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Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - David Bloys/TX
10/26/2004 12:54:21 PM (1980 views)
Re: Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 2:16:11 PM (2364 views)
Re: Local Abstractors & the SOT Directory - Donna Grady/NC
10/26/2004 10:17:52 PM (2283 views)

WARNING - Roger Walters/MA
10/26/2004 10:36:39 AM (2036 views)
Re: WARNING - Jay Duncan/MO
10/26/2004 10:57:28 AM (2542 views)
Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 11:19:11 AM (2504 views)
Re: WARNING - Kathy Clark/CA
10/26/2004 12:48:31 PM (2499 views)
Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 2:58:47 PM (2377 views)
Re: WARNING - Roger Walters/MA
10/26/2004 1:20:18 PM (2455 views)
Re: WARNING - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 1:53:44 PM (2386 views)
Re: WARNING - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 1:33:04 PM (2451 views)
Re: WARNING - David Bloys/TX
10/26/2004 1:26:25 PM (2469 views)
Re: WARNING - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/26/2004 7:52:13 PM (2363 views)

SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Franco/OH
10/25/2004 5:20:51 PM (2028 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Breakell/CT
10/25/2004 6:03:38 PM (2452 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/25/2004 6:58:15 PM (2385 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Robert Franco/OH
10/25/2004 7:55:01 PM (2435 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/25/2004 11:14:31 PM (2396 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - Jay Duncan
10/25/2004 11:51:35 PM (2447 views)
Re: SOT opinion on LLC - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 4:46:38 AM (2405 views)
Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 7:41:17 AM (2401 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Jay Duncan
10/26/2004 8:41:12 AM (2327 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 9:13:37 AM (2429 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Robert Breakell/CT
10/26/2004 9:50:41 AM (2368 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - kevin ahern/CT
10/26/2004 10:28:33 AM (2389 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Donna Grady/NC
10/26/2004 10:44:09 AM (2436 views)
Re: Amendment 5 - Norean Cashwell/GA
11/4/2004 6:15:13 PM (2286 views)

LLC Questions??? - Jay Duncan/MO
10/23/2004 11:18:11 AM (1961 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 1:07:41 PM (2457 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Jay Duncan/MO
10/23/2004 1:41:15 PM (2517 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 4:38:12 PM (2360 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/23/2004 6:44:24 PM (2408 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Donna Grady/NC
10/24/2004 11:41:09 PM (2420 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/25/2004 6:44:17 AM (2380 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Donna Grady/NC
10/25/2004 12:05:04 PM (2389 views)

Hi Kevin,

The number of abstractors in this area on the SOT directory are not really in this area.  They are just listed in the directory because the SOT directory allows anyone to list in any state even though they may not search there with their employees.  For example, I get title work from an abstracting  company listed in the counties I cover as a subcontractor because the title company contacted them and required a search in this county.  So they see me on the SOT directory and send the search to me for say $55.00 and they turn my work in to the title company as theirs for $75.00.  That is what I was saying as far as the LLC sending work to someone else in the SOT directory that really is not local yet instead of the LLC sending the work to me directly I am getting it from someone else the LLC gave it to.  Follow that?  However, if the stipulation is that the LLC will only give work to the local abstractors then that would work for me..... but, if the large abstractor company listed in many areas of the country buys a bigger portion of the stock in my area then I am still back to working for the larger abstractor and not the LLC directly.  You mentioned becoming a signing agent.  How do you find out how to do that?  I went to the book store to purchase the book that was a hot topic a few months ago, Ringer??, I was told that the publisher pulled it off the market.  Which the book store employee said that was rather odd because it was just published.  I have sat in on many closings but to become a signing agent then I would feel like a NEWBIE taking business from someone else except that it has just become legal to do in North Carolina with stipulations.  I have researched that aspect of it.

