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 2:08:43 PM (1915 views)
Re: Rising Rates! - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/6/2004 6:01:17 PM (2942 views)
Re: Rising Rates! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/7/2004 7:38:53 PM (1876 views)
Unemployment - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 7:43:12 PM (1857 views)
Re: Unemployment - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/8/2004 11:14:10 AM (1851 views)
Re: Unemployment - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/8/2004 11:43:00 AM (1797 views)
Re: Unemployment - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/8/2004 11:00:17 PM (1763 views)

HOT LIST... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/2/2004 10:42:01 PM (1126 views)

Happy 4th!!! - Ellen/MO
7/2/2004 4:39:43 PM (1427 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
7/2/2004 5:06:12 PM (2075 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/2/2004 5:45:08 PM (2038 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/2/2004 6:15:03 PM (1958 views)
Re: Happy 4th!!! - Jay Duncan
7/2/2004 7:52:33 PM (1946 views)

ATC - Accelerated Title Co - Teresa Beeman/NC
7/2/2004 10:24:33 AM (1706 views)
Re: ATC - Accelerated Title Co - Barbara Bennett/IN
7/2/2004 2:56:20 PM (2192 views)

to the best contact person, happy b-day - monica froese/ME
7/1/2004 10:20:23 PM (1266 views)


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