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[+] Out Sourcing... - Jay Duncan/MO (11 replies)
7/7/2004 8:35:51 AM (1904 views)

Collection Agency for Just Abstractors - Angelica DelliCarpini/IN
7/7/2004 2:00:15 AM (1475 views)

[+] Using a laptop to search - Annette Dorty/PA (4 replies)
7/6/2004 3:02:06 PM (2810 views)

Lots of PC on the "Newbies" - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 12:53:53 PM (1355 views)

[+] Brutal Truth gets your attention!!! - Jay Duncan (3 replies)
7/5/2004 2:26:09 PM (1759 views)




[+] Community College Classes - James Guill/VA (5 replies)
7/4/2004 2:28:49 PM (1640 views)

[+] It is the VETERAN...... - Jay Duncan/MO (1 reply)
7/4/2004 2:16:30 PM (1683 views)

[-] Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA (43 replies)
7/3/2004 10:32:04 AM (1748 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/3/2004 11:17:53 AM (3059 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 11:21:19 AM (3073 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/3/2004 2:01:17 PM (3055 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/3/2004 6:36:19 PM (3022 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/4/2004 10:08:24 AM (2946 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/4/2004 11:39:15 AM (2977 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/4/2004 1:20:04 PM (3013 views)
Kurts Training!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 1:06:10 PM (3022 views)
Re: Kurts Training!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/6/2004 4:53:02 PM (3048 views)
Who CAME after you? - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 9:27:34 AM (2940 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Loretta Reed/MD
7/7/2004 9:35:04 AM (3034 views)
MD has some Crazy Laws - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 10:45:15 AM (3043 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 1:05:22 PM (2881 views)
Re: Who CAME after you? - Jay Duncan
7/7/2004 1:18:50 PM (2955 views)
Re: Kurts Training!!! - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/7/2004 5:52:19 PM (3020 views)
Re: Incorporate - Robert Franco/OH
7/7/2004 10:24:47 AM (2891 views)
Re: Incorporate - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 10:41:35 AM (3047 views)
Re: Incorporate - Loretta Reed/MD
7/7/2004 1:40:02 PM (2918 views)
Re: Incorporate - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 3:23:05 PM (2921 views)
Re: Incorporate - Amanda Packey/FL
7/7/2004 3:33:33 PM (2974 views)
Thank You Amanda!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/7/2004 4:02:16 PM (2832 views)
Re: Thank You Amanda!!! - Amanda Packey/FL
7/7/2004 4:08:18 PM (2998 views)
Re: Incorporate - kevin ahern/CT
7/8/2004 7:08:59 AM (2904 views)
Re: Incorporate - Robert Franco/OH
7/8/2004 2:38:24 PM (2835 views)
Re: Incorporate (PA) - Annette Dorty/PA
7/8/2004 4:08:32 PM (2878 views)
Re: Incorporate (PA) - kevin ahern/CT
7/9/2004 5:27:30 AM (2908 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Robert Franco/OH
7/4/2004 2:21:30 PM (2851 views)

I hate to get involved in this conversation, but I think it is an important topic.  "Newbie Bashing" is not a good thing, and I don't want to blame the "newbies" for some of the problems in the industry - because they don't know the problems that are being caused by their lack of training.  I believe that there are a lot of well intentioned abstractors, very new to the field, who were led down this path by someone else.

The best advice for someone who wants to be an independent abstractor is to work for a title company or attorney for a couple of years (and that may not be enough).  The only way to become a good abstractor is to gain experience... the only way to gain expereince without causing a lot of problems and incurring a huge amount of liability is to have someone knowledgeable in the field review your work and explain "WHY" you should or shouldn't show certian items.  Good training is extremely important!!

For example... when you are searching a property that recently came out of foreclosure with liens still showing open you have to know when lis pendens applies.  Some liens may survive the suit, others may be extiguished. When you have a deed that wasn't notarized properly, what is the statutory requirement that will cure the defect?  There are so many things that you really can't be prepared for, unless you have come across them before and had someone there to properly explain them when they do arise.  That takes a lot of time - and a good teacher.

It is easy for someone to say, "just find the deed and look for any liens", but there is so much more to it than that.  As rates begin to rise and more forclosures are filed, many cliams will be generated.  It is going to be a scary time for a lot of abstractors and insurers.

I have also spoken with a few E&O insurers regarding discounts for NALTEA members and the answer was always the same... "there are a lot of new abstractors that haven't been properly trained entering the field."  This is ONE of the causes of the higer rates, but I'm sure there are other forces at work also.

Source of Title gets a lot of e-mail asking "how do I become an abstractor?" and I always tell them the same thing - get a job with a title company or attorney that has sufficent resources to train you properly.  Anyone who wants to be an abstractor, without the necessary training, can get into the field, but they should be aware of the requirements of the job and fully understand the liability associated with it.  Missing one mortgage, federal tax lien, life estate, or anything else could cost you your home!  Most of us can't afford to pay a $100,000 claim and the rising E&O rates should be an indication of the liability involved.

A final note:  the Source of Title message forums are for everyone, newbies and seasoned abstractors alike, but newbies won't always like the responses they get.  They shouldn't be taken as "hostile" or "bashing" but as a wanring that there is a lot of responsibility involved with abstracting.  Peoples homes, the single largest investment they make, are riding on your ability to perform your duties as an abstractor.  Those who have been trained for years before becoming independent are frustrated with the abstractors that don't think they need to be properly trained or aren't aware of the training that they didn't get.  Some of them simply do not realize how much they do not know.

Best to everyone,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Newbie bashing - James Guill/VA
7/4/2004 3:56:18 PM (2813 views)
Re: Newbie bashing - Loretta Reed/MD
7/4/2004 5:11:04 PM (2814 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/5/2004 11:20:11 AM (2801 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/5/2004 1:49:35 PM (2894 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/5/2004 5:26:12 PM (2834 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Loretta Reed/MD
7/5/2004 5:39:52 PM (2832 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Scott Perry/PA
7/5/2004 9:45:45 PM (2798 views)
Keep BUSH IN!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 12:46:19 PM (2836 views)
Re: Newbie bashing... Thank you! - Robert Franco/OH
7/6/2004 1:32:32 PM (2723 views)
Rising Rates! - Kurt deVries/FL
7/6/2004 2:08:43 PM (2717 views)
Re: Rising Rates! - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/6/2004 6:01:17 PM (3844 views)
Re: Rising Rates! - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/7/2004 7:38:53 PM (2612 views)
Unemployment - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/7/2004 7:43:12 PM (2688 views)
Re: Unemployment - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/8/2004 11:14:10 AM (2679 views)
Re: Unemployment - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/8/2004 11:43:00 AM (2538 views)
Re: Unemployment - Judy Nisonger/CA
7/8/2004 11:00:17 PM (2562 views)

HOT LIST... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/2/2004 10:42:01 PM (1310 views)

[+] Happy 4th!!! - Ellen/MO (4 replies)
7/2/2004 4:39:43 PM (1656 views)

[+] ATC - Accelerated Title Co - Teresa Beeman/NC (1 reply)
7/2/2004 10:24:33 AM (1920 views)

to the best contact person, happy b-day - monica froese/ME
7/1/2004 10:20:23 PM (1444 views)

Order your NALTEA Business Cards for your... - National Assoc of Land Title Examiners and Abstrac/OH
7/1/2004 7:32:09 PM (1448 views)

[+] National Equity Services - Michelle/NJ (1 reply)
7/1/2004 7:26:55 PM (1992 views)

[+] Service Link out of PA? - Douglas Johnson/MN (10 replies)
7/1/2004 4:48:55 PM (2000 views)


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