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HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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This Web Site is a MUST!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
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NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan
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Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan
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Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Wayne Schutt II/NY
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Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:12:38 AM (3737 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - anon/GA
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Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:15:55 AM (3745 views)
e &o - Lynn Hammett/SC
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Re: e &o - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 7:33:24 PM (3701 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan/MO
10/27/2004 10:31:34 PM (3630 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:34:36 AM (3626 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan
10/28/2004 9:37:40 AM (3736 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:42:49 AM (3652 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Donna Grady/NC
10/27/2004 10:35:48 PM (3580 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Donna Grady/NC
10/27/2004 10:40:40 PM (3627 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Debra Adkins/VA
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Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 3:14:00 PM (2316 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan
10/26/2004 4:20:22 PM (3646 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 4:44:27 PM (3652 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 5:22:47 PM (3503 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 6:26:22 PM (3559 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 7:09:11 PM (3581 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/26/2004 7:13:27 PM (3557 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:38:28 PM (3483 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 8:41:06 PM (3537 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 8:47:15 PM (3403 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 9:58:57 PM (3484 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 7:25:09 AM (3524 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 6:59:35 AM (3435 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 8:40:40 AM (3467 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 10:04:36 AM (3461 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 10:49:15 AM (3467 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/27/2004 11:04:58 AM (3499 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 12:53:52 PM (3427 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/27/2004 4:55:57 PM (3456 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/27/2004 5:03:50 PM (3390 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:39:52 PM (3288 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 8:52:45 PM (3450 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 7:37:40 AM (3361 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:25:52 PM (3298 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/26/2004 7:11:56 PM (3475 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 5:12:46 PM (3490 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/26/2004 6:37:55 PM (4241 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Donna Grady/NC
10/26/2004 10:58:04 PM (3236 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 7:47:14 AM (3325 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/27/2004 8:34:01 AM (3149 views)
Re: certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/27/2004 11:16:19 AM (3107 views)
Re: certification - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 1:40:20 PM (3265 views)
Re: certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/27/2004 4:48:45 PM (3303 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/27/2004 1:43:58 PM (4318 views)

Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - Donna Grady/NC
10/26/2004 10:17:52 PM (3250 views)




WARNING - Roger Walters/MA
10/26/2004 10:36:39 AM (2371 views)
Re: WARNING - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 10:57:28 AM (3541 views)
Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 11:19:11 AM (3516 views)
Re: WARNING - Kathy Clark/CA
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Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: WARNING - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: WARNING - David Bloys/TX
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Re: WARNING - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/26/2004 7:52:13 PM (3374 views)

SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Franco/OH
10/25/2004 5:20:51 PM (2391 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Breakell/CT
10/25/2004 6:03:38 PM (3496 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/25/2004 6:58:15 PM (3361 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Franco/OH
10/25/2004 7:55:01 PM (3459 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/25/2004 11:14:31 PM (3427 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Jay Duncan
10/25/2004 11:51:35 PM (3465 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 4:46:38 AM (3371 views)
Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:41:17 AM (3347 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Jay Duncan
10/26/2004 8:41:12 AM (3343 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 9:13:37 AM (3494 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 9:50:41 AM (3364 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 10:28:33 AM (3283 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Donna Grady/NC
10/26/2004 10:44:09 AM (3485 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Norean Cashwell/GA
11/4/2004 6:15:13 PM (3268 views)

LLC Questions??? - Jay Duncan/MO
10/23/2004 11:18:11 AM (2303 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 1:07:41 PM (3375 views)

Hi Jay, thanks for your response. You raise very valid points.

