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ABSTRACTERS OF AMERICA - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
10/29/2004 9:30:27 AM (2200 views)
Re: ABSTRACTERS OF AMERICA - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/29/2004 9:46:11 AM (2851 views)
Re: ABSTRACTERS OF AMERICA - Michael Solt/PA
10/31/2004 12:04:31 PM (2724 views)
Re: ABSTRACTERS OF AMERICA - CLEOFI BLASS/NJ
11/2/2004 10:19:31 AM (2758 views)

Signing Agent for Closings - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 8:33:43 PM (2026 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/28/2004 10:18:29 PM (3429 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/29/2004 11:59:52 AM (2777 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Brenda Sarver/MD
11/1/2004 10:56:10 AM (2746 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - kevin ahern/CT
11/1/2004 11:47:19 AM (2813 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Teresa Walker/TN
11/1/2004 9:36:04 AM (3860 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/1/2004 10:59:01 AM (2710 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/2/2004 1:36:58 PM (2682 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/3/2004 12:49:06 PM (2748 views)
Re: Signing Agent for Closings - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/7/2004 9:59:03 PM (2648 views)

Becoming an abstractor - CTE/MD
10/28/2004 12:06:24 PM (2243 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2004 1:58:16 PM (3079 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Jay Duncan/MO
10/28/2004 2:12:55 PM (4243 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - CTE/MD
10/28/2004 3:14:27 PM (3050 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/28/2004 4:05:56 PM (2991 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - John Sarro/MD
11/4/2004 7:40:55 PM (4185 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Robert Franco/OH
11/4/2004 8:12:21 PM (5410 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Robin Beaker/MD
11/7/2004 11:03:34 AM (4296 views)
Re: Becoming an abstractor - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/4/2004 11:31:33 PM (2898 views)
See here is another idiot posting. - Robin Beaker/MD
11/7/2004 11:13:33 AM (3190 views)
Re: See here is another idiot posting. - Julie Jasiunas/WI
11/7/2004 12:18:23 PM (2984 views)
Robin: here is another idiot posting. - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/7/2004 3:56:19 PM (2855 views)
Re: Robin: here is another idiot posting. - Loretta Reed/MD
11/7/2004 6:14:09 PM (2903 views)
Re: Robin: here is another idiot posting. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/9/2004 11:30:07 AM (2788 views)
Re: See here is another idiot posting. - Robert Franco/OH
11/7/2004 8:45:09 PM (2973 views)
Re: See here is another idiot posting. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/7/2004 9:47:57 PM (2924 views)
I bet this lady gets sued - Mary Roberson/MD
11/15/2004 8:38:55 PM (3238 views)
Re: I bet this lady gets sued - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/15/2004 11:36:37 PM (2940 views)

Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 9:17:41 PM (2248 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/27/2004 10:27:25 PM (2864 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/28/2004 12:53:00 AM (2739 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:27:23 AM (3450 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Jay Duncan
10/28/2004 8:40:25 AM (2859 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kurt deVries/FL
10/28/2004 9:02:59 AM (2733 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:30:16 AM (2834 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kurt deVries/FL
10/28/2004 11:17:34 AM (2829 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 4:51:55 PM (2773 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:21:59 AM (2694 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Robert Breakell/CT
10/28/2004 10:40:11 AM (2906 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kim Cowles/WI
10/28/2004 10:47:47 AM (2822 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kurt deVries/FL
10/28/2004 11:15:18 AM (3007 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kim Cowles/FL
10/28/2004 1:04:11 PM (3568 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2004 11:15:38 AM (2834 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Kurt deVries/FL
10/28/2004 11:20:49 AM (2658 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2004 1:10:52 PM (2673 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 4:57:42 PM (2723 views)
Re: Everyone's Qualifications - Steve Schneider/IN
10/28/2004 7:06:48 PM (2759 views)

Are we our own worst enemy? - Robert Franco/OH
10/27/2004 5:12:06 PM (2153 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 5:30:18 PM (2742 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - kevin ahern/CT
10/28/2004 7:54:18 AM (2751 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2004 3:21:01 PM (2667 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - kevin ahern/CT
10/28/2004 4:11:01 PM (2676 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/29/2004 12:05:55 PM (2670 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/29/2004 8:02:26 PM (2625 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - kevin ahern/CT
10/29/2004 8:43:12 PM (2624 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Anne Pettitt/MD
11/1/2004 10:50:10 AM (2606 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/1/2004 11:04:41 AM (2714 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/7/2004 10:01:46 PM (2652 views)
Re: Are we our own worst enemy? - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/12/2004 6:17:07 PM (2620 views)




HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:42:50 AM (2149 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 12:18:44 PM (2742 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 3:52:50 PM (2616 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/27/2004 4:36:02 PM (2684 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Robert Breakell/CT
10/27/2004 6:00:08 PM (2688 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 7:31:00 PM (2605 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Robert Breakell/CT
10/27/2004 9:13:39 PM (3610 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Donna Grady/NC
10/27/2004 10:51:16 PM (2510 views)
Re: HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Debra Adkins/VA
11/2/2004 9:14:59 PM (2487 views)

HEY THERE IS GOOD NEWS! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:42:48 AM (1532 views)

This Web Site is a MUST!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 10:31:00 PM (2394 views)

NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/26/2004 8:35:12 PM (2161 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan
10/26/2004 8:50:18 PM (2805 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 10:38:21 AM (2781 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 10:51:18 AM (2772 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:02:28 AM (2810 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 9:08:59 PM (2749 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Wayne Schutt II/NY
10/26/2004 9:13:24 PM (2802 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/26/2004 9:20:07 PM (3742 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:12:38 AM (2767 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:01:41 AM (2700 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:01:41 AM (2695 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 9:51:35 PM (2684 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - anon/GA
10/26/2004 10:23:18 PM (2768 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 11:15:55 AM (2779 views)
e &o - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/27/2004 4:48:28 PM (2801 views)
Re: e &o - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 5:13:13 PM (2753 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/27/2004 7:33:24 PM (2765 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan/MO
10/27/2004 10:31:34 PM (2631 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:34:36 AM (2681 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Jay Duncan
10/28/2004 9:37:40 AM (2798 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:42:49 AM (2792 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Donna Grady/NC
10/27/2004 10:35:48 PM (2641 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Donna Grady/NC
10/27/2004 10:40:40 PM (2755 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:39:55 AM (2766 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/28/2004 9:38:44 AM (2819 views)
Re: NEW INFO RE FEES ASKED TO BE REDUCED - Debra Adkins/VA
11/1/2004 9:21:17 AM (2791 views)

Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 3:14:00 PM (2009 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan
10/26/2004 4:20:22 PM (2730 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 4:44:27 PM (2727 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 6:26:22 PM (2624 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 7:09:11 PM (2634 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/26/2004 7:13:27 PM (2637 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:38:28 PM (2606 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 8:41:06 PM (2653 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 8:47:15 PM (2524 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 9:58:57 PM (2561 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 7:25:09 AM (2597 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 6:59:35 AM (2571 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 8:40:40 AM (2497 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 10:04:36 AM (2538 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Jay Duncan
10/27/2004 10:49:15 AM (2513 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Franco/OH
10/27/2004 11:04:58 AM (2537 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 12:53:52 PM (2494 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/27/2004 4:55:57 PM (2537 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/27/2004 5:03:50 PM (2519 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:39:52 PM (2398 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 8:52:45 PM (2509 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 7:37:40 AM (2423 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:25:52 PM (2375 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/26/2004 7:11:56 PM (2545 views)

1.  Liability - I am concerned not with the liability of any individual abstractor, but the LLC as a whole.  If the work is being ordered from the LLC - don't we run the risk of being brought in to a suit any time one of the members makes a mistake?  I can't imagine what that E&O policy would cost.  The LLC is a separate entity, just like a corporation.  The participants would simply be shareholders.  Someone will be the end of the pencil and own a majority share.  At some point, maybe a year, maybe several years, the minority interests will get squeezed.  It happens in the best of organizations.  Basically, we will be giving ourselves another client which will have the same liability as any other company.

2.  Lack of Choice - If we get a less than thorough abstractor that buys in we would be "obligated" to assign them work, even if we find out they don't do the quality we expect.  As a client company, there is no real obligation to assign work if the quality is not there.  In the end, it will be a matter of honor...is there any of us that would not understand not honoring a contract if it will be detrimental to the whole?

3. Lack of Control - With 1 to 2 thousand members of the LLC, who is going to be in charge?  I think everyone would want to do things "their" way, and as an owner, they might expect it.  I think that going into this LLC concept, everyone will have to understand that although they are "buying in", they are only paying a client to give them work and market for abstractors in general.  It is not possible to have more than one chief. 

