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ABSTRACTERS OF AMERICA - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
10/29/2004 9:30:27 AM (2421 views)
Re: ABSTRACTERS OF AMERICA - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/29/2004 9:46:11 AM (3555 views)
Re: ABSTRACTERS OF AMERICA - Michael Solt/PA
10/31/2004 12:04:31 PM (3427 views)
Re: ABSTRACTERS OF AMERICA - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
11/2/2004 10:19:31 AM (3434 views)

Signing Agent for Closings - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 8:33:43 PM (2270 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/28/2004 10:18:29 PM (4190 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/29/2004 11:59:52 AM (3509 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Brenda Sarver/MD
11/1/2004 10:56:10 AM (3502 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - kevin ahern/CT
11/1/2004 11:47:19 AM (3565 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Teresa Walker/TN
11/1/2004 9:36:04 AM (4707 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/1/2004 10:59:01 AM (3469 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/2/2004 1:36:58 PM (3440 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/3/2004 12:49:06 PM (3504 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/7/2004 9:59:03 PM (3382 views)

Becoming an abstractor - CTE/MD
10/28/2004 12:06:24 PM (2537 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2004 1:58:16 PM (3795 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Jay Duncan/MO
10/28/2004 2:12:55 PM (5091 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - CTE/MD
10/28/2004 3:14:27 PM (3788 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/28/2004 4:05:56 PM (3678 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - John Sarro/MD
11/4/2004 7:40:55 PM (5099 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Robert Franco/OH
11/4/2004 8:12:21 PM (6329 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Robin Beaker/MD
11/7/2004 11:03:34 AM (5166 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/4/2004 11:31:33 PM (3602 views)
See here is another idiot posting. - Robin Beaker/MD
11/7/2004 11:13:33 AM (4009 views)
Re: See here is another idiot posting. - Julie Jasiunas/WI
11/7/2004 12:18:23 PM (3774 views)
Robin: here is another idiot posting. - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/7/2004 3:56:19 PM (3645 views)
Re: Robin: here is another idiot posting. - Loretta Reed/MD
11/7/2004 6:14:09 PM (3609 views)
Re: Robin: here is another idiot posting. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/9/2004 11:30:07 AM (3524 views)
Re: See here is another idiot posting. - Robert Franco/OH
11/7/2004 8:45:09 PM (3712 views)
Re: See here is another idiot posting. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/7/2004 9:47:57 PM (3661 views)
I bet this lady gets sued - Mary Roberson/MD
11/15/2004 8:38:55 PM (4052 views)
Re: I bet this lady gets sued - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/15/2004 11:36:37 PM (3617 views)

Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 9:17:41 PM (2493 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/27/2004 10:27:25 PM (3630 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/28/2004 12:53:00 AM (3484 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:27:23 AM (4181 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Jay Duncan
10/28/2004 8:40:25 AM (3542 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kurt deVries/FL
10/28/2004 9:02:59 AM (3482 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:30:16 AM (3559 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kurt deVries/FL
10/28/2004 11:17:34 AM (3567 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 4:51:55 PM (3519 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:21:59 AM (3460 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Robert Breakell/CT
10/28/2004 10:40:11 AM (3616 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kim Cowles/WI
10/28/2004 10:47:47 AM (3516 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kurt deVries/FL
10/28/2004 11:15:18 AM (3726 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kim Cowles/FL
10/28/2004 1:04:11 PM (4363 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2004 11:15:38 AM (3569 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kurt deVries/FL
10/28/2004 11:20:49 AM (3456 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2004 1:10:52 PM (3445 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 4:57:42 PM (3428 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Steve Schneider/IN
10/28/2004 7:06:48 PM (3530 views)

Are we our own worst enemy? - Robert Franco/OH
10/27/2004 5:12:06 PM (2400 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 5:30:18 PM (3486 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - kevin ahern/CT
10/28/2004 7:54:18 AM (3521 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2004 3:21:01 PM (3411 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - kevin ahern/CT
10/28/2004 4:11:01 PM (3414 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/29/2004 12:05:55 PM (3418 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/29/2004 8:02:26 PM (3356 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - kevin ahern/CT
10/29/2004 8:43:12 PM (3378 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Anne Pettitt/MD
11/1/2004 10:50:10 AM (3296 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/1/2004 11:04:41 AM (3464 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/7/2004 10:01:46 PM (3397 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/12/2004 6:17:07 PM (3350 views)




HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:42:50 AM (2356 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 12:18:44 PM (3443 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 3:52:50 PM (3329 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/27/2004 4:36:02 PM (3425 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Robert Breakell/CT
10/27/2004 6:00:08 PM (3397 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 7:31:00 PM (3362 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Robert Breakell/CT
10/27/2004 9:13:39 PM (4365 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Donna Grady/NC
10/27/2004 10:51:16 PM (3183 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Debra Adkins/VA
11/2/2004 9:14:59 PM (3228 views)

HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:42:48 AM (1715 views)

This Web Site is a MUST!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 10:31:00 PM (2631 views)

NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/26/2004 8:35:12 PM (2385 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan
10/26/2004 8:50:18 PM (3554 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 10:38:21 AM (3499 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 10:51:18 AM (3517 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:02:28 AM (3508 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 9:08:59 PM (3475 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Wayne Schutt II/NY
10/26/2004 9:13:24 PM (3515 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/26/2004 9:20:07 PM (4470 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:12:38 AM (3524 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:01:41 AM (3439 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:01:41 AM (3439 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 9:51:35 PM (3344 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - anon/GA
10/26/2004 10:23:18 PM (3500 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:15:55 AM (3535 views)
e &o - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/27/2004 4:48:28 PM (3575 views)
Re: e &o - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 5:13:13 PM (3461 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 7:33:24 PM (3512 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan/MO
10/27/2004 10:31:34 PM (3440 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:34:36 AM (3419 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan
10/28/2004 9:37:40 AM (3527 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Donna Grady/NC
10/27/2004 10:35:48 PM (3376 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Donna Grady/NC
10/27/2004 10:40:40 PM (3419 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:39:55 AM (3532 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:38:44 AM (3513 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Debra Adkins/VA
11/1/2004 9:21:17 AM (3448 views)

Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 3:14:00 PM (2255 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan
10/26/2004 4:20:22 PM (3471 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 4:44:27 PM (3477 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 6:26:22 PM (3390 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 7:09:11 PM (3407 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/26/2004 7:13:27 PM (3389 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:38:28 PM (3304 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 8:41:06 PM (3365 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 8:47:15 PM (3233 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 9:58:57 PM (3317 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 7:25:09 AM (3342 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 6:59:35 AM (3265 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 8:40:40 AM (3281 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 10:04:36 AM (3294 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 10:49:15 AM (3292 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/27/2004 11:04:58 AM (3330 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 12:53:52 PM (3261 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/27/2004 4:55:57 PM (3282 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/27/2004 5:03:50 PM (3211 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:39:52 PM (3127 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 8:52:45 PM (3272 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 7:37:40 AM (3179 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:25:52 PM (3130 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/26/2004 7:11:56 PM (3302 views)

1.  Liability - I am concerned not with the liability of any individual abstractor, but the LLC as a whole.  If the work is being ordered from the LLC - don't we run the risk of being brought in to a suit any time one of the members makes a mistake?  I can't imagine what that E&O policy would cost.  The LLC is a separate entity, just like a corporation.  The participants would simply be shareholders.  Someone will be the end of the pencil and own a majority share.  At some point, maybe a year, maybe several years, the minority interests will get squeezed.  It happens in the best of organizations.  Basically, we will be giving ourselves another client which will have the same liability as any other company.

2.  Lack of Choice - If we get a less than thorough abstractor that buys in we would be "obligated" to assign them work, even if we find out they don't do the quality we expect.  As a client company, there is no real obligation to assign work if the quality is not there.  In the end, it will be a matter of honor...is there any of us that would not understand not honoring a contract if it will be detrimental to the whole?

3. Lack of Control - With 1 to 2 thousand members of the LLC, who is going to be in charge?  I think everyone would want to do things "their" way, and as an owner, they might expect it.  I think that going into this LLC concept, everyone will have to understand that although they are "buying in", they are only paying a client to give them work and market for abstractors in general.  It is not possible to have more than one chief. 