Then not many of the local abstractors in my area are not listed in the SOT directory.  There are only four of us that search locally out of the 27 listed in the directory.  The abstractor I mentioned previously is not in the SOT directory because she doesn't need to be.  She has all the work she needs and has no time to be on line right now like I do (LOL).   We are friendly and have known each other for 12 years.  Her business grew from working for the companies bak then that the other three independents in our area at the time were told NC bar would sue you if you did that and the attorneys refused to give my friend their work.  While I was out of state, I worked for the title companies and made more money.   When I  returned to NC after 3 1/2 years, I found that about 10 other abstractors are working for the title companies too.  One title company told me that I would be number 12 on their list in my area and that I would probably never get any work from them because they did not need a 12th abstractor.  The attorneys that I used to contract with in this area are now searching online from their offices.  This what I see the title industry is up against.
As far as independants banding together that are not in the same competive areas, I already do that and get that from others.  I have a lot of requests for referrals of searchers in other areas from title companies and attorneys.  I am always happy to pass on work to others in areas that I do not service.  When I don't know anyone in an area that someone has asked for a referral, I go to the SOT directory and pull someone off to recommend.  That is just a courtesy that is extended and accepted in this area without compensation or finders fees. 
All this LLC talk has come at a timely manner for me.  It has helped me in so many ways that I can not tell right now.  I am in the process of reinventing my company so that I can get the lion's share of the market.  IF things work out the way I plan, then joining up for shareholder in a LLC would not be a problem for my company but right now.... I see too many things that need to be worked out for the small abstracting business.  If things don't work like I plan, I will be slaving away for one of the two law firms that are wanting to hire me as an employee.  I want to keep my freedom but I have to pay the bills.
I will keep reading this thread because I am interested......

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Re: LLC Questions??? - kevin ahern/CT
10/25/2004 12:57:03 PM (2371 views)
Re: LLC Questions??? - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/25/2004 4:06:24 PM (2314 views)

Outsourcing Article - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/22/2004 11:05:02 PM (2743 views)
Re: Outsourcing Article - David Bloys
10/23/2004 9:01:02 AM (2433 views)
Re: Outsourcing Article - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Map - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/22/2004 10:21:03 PM (1936 views)
Re: Map - Robert Franco/OH
10/26/2004 2:21:41 PM (2285 views)

$26 for Current owner - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/21/2004 4:20:46 AM (2263 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/21/2004 6:12:57 AM (3904 views)
Hey Judy, an answer to your question - NALTEA
10/21/2004 9:18:13 AM (2463 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Kurt deVries/FL
10/21/2004 11:01:40 AM (2507 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Kathy Clark/CA
10/21/2004 11:25:02 AM (2340 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/21/2004 5:01:36 PM (2442 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Kim Cowles/FL
10/21/2004 6:02:43 PM (2383 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Kurt deVries/FL
10/22/2004 10:47:30 AM (2353 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Robert Franco/OH
10/22/2004 11:03:06 AM (2351 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/22/2004 12:09:37 PM (2301 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner/Other Fees/Market Trends - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/26/2004 6:49:46 PM (2257 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Anonymous/GA
10/21/2004 9:57:44 PM (2441 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Robert Breakell/CT
10/22/2004 2:20:42 PM (2262 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/22/2004 2:41:50 PM (2169 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/22/2004 2:59:31 PM (2297 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/22/2004 4:01:41 PM (2296 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Robert Breakell/CT
10/22/2004 4:32:20 PM (2229 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/22/2004 5:04:31 PM (2419 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Robert Breakell/CT
10/22/2004 5:28:31 PM (2218 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
10/22/2004 6:41:55 PM (2273 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/22/2004 7:14:58 PM (2226 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
10/22/2004 8:26:28 PM (2231 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: $26 for Current owner - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Re: $26 for Current owner - James Guill/VA
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Re: $26 for Current owner - Barbara Bennett/IN
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Re: $26 for Current owner - Angelica/IN/IN
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Re: $26 for Current owner - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
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Re: $26 for Current owner - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
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Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
10/23/2004 8:44:16 AM (2109 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - Shannon Blatt/VA
10/23/2004 10:03:21 AM (2085 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
10/23/2004 10:18:35 AM (2067 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
10/23/2004 10:40:39 AM (2058 views)
Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
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Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
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Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: $26 for Current owner - David Bloys/TX
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Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: $26 for Current owner - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: $26 for Current owner - kevin ahern/CT
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Who knows about this company? - Steve Schneider/IN
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Re: Who knows about this company? - jayne storm/SD
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Ameristar - monica froese/ME
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Re: Who knows about this company? - Roger Walters/MA
10/26/2004 10:47:10 AM (2154 views)

thin title plants? - Donna Grady/NC
10/20/2004 6:14:47 PM (2042 views)
Re: thin title plants? - Robert