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[+] E & O Insurance - Kurt deVries/FL (3 replies)
7/8/2004 1:26:05 PM (1672 views)

[+] DOCUMENT RETRIEVAL - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ (4 replies)
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[+] Out Sourcing... - Jay Duncan/MO (11 replies)
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Collection Agency for Just Abstractors - Angelica DelliCarpini/IN
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[+] Using a laptop to search - Annette Dorty/PA (4 replies)
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Lots of PC on the "Newbies" - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 12:53:53 PM (1289 views)

[+] Brutal Truth gets your attention!!! - Jay Duncan (3 replies)
7/5/2004 2:26:09 PM (1656 views)

[+] Community College Classes - James Guill/VA (5 replies)
7/4/2004 2:28:49 PM (1540 views)

[+] It is the VETERAN...... - Jay Duncan/MO (1 reply)
7/4/2004 2:16:30 PM (1591 views)

[-] Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA (43 replies)
7/3/2004 10:32:04 AM (1653 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/3/2004 11:17:53 AM (2765 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 11:21:19 AM (2784 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/3/2004 2:01:17 PM (2748 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 6:36:19 PM (2716 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/4/2004 10:08:24 AM (2647 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/4/2004 11:39:15 AM (2696 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/4/2004 1:20:04 PM (2691 views)
Kurts Training!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 1:06:10 PM (2715 views)
Re: Kurts Training!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/6/2004 4:53:02 PM (2744 views)
Who CAME after you? - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 9:27:34 AM (2632 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Loretta Reed/MD
7/7/2004 9:35:04 AM (2716 views)
MD has some Crazy Laws - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 10:45:15 AM (2743 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 1:05:22 PM (2613 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Jay Duncan
7/7/2004 1:18:50 PM (2666 views)
Re: Kurts Training!!! - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/7/2004 5:52:19 PM (2705 views)
Re: Incorporate - Robert Franco/OH
7/7/2004 10:24:47 AM (2608 views)
Re: Incorporate - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 10:41:35 AM (2722 views)
Re: Incorporate - Loretta Reed/MD
7/7/2004 1:40:02 PM (2648 views)
Re: Incorporate - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 3:23:05 PM (2624 views)
Re: Incorporate - Amanda Packey/FL
7/7/2004 3:33:33 PM (2635 views)
Thank You Amanda!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 4:02:16 PM (2553 views)
Re: Thank You Amanda!!! - Amanda Packey/FL
7/7/2004 4:08:18 PM (2689 views)
Re: Incorporate - kevin ahern/CT
7/8/2004 7:08:59 AM (2600 views)
Re: Incorporate - Robert Franco/OH
7/8/2004 2:38:24 PM (2540 views)
Re: Incorporate (PA) - Annette Dorty/PA
7/8/2004 4:08:32 PM (2581 views)
Re: Incorporate (PA) - kevin ahern/CT
7/9/2004 5:27:30 AM (2620 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Robert Franco/OH
7/4/2004 2:21:30 PM (2547 views)

I hate to get involved in this conversation, but I think it is an important topic.  "Newbie Bashing" is not a good thing, and I don't want to blame the "newbies" for some of the problems in the industry - because they don't know the problems that are being caused by their lack of training.  I believe that there are a lot of well intentioned abstractors, very new to the field, who were led down this path by someone else.

The best advice for someone who wants to be an independent abstractor is to work for a title company or attorney for a couple of years (and that may not be enough).  The only way to become a good abstractor is to gain experience... the only way to gain expereince without causing a lot of problems and incurring a huge amount of liability is to have someone knowledgeable in the field review your work and explain "WHY" you should or shouldn't show certian items.  Good training is extremely important!!

For example... when you are searching a property that recently came out of foreclosure with liens still showing open you have to know when lis pendens applies.  Some liens may survive the suit, others may be extiguished. When you have a deed that wasn't notarized properly, what is the statutory requirement that will cure the defect?  There are so many things that you really can't be prepared for, unless you have come across them before and had someone there to properly explain them when they do arise.  That takes a lot of time - and a good teacher.

It is easy for someone to say, "just find the deed and look for any liens", but there is so much more to it than that.  As rates begin to rise and more forclosures are filed, many cliams will be generated.  It is going to be a scary time for a lot of abstractors and insurers.

I have also spoken with a few E&O insurers regarding discounts for NALTEA members and the answer was always the same... "there are a lot of new abstractors that haven't been properly trained entering the field."  This is ONE of the causes of the higer rates, but I'm sure there are other forces at work also.

Source of Title gets a lot of e-mail asking "how do I become an abstractor?" and I always tell them the same thing - get a job with a title company or attorney that has sufficent resources to train you properly.  Anyone who wants to be an abstractor, without the necessary training, can get into the field, but they should be aware of the requirements of the job and fully understand the liability associated with it.  Missing one mortgage, federal tax lien, life estate, or anything else could cost you your home!  Most of us can't afford to pay a $100,000 claim and the rising E&O rates should be an indication of the liability involved.

A final note:  the Source of Title message forums are for everyone, newbies and seasoned abstractors alike, but newbies won't always like the responses they get.  They shouldn't be taken as "hostile" or "bashing" but as a wanring that there is a lot of responsibility involved with abstracting.  Peoples homes, the single largest investment they make, are riding on your ability to perform your duties as an abstractor.  Those who have been trained for years before becoming independent are frustrated with the abstractors that don't think they need to be properly trained or aren't aware of the training that they didn't get.  Some of them simply do not realize how much they do not know.

Best to everyone,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Newbie bashing - James Guill/VA
7/4/2004 3:56:18 PM (2535 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/4/2004 5:11:04 PM (2529 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/5/2004 11:20:11 AM (2517 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/5/2004 1:49:35 PM (2566 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/5/2004 5:26:12 PM (2531 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/5/2004 5:39:52 PM (2535 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Scott Perry/PA
7/5/2004 9:45:45 PM (2500 views)
Keep BUSH IN!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 12:46:19 PM (2538 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Robert Franco/OH
7/6/2004 1:32:32 PM (2402 views)
Rising Rates! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 2:08:43 PM (2424 views)
Re: Rising Rates! - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/6/2004 6:01:17 PM (3503 views)
Re: Rising Rates! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/7/2004 7:38:53 PM (2330 views)
Unemployment - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 7:43:12 PM (2393 views)
Re: Unemployment - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/8/2004 11:14:10 AM (2366 views)
Re: Unemployment - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/8/2004 11:43:00 AM (2266 views)
Re: Unemployment - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/8/2004 11:00:17 PM (2251 views)

HOT LIST... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/2/2004 10:42:01 PM (1250 views)

[+] Happy 4th!!! - Ellen/MO (4 replies)
7/2/2004 4:39:43 PM (1546 views)

[+] ATC - Accelerated Title Co - Teresa Beeman/NC (1 reply)
7/2/2004 10:24:33 AM (1842 views)

to the best contact person, happy b-day - monica froese/ME
7/1/2004 10:20:23 PM (1379 views)

Order your NALTEA Business Cards for your... - National Assoc of Land Title Examiners and Abstrac/OH
7/1/2004 7:32:09 PM (1345 views)


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