4. Independent Mentality - We are all used to working independently.  I'll bet "plays well with others" wasn't something seen on most of our kindergarden report cards.  Though it is truly what is lacking, how do we convince everyone it is in their best interest to work with their competition?  We work with our competition everyday.  Like any other company who has certain expectations, the LLC will spell them out and the abstractor will have to adhere.  Don't we all have some clients that provide their own forms or tell us exactly what they want us to search?

5. Competition - You really can't discuss possible problems without including outside competition from other vendor management companies.  Other vendor management companies are trying to force abstractors into working for less, and using the cheapest they can find.  If other vendor management companies are offering a lower price, we would need to compete soley based on quality - that can be a really tough sell to potential clients.  Can we structure this so that we can charge the prices we do for a quality search, and still offer a lower price to the client.  An LLC will be another vendor management company.  We will need to compete with them toe to toe.

I'll repeat here, NALTEA is already set up to market on behalf of competent abstractors everywhere.  I have never had a difficult time getting clients, even in tough times.  You just pick up the phone and do it.  While NALTEA is giving us credentials and marketing to the industry the importance of using NALTEA members to do searches, we will also be following competency guidelines that set us apart from everyone else.  I'm guessing this is not what some of you want to hear, but creating an LLC is setting up another company...and asking SOT members to contribute is asking for SOT members to fund it like shareholders, but without the benefit of a guarantee.  If all SOT members are going to be shareholders of the LLC, are they all going to be listed on the "creating" document?  Of course not.  Having NALTEA form this service brings credibility to that organization and to its members.

Hope I haven't offended anyone, that was not my intention. 

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Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 5:12:46 PM (3315 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/26/2004 6:37:55 PM (4061 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Donna Grady/NC
10/26/2004 10:58:04 PM (3068 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: certification - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Here is another thought... - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/27/2004 1:43:58 PM (4144 views)

Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - David Bloys/TX
10/26/2004 12:54:21 PM (2334 views)
Re: Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 2:16:11 PM (3101 views)
Re: Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - Donna Grady/NC
10/26/2004 10:17:52 PM (3077 views)

WARNING - Roger Walters/MA
10/26/2004 10:36:39 AM (2314 views)
Re: WARNING - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 10:57:28 AM (3348 views)
Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 11:19:11 AM (3327 views)
Re: WARNING - Kathy Clark/CA
10/26/2004 12:48:31 PM (3321 views)
Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: WARNING - Roger Walters/MA
10/26/2004 1:20:18 PM (3260 views)
Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: WARNING - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 1:33:04 PM (3183 views)
Re: WARNING - David Bloys/TX
10/26/2004 1:26:25 PM (3293 views)
Re: WARNING - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/26/2004 7:52:13 PM (3182 views)

SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Franco/OH
10/25/2004 5:20:51 PM (2330 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Breakell/CT
10/25/2004 6:03:38 PM (3301 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/25/2004 6:58:15 PM (3165 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Franco/OH
10/25/2004 7:55:01 PM (3252 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/25/2004 11:14:31 PM (3235 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Jay Duncan
10/25/2004 11:51:35 PM (3276 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 4:46:38 AM (3168 views)
Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:41:17 AM (3149 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Jay Duncan
10/26/2004 8:41:12 AM (3137 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 9:13:37 AM (3298 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 9:50:41 AM (3172 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 10:28:33 AM (3087 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Donna Grady/NC
10/26/2004 10:44:09 AM (3279 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Norean Cashwell/GA
11/4/2004 6:15:13 PM (3073 views)

LLC Questions??? - Jay Duncan/MO
10/23/2004 11:18:11 AM (2236 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 1:07:41 PM (3203 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 4:38:12 PM (3175 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/23/2004 6:44:24 PM (3120 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Donna Grady/NC
10/24/2004 11:41:09 PM (3210 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/25/2004 6:44:17 AM (3191 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Donna Grady/NC
10/25/2004 12:05:04 PM (3208 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/25/2004 12:57:03 PM (3148 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/25/2004 4:06:24 PM (3046 views)

Outsourcing Article - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/22/2004 11:05:02 PM (3070 views)
Re: Outsourcing Article - David Bloys
10/23/2004 9:01:02 AM (3231 views)
Re: Outsourcing Article - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/24/2004 2:39:28 PM (3079 views)


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