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WARNING - Roger Walters/MA
10/26/2004 10:36:39 AM (2124 views)
Re: WARNING - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 10:57:28 AM (2831 views)
Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 11:19:11 AM (2789 views)
Re: WARNING - Kathy Clark/CA
10/26/2004 12:48:31 PM (2790 views)
Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 2:58:47 PM (2685 views)
Re: WARNING - Roger Walters/MA
10/26/2004 1:20:18 PM (2733 views)
Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 1:53:44 PM (2703 views)
Re: WARNING - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 1:33:04 PM (2741 views)
Re: WARNING - David Bloys/TX
10/26/2004 1:26:25 PM (2776 views)
Re: WARNING - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/26/2004 7:52:13 PM (2680 views)

SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Franco/OH
10/25/2004 5:20:51 PM (2107 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Breakell/CT
10/25/2004 6:03:38 PM (2770 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/25/2004 6:58:15 PM (2677 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Franco/OH
10/25/2004 7:55:01 PM (2733 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/25/2004 11:14:31 PM (2722 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Jay Duncan
10/25/2004 11:51:35 PM (2741 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 4:46:38 AM (2683 views)
Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:41:17 AM (2687 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Jay Duncan
10/26/2004 8:41:12 AM (2641 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 9:13:37 AM (2752 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 9:50:41 AM (2672 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 10:28:33 AM (2648 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Donna Grady/NC
10/26/2004 10:44:09 AM (2749 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Norean Cashwell/GA
11/4/2004 6:15:13 PM (2581 views)

LLC Questions??? - Jay Duncan/MO
10/23/2004 11:18:11 AM (2034 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 1:07:41 PM (2734 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Jay Duncan/MO
10/23/2004 1:41:15 PM (2779 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 4:38:12 PM (2658 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/23/2004 6:44:24 PM (2647 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Donna Grady/NC
10/24/2004 11:41:09 PM (2697 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/25/2004 6:44:17 AM (2672 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Donna Grady/NC
10/25/2004 12:05:04 PM (2686 views)

Hi Kevin,

The number of abstractors in this area on the SOT directory are not really in this area.  They are just listed in the directory because the SOT directory allows anyone to list in any state even though they may not search there with their employees.  For example, I get title work from an abstracting  company listed in the counties I cover as a subcontractor because the title company contacted them and required a search in this county.  So they see me on the SOT directory and send the search to me for say $55.00 and they turn my work in to the title company as theirs for $75.00.  That is what I was saying as far as the LLC sending work to someone else in the SOT directory that really is not local yet instead of the LLC sending the work to me directly I am getting it from someone else the LLC gave it to.  Follow that?  However, if the stipulation is that the LLC will only give work to the local abstractors then that would work for me..... but, if the large abstractor company listed in many areas of the country buys a bigger portion of the stock in my area then I am still back to working for the larger abstractor and not the LLC directly.  You mentioned becoming a signing agent.  How do you find out how to do that?  I went to the book store to purchase the book that was a hot topic a few months ago, Ringer??, I was told that the publisher pulled it off the market.  Which the book store employee said that was rather odd because it was just published.  I have sat in on many closings but to become a signing agent then I would feel like a NEWBIE taking business from someone else except that it has just become legal to do in North Carolina with stipulations.  I have researched that aspect of it.

Then not many of the local abstractors in my area are not listed in the SOT directory.  There are only four of us that search locally out of the 27 listed in the directory.  The abstractor I mentioned previously is not in the SOT directory because she doesn't need to be.  She has all the work she needs and has no time to be on line right now like I do (LOL).   We are friendly and have known each other for 12 years.  Her business grew from working for the companies bak then that the other three independents in our area at the time were told NC bar would sue you if you did that and the attorneys refused to give my friend their work.  While I was out of state, I worked for the title companies and made more money.   When I  returned to NC after 3 1/2 years, I found that about 10 other abstractors are working for the title companies too.  One title company told me that I would be number 12 on their list in my area and that I would probably never get any work from them because they did not need a 12th abstractor.  The attorneys that I used to contract with in this area are now searching online from their offices.  This what I see the title industry is up against.
As far as independants banding together that are not in the same competive areas, I already do that and get that from others.  I have a lot of requests for referrals of searchers in other areas from title companies and attorneys.  I am always happy to pass on work to others in areas that I do not service.  When I don't know anyone in an area that someone has asked for a referral, I go to the SOT directory and pull someone off to recommend.  That is just a courtesy that is extended and accepted in this area without compensation or finders fees. 
All this LLC talk has come at a timely manner for me.  It has helped me in so many ways that I can not tell right now.  I am in the process of reinventing my company so that I can get the lion's share of the market.  IF things work out the way I plan, then joining up for shareholder in a LLC would not be a problem for my company but right now.... I see too many things that need to be worked out for the small abstracting business.  If things don't work like I plan, I will be slaving away for one of the two law firms that are wanting to hire me as an employee.  I want to keep my freedom but I have to pay the bills.
I will keep reading this thread because I am interested......