1. In so far as the non-producing searcher is concerned, the issue of productivity could be addressed in the management agreement of an LLC or By laws of a corporation. Possibly complaints resulting from their work could result in reducing the number of assignments given to them. Some of the title companies make this a condition in their agreements with independent searchers now. Perhaps something like this could be set up internally. With respect to the matter of profits, you are right that profits are dividended out to shareholders in corporations or paid out to members of an LLC. In most states however, the laws require that all debts of the corporation be paid first before there is a pay out to shareholders or members. Ideally the LLC or corporation could be structured in such a way as to assure that the funding covers only the expenses, or that any resulting profits be retained by the LLC or corporation for future growth and development with a possible reduction in future deuctions from assigned search fee paid by the searchers until exhausted. there are a number of ways that it can be structured. With respect to thie issue of taxes, As I recall LLC's are generally taxed as partnerships or sole proprietorships unless you request that the IRS tax it as a corporation. Corporations are doubly taxed by the IRS unles you file for subchapter S status. In any event if the LLC or corporation does not make any profits there are no taxes or possibly only minimal taxes to be paid. Right now the searchers are all paying their own taxes to the IRS. Their participation in the LLC or corporation does not change that. The LLC or corporation acts only as a cobduit to market the searchers skills and foward seach orders to him through as small a staff as possible of marketers and internal management whose duties amount to nothing more than selling the searvices and forwarding the orders for whatever services are needed.

2. Invoicing remains in the hands of the searchers. That does not change. Some of the title insurance companies up here does it that way. They place the order with the searcher. The searcher does the search and bills the party that ordered the search, appraisal or whatever directly. Any question s on the search or payment for the search re,main between the searcher, appraiser and the party ordering the services.


3. The pice adjustments for metro and rural areas are something that the markewters will deal with in packaging and selling the services. In terms of funding the LLC to keep it functional, those funds come from a minimal charge to be deducted from each search/appraisal/witness closing assigned out. As to how they bill the searchers,appraisers,attorney,notaries for this, one idea might be for each participating searcher,appraiser. attorney or notary to keep a small escrow fund with the LLC or corporation... For example a fund of $100.00.The LLC or corporation could bill each of the assigned give out to each of the escrow funds until exhausted, and thereafter the escrow fund would have to be replenished. This is only one idea. If you have something in mind, feel free to throw it in.

4. The LLC or corporation does not review the searches before they go out. That is left to the individual searchers. They currently do this, and that does not change. I think the individual searchers would prefer to do it this. The LLC or corporation may need to carry its own e& o insurance as well, and that is definitely something that would need to be explored. Remember also it may have no liability for assigning the work out. The participating members status a shareholder's does not in itself make them liable for a bad search. In performing the searches they may be construed as independent contractors, depending upon the law of the state in which they work. If that is the case the LLC or corporation is only liable to the extent that it did not assign the work to a qualified individual. However, the safest thing to do would be to have the LLC or corporation obtain its own insurance.

5. In so far as running the corporation is concerned, yes, you do need to have officers and directors. They can come from the ranks of the shareholders, but they do not have to. You elect them like you would in any corporation. You nominate directors and the sharholders vote them into office for whatever time provided in the by laws. In the case of an LLC you can address the same issues in the management agreement required by law.

I don't know did this address the questions sufficiently. If not let's talk some more, or if you have other ideas, that would be great too.



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Re: LLC Questions??? - Jay Duncan/MO
10/23/2004 1:41:15 PM (3459 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: LLC Questions??? - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Re: LLC Questions??? - Donna Grady/NC
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Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: LLC Questions??? - Donna Grady/NC
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Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: LLC Questions??? - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Outsourcing Article - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Outsourcing Article - David Bloys
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Re: Outsourcing Article - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Map - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Re: Map - Robert Franco/OH
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$26 for Current owner - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
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Hey Judy, an answer to your question - NALTEA
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Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
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Re: $26 for Current owner - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
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Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
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Re: $26 for Current owner - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
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Who knows about this company? - Steve Schneider/IN
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Re: Who knows about this company? - jayne storm/SD
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Re: Who knows about this company? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Ameristar - monica froese/ME
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Re: Ameristar - Steve Schneider/IN
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Re: Who knows about this company? - Roger Walters/MA
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thin title plants? - Donna Grady/NC
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Re: thin title plants? - Robert Franco/OH
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RESPA Reform!!! Can you make a difference!?!?! - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: RESPA Reform!!! Can you make a difference!?!?! - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: RESPA Reform!!! Can you make a difference!?!?! - Robert Breakell/CT
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Help - Fees Issue - Jonathan Mintz/TN
10/18/2004 8:41:35 PM (2308 views)
Re: Help - Fees Issue - Judy Nisonger/CA
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