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ABSTRACTERS OF AMERICA - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
10/29/2004 9:30:27 AM (2200 views)
Re: ABSTRACTERS OF AMERICA - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/29/2004 9:46:11 AM (2852 views)
Re: ABSTRACTERS OF AMERICA - Michael Solt/PA
10/31/2004 12:04:31 PM (2726 views)
Re: ABSTRACTERS OF AMERICA - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
11/2/2004 10:19:31 AM (2759 views)

Signing Agent for Closings - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 8:33:43 PM (2026 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/28/2004 10:18:29 PM (3429 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/29/2004 11:59:52 AM (2777 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Brenda Sarver/MD
11/1/2004 10:56:10 AM (2746 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - kevin ahern/CT
11/1/2004 11:47:19 AM (2814 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Teresa Walker/TN
11/1/2004 9:36:04 AM (3860 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/1/2004 10:59:01 AM (2711 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/2/2004 1:36:58 PM (2682 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/3/2004 12:49:06 PM (2748 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/7/2004 9:59:03 PM (2648 views)

Becoming an abstractor - CTE/MD
10/28/2004 12:06:24 PM (2243 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2004 1:58:16 PM (3080 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Jay Duncan/MO
10/28/2004 2:12:55 PM (4244 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - CTE/MD
10/28/2004 3:14:27 PM (3051 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/28/2004 4:05:56 PM (2992 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - John Sarro/MD
11/4/2004 7:40:55 PM (4186 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Robert Franco/OH
11/4/2004 8:12:21 PM (5411 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Robin Beaker/MD
11/7/2004 11:03:34 AM (4297 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/4/2004 11:31:33 PM (2900 views)
See here is another idiot posting. - Robin Beaker/MD
11/7/2004 11:13:33 AM (3191 views)
Re: See here is another idiot posting. - Julie Jasiunas/WI
11/7/2004 12:18:23 PM (2985 views)
Robin: here is another idiot posting. - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/7/2004 3:56:19 PM (2856 views)
Re: Robin: here is another idiot posting. - Loretta Reed/MD
11/7/2004 6:14:09 PM (2904 views)
Re: Robin: here is another idiot posting. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/9/2004 11:30:07 AM (2789 views)
Re: See here is another idiot posting. - Robert Franco/OH
11/7/2004 8:45:09 PM (2974 views)
Re: See here is another idiot posting. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/7/2004 9:47:57 PM (2925 views)
I bet this lady gets sued - Mary Roberson/MD
11/15/2004 8:38:55 PM (3239 views)
Re: I bet this lady gets sued - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/15/2004 11:36:37 PM (2941 views)

Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 9:17:41 PM (2248 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/27/2004 10:27:25 PM (2865 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/28/2004 12:53:00 AM (2740 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:27:23 AM (3451 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Jay Duncan
10/28/2004 8:40:25 AM (2860 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kurt deVries/FL
10/28/2004 9:02:59 AM (2734 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:30:16 AM (2836 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kurt deVries/FL
10/28/2004 11:17:34 AM (2830 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 4:51:55 PM (2774 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:21:59 AM (2695 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Robert Breakell/CT
10/28/2004 10:40:11 AM (2907 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kim Cowles/WI
10/28/2004 10:47:47 AM (2823 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kurt deVries/FL
10/28/2004 11:15:18 AM (3008 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kim Cowles/FL
10/28/2004 1:04:11 PM (3569 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2004 11:15:38 AM (2835 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kurt deVries/FL
10/28/2004 11:20:49 AM (2659 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2004 1:10:52 PM (2674 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 4:57:42 PM (2724 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Steve Schneider/IN
10/28/2004 7:06:48 PM (2760 views)

Are we our own worst enemy? - Robert Franco/OH
10/27/2004 5:12:06 PM (2153 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 5:30:18 PM (2743 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - kevin ahern/CT
10/28/2004 7:54:18 AM (2752 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2004 3:21:01 PM (2668 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - kevin ahern/CT
10/28/2004 4:11:01 PM (2677 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/29/2004 12:05:55 PM (2671 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/29/2004 8:02:26 PM (2626 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - kevin ahern/CT
10/29/2004 8:43:12 PM (2625 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Anne Pettitt/MD
11/1/2004 10:50:10 AM (2607 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/1/2004 11:04:41 AM (2715 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/7/2004 10:01:46 PM (2653 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/12/2004 6:17:07 PM (2621 views)




HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:42:50 AM (2149 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 12:18:44 PM (2743 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 3:52:50 PM (2617 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/27/2004 4:36:02 PM (2685 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Robert Breakell/CT
10/27/2004 6:00:08 PM (2689 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 7:31:00 PM (2606 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Robert Breakell/CT
10/27/2004 9:13:39 PM (3611 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Donna Grady/NC
10/27/2004 10:51:16 PM (2511 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Debra Adkins/VA
11/2/2004 9:14:59 PM (2488 views)

HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:42:48 AM (1532 views)

This Web Site is a MUST!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 10:31:00 PM (2394 views)

NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/26/2004 8:35:12 PM (2161 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan
10/26/2004 8:50:18 PM (2806 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 10:38:21 AM (2782 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 10:51:18 AM (2773 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:02:28 AM (2811 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 9:08:59 PM (2750 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Wayne Schutt II/NY
10/26/2004 9:13:24 PM (2803 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/26/2004 9:20:07 PM (3743 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:12:38 AM (2768 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:01:41 AM (2701 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:01:41 AM (2696 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 9:51:35 PM (2685 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - anon/GA
10/26/2004 10:23:18 PM (2769 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:15:55 AM (2780 views)
e &o - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/27/2004 4:48:28 PM (2802 views)
Re: e &o - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 5:13:13 PM (2754 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 7:33:24 PM (2766 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan/MO
10/27/2004 10:31:34 PM (2633 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:34:36 AM (2682 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan
10/28/2004 9:37:40 AM (2799 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:42:49 AM (2797 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Donna Grady/NC
10/27/2004 10:35:48 PM (2642 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Donna Grady/NC
10/27/2004 10:40:40 PM (2756 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:39:55 AM (2767 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:38:44 AM (2820 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Debra Adkins/VA
11/1/2004 9:21:17 AM (2792 views)

Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 3:14:00 PM (2009 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan
10/26/2004 4:20:22 PM (2731 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 4:44:27 PM (2728 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 5:22:47 PM (2618 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 6:26:22 PM (2625 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 7:09:11 PM (2635 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/26/2004 7:13:27 PM (2638 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:38:28 PM (2607 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 8:41:06 PM (2654 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 8:47:15 PM (2525 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 9:58:57 PM (2562 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 7:25:09 AM (2598 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 6:59:35 AM (2572 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 8:40:40 AM (2498 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 10:04:36 AM (2539 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 10:49:15 AM (2514 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/27/2004 11:04:58 AM (2539 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 12:53:52 PM (2495 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/27/2004 4:55:57 PM (2538 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/27/2004 5:03:50 PM (2520 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:39:52 PM (2399 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 8:52:45 PM (2510 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 7:37:40 AM (2424 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:25:52 PM (2376 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/26/2004 7:11:56 PM (2546 views)

1.  Liability - I am concerned not with the liability of any individual abstractor, but the LLC as a whole.  If the work is being ordered from the LLC - don't we run the risk of being brought in to a suit any time one of the members makes a mistake?  I can't imagine what that E&O policy would cost.  The LLC is a separate entity, just like a corporation.  The participants would simply be shareholders.  Someone will be the end of the pencil and own a majority share.  At some point, maybe a year, maybe several years, the minority interests will get squeezed.  It happens in the best of organizations.  Basically, we will be giving ourselves another client which will have the same liability as any other company.

2.  Lack of Choice - If we get a less than thorough abstractor that buys in we would be "obligated" to assign them work, even if we find out they don't do the quality we expect.  As a client company, there is no real obligation to assign work if the quality is not there.  In the end, it will be a matter of honor...is there any of us that would not understand not honoring a contract if it will be detrimental to the whole?

3. Lack of Control - With 1 to 2 thousand members of the LLC, who is going to be in charge?  I think everyone would want to do things "their" way, and as an owner, they might expect it.  I think that going into this LLC concept, everyone will have to understand that although they are "buying in", they are only paying a client to give them work and market for abstractors in general.  It is not possible to have more than one chief. 