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Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/25/2004 12:57:03 PM (2639 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/25/2004 4:06:24 PM (2560 views)

Outsourcing Article - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/22/2004 11:05:02 PM (2833 views)
Re: Outsourcing Article - David Bloys
10/23/2004 9:01:02 AM (2695 views)
Re: Outsourcing Article - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Map - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/22/2004 10:21:03 PM (2035 views)
Re: Map - Robert Franco/OH
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$26 for Current owner - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/21/2004 4:20:46 AM (2359 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/21/2004 6:12:57 AM (4219 views)
Hey Judy, an answer to your question - NALTEA
10/21/2004 9:18:13 AM (2813 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Kurt deVries/FL
10/21/2004 11:01:40 AM (2831 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Kathy Clark/CA
10/21/2004 11:25:02 AM (2665 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/21/2004 5:01:36 PM (2720 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Kim Cowles/FL
10/21/2004 6:02:43 PM (2730 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Kurt deVries/FL
10/22/2004 10:47:30 AM (2633 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Robert Franco/OH
10/22/2004 11:03:06 AM (2694 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/22/2004 12:09:37 PM (2616 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner/Other Fees/Market Trends - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: $26 for Current owner - Anonymous/GA
10/21/2004 9:57:44 PM (2752 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Robert Breakell/CT
10/22/2004 2:20:42 PM (2575 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/22/2004 2:41:50 PM (2453 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/22/2004 2:59:31 PM (2626 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/22/2004 4:01:41 PM (2574 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Robert Breakell/CT
10/22/2004 4:32:20 PM (2523 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/22/2004 5:04:31 PM (2723 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Robert Breakell/CT
10/22/2004 5:28:31 PM (2519 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
10/22/2004 6:41:55 PM (2631 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/22/2004 7:14:58 PM (2515 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
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Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/22/2004 9:20:10 PM (2423 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/22/2004 10:31:27 PM (2484 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - James Guill/VA
10/22/2004 2:59:56 PM (2539 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Barbara Bennett/IN
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Re: $26 for Current owner - Angelica/IN/IN
10/22/2004 9:54:58 PM (2402 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/22/2004 10:49:39 PM (2568 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
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Re: $26 for Current owner - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
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Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
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Re: $26 for Current owner - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/23/2004 10:03:21 AM (2327 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
10/23/2004 10:18:35 AM (2389 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 10:40:39 AM (2465 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
10/23/2004 12:09:02 PM (2349 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 12:18:19 PM (2300 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
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Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 10:08:55 AM (2362 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
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Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 10:45:03 AM (2218 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Jay Duncan/MO
10/23/2004 12:28:07 PM (2345 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 1:11:24 PM (2244 views)

Who knows about this company? - Steve Schneider/IN
10/20/2004 8:17:06 PM (2277 views)
Re: Who knows about this company? - jayne storm/SD
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Re: Who knows about this company? - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Who knows about this company? - Steve Schneider/IN
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Re: Who knows about this company? - Steve Schneider/IN
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Re: Who knows about this company? - Anonoymus/NY
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Re: Who knows about this company? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Ameristar - monica froese/ME
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Re: Ameristar - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Ameristar - Steve Schneider/IN
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Re: Who knows about this company? - Roger Walters/MA
10/26/2004 10:47:10 AM (2410 views)

thin title plants? - Donna Grady/NC
10/20/2004 6:14:47 PM (2147 views)
Re: thin title plants? - Robert Franco/OH
10/21/2004 12:03:47 PM (2852 views)

RESPA Reform!!! Can you make a difference!?!?! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/20/2004 4:21:07 PM (2806 views)
Re: RESPA Reform!!! Can you make a difference!?!?! - kevin ahern/CT
10/20/2004 4:27:15 PM (2754 views)
Re: RESPA Reform!!! Can you make a difference!?!?! - Robert Breakell/CT
10/20/2004 6:01:53 PM (2746 views)

Help - Fees Issue - Jonathan Mintz/TN
10/18/2004 8:41:35 PM (2087 views)
Re: Help - Fees Issue - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/18/2004 9:20:49 PM (2717 views)

Abstractor Charges - Chris Eccles/CT
10/18/2004 1:55:48 PM (2137 views)
Re: Abstractor Charges - kevin ahern/CT
10/18/2004 3:39:33 PM (2766 views)

efax - Loretta Reed/MD
10/17/2004 6:03:25 PM (2062 views)
Re: efax - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/17/2004 10:57:55 PM (2837 views)
Re: efax - Kim Cowles/WI
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Re: efax - David Bloys/TX
10/18/2004 3:56:58 PM (2749 views)
Re: efax - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: efax - David Bloys/TX
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Re: efax - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Re: efax - Loretta Reed/MD
10/18/2004 9:35:08 PM (2712 views)
Re: efax - David Bloys/TX
10/19/2004 8:37:15 AM (2740 views)
Re: efax - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: efax - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/18/2004 10:44:42 PM (2756 views)
Re: efax - Loretta Reed/MD
10/19/2004 7:14:52 AM (2742 views)
Re: efax - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2004 2:34:04 PM (2701 views)

Ratings - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/15/2004 11:51:01 PM (2009 views)
Re: Ratings - Robert Franco/OH
10/17/2004 10:51:00 AM (2631 views)

First American Tech Expo - Robert Franco/OH
10/15/2004 11:40:09 PM (2067 views)
Re: First American Tech Expo - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/15/2004 11:47:08 PM (2741 views)
Re: First American Tech Expo - Robert Franco/OH
10/18/2004 5:27:09 PM (2681 views)
Re: First American Tech Expo - Phyllis Agan/GA
10/25/2004 6:22:32 AM (2583 views)
Re: First American Tech Expo - Robert Franco/OH
10/25/2004 2:08:51 PM (2687 views)

Need Help, again - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/14/2004 4:39:27 PM (1933 views)
Re: Need Help, again - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/15/2004 11:44:51 PM (2679 views)
Re: Need Help, again - Donna Grady/NC
10/16/2004 11:17:39 PM (2607 views)
Re: Need Help, again - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/17/2004 1:13:43 PM (2685 views)


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