4. Independent Mentality - We are all used to working independently.  I'll bet "plays well with others" wasn't something seen on most of our kindergarden report cards.  Though it is truly what is lacking, how do we convince everyone it is in their best interest to work with their competition?  We work with our competition everyday.  Like any other company who has certain expectations, the LLC will spell them out and the abstractor will have to adhere.  Don't we all have some clients that provide their own forms or tell us exactly what they want us to search?

5. Competition - You really can't discuss possible problems without including outside competition from other vendor management companies.  Other vendor management companies are trying to force abstractors into working for less, and using the cheapest they can find.  If other vendor management companies are offering a lower price, we would need to compete soley based on quality - that can be a really tough sell to potential clients.  Can we structure this so that we can charge the prices we do for a quality search, and still offer a lower price to the client.  An LLC will be another vendor management company.  We will need to compete with them toe to toe.

I'll repeat here, NALTEA is already set up to market on behalf of competent abstractors everywhere.  I have never had a difficult time getting clients, even in tough times.  You just pick up the phone and do it.  While NALTEA is giving us credentials and marketing to the industry the importance of using NALTEA members to do searches, we will also be following competency guidelines that set us apart from everyone else.  I'm guessing this is not what some of you want to hear, but creating an LLC is setting up another company...and asking SOT members to contribute is asking for SOT members to fund it like shareholders, but without the benefit of a guarantee.  If all SOT members are going to be shareholders of the LLC, are they all going to be listed on the "creating" document?  Of course not.  Having NALTEA form this service brings credibility to that organization and to its members.

Hope I haven't offended anyone, that was not my intention. 

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Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 5:12:46 PM (2591 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Lynn Hammett/SC
10/26/2004 6:37:55 PM (3273 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Donna Grady/NC
10/26/2004 10:58:04 PM (2283 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - kevin ahern/CT
10/27/2004 7:47:14 AM (2363 views)
Re: Here is another thought... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/27/2004 8:34:01 AM (2293 views)
Re: certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/27/2004 11:16:19 AM (2232 views)
Re: certification - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Here is another thought... - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/27/2004 1:43:58 PM (3290 views)

Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - David Bloys/TX
10/26/2004 12:54:21 PM (2008 views)
Re: Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 2:16:11 PM (2437 views)
Re: Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - Donna Grady/NC
10/26/2004 10:17:52 PM (2381 views)

WARNING - Roger Walters/MA
10/26/2004 10:36:39 AM (2076 views)
Re: WARNING - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 10:57:28 AM (2628 views)
Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 11:19:11 AM (2579 views)
Re: WARNING - Kathy Clark/CA
10/26/2004 12:48:31 PM (2584 views)
Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: WARNING - Roger Walters/MA
10/26/2004 1:20:18 PM (2526 views)
Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 1:53:44 PM (2481 views)
Re: WARNING - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 1:33:04 PM (2566 views)
Re: WARNING - David Bloys/TX
10/26/2004 1:26:25 PM (2566 views)
Re: WARNING - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/26/2004 7:52:13 PM (2477 views)

SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Franco/OH
10/25/2004 5:20:51 PM (2054 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Breakell/CT
10/25/2004 6:03:38 PM (2541 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/25/2004 6:58:15 PM (2477 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Franco/OH
10/25/2004 7:55:01 PM (2519 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/25/2004 11:14:31 PM (2505 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Jay Duncan
10/25/2004 11:51:35 PM (2523 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 4:46:38 AM (2491 views)
Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:41:17 AM (2492 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Jay Duncan
10/26/2004 8:41:12 AM (2421 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 9:13:37 AM (2521 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 9:50:41 AM (2462 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 10:28:33 AM (2466 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Donna Grady/NC
10/26/2004 10:44:09 AM (2522 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Norean Cashwell/GA
11/4/2004 6:15:13 PM (2380 views)

LLC Questions??? - Jay Duncan/MO
10/23/2004 11:18:11 AM (1980 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 1:07:41 PM (2540 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Jay Duncan/MO
10/23/2004 1:41:15 PM (2595 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 4:38:12 PM (2441 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/23/2004 6:44:24 PM (2471 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Donna Grady/NC
10/24/2004 11:41:09 PM (2483 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/25/2004 6:44:17 AM (2461 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Donna Grady/NC
10/25/2004 12:05:04 PM (2470 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/25/2004 12:57:03 PM (2441 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/25/2004 4:06:24 PM (2380 views)

Outsourcing Article - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/22/2004 11:05:02 PM (2770 views)
Re: Outsourcing Article - David Bloys
10/23/2004 9:01:02 AM (2478 views)
Re: Outsourcing Article - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/24/2004 2:39:28 PM (2382 views)


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