4. Independent Mentality - We are all used to working independently.  I'll bet "plays well with others" wasn't something seen on most of our kindergarden report cards.  Though it is truly what is lacking, how do we convince everyone it is in their best interest to work with their competition?  We work with our competition everyday.  Like any other company who has certain expectations, the LLC will spell them out and the abstractor will have to adhere.  Don't we all have some clients that provide their own forms or tell us exactly what they want us to search?

5. Competition - You really can't discuss possible problems without including outside competition from other vendor management companies.  Other vendor management companies are trying to force abstractors into working for less, and using the cheapest they can find.  If other vendor management companies are offering a lower price, we would need to compete soley based on quality - that can be a really tough sell to potential clients.  Can we structure this so that we can charge the prices we do for a quality search, and still offer a lower price to the client.  An LLC will be another vendor management company.  We will need to compete with them toe to toe.

I'll repeat here, NALTEA is already set up to market on behalf of competent abstractors everywhere.  I have never had a difficult time getting clients, even in tough times.  You just pick up the phone and do it.  While NALTEA is giving us credentials and marketing to the industry the importance of using NALTEA members to do searches, we will also be following competency guidelines that set us apart from everyone else.  I'm guessing this is not what some of you want to hear, but creating an LLC is setting up another company...and asking SOT members to contribute is asking for SOT members to fund it like shareholders, but without the benefit of a guarantee.  If all SOT members are going to be shareholders of the LLC, are they all going to be listed on the "creating" document?  Of course not.  Having NALTEA form this service brings credibility to that organization and to its members.

Hope I haven't offended anyone, that was not my intention. 

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Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 5:12:46 PM (2592 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/26/2004 6:37:55 PM (3274 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Donna Grady/NC
10/26/2004 10:58:04 PM (2284 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 7:47:14 AM (2364 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/27/2004 8:34:01 AM (2294 views)
Re: certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/27/2004 11:16:19 AM (2233 views)
Re: certification - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Here is another thought... - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/27/2004 1:43:58 PM (3291 views)

Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - David Bloys/TX
10/26/2004 12:54:21 PM (2008 views)
Re: Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 2:16:11 PM (2438 views)
Re: Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - Donna Grady/NC
10/26/2004 10:17:52 PM (2382 views)

WARNING - Roger Walters/MA
10/26/2004 10:36:39 AM (2076 views)
Re: WARNING - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 10:57:28 AM (2631 views)
Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 11:19:11 AM (2580 views)
Re: WARNING - Kathy Clark/CA
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Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: WARNING - Roger Walters/MA
10/26/2004 1:20:18 PM (2527 views)
Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 1:53:44 PM (2482 views)
Re: WARNING - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 1:33:04 PM (2567 views)
Re: WARNING - David Bloys/TX
10/26/2004 1:26:25 PM (2567 views)
Re: WARNING - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/26/2004 7:52:13 PM (2478 views)

SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Franco/OH
10/25/2004 5:20:51 PM (2054 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Breakell/CT
10/25/2004 6:03:38 PM (2542 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/25/2004 6:58:15 PM (2478 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Franco/OH
10/25/2004 7:55:01 PM (2522 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/25/2004 11:14:31 PM (2506 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Jay Duncan
10/25/2004 11:51:35 PM (2524 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 4:46:38 AM (2492 views)
Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:41:17 AM (2493 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Jay Duncan
10/26/2004 8:41:12 AM (2422 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 9:13:37 AM (2522 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 9:50:41 AM (2463 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 10:28:33 AM (2469 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Donna Grady/NC
10/26/2004 10:44:09 AM (2523 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Norean Cashwell/GA
11/4/2004 6:15:13 PM (2381 views)

LLC Questions??? - Jay Duncan/MO
10/23/2004 11:18:11 AM (1980 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 1:07:41 PM (2541 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Jay Duncan/MO
10/23/2004 1:41:15 PM (2596 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 4:38:12 PM (2442 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/23/2004 6:44:24 PM (2472 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Donna Grady/NC
10/24/2004 11:41:09 PM (2484 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/25/2004 6:44:17 AM (2462 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Donna Grady/NC
10/25/2004 12:05:04 PM (2471 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/25/2004 12:57:03 PM (2442 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/25/2004 4:06:24 PM (2381 views)

Outsourcing Article - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/22/2004 11:05:02 PM (2770 views)
Re: Outsourcing Article - David Bloys
10/23/2004 9:01:02 AM (2479 views)
Re: Outsourcing Article - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/24/2004 2:39:28 PM (2383 views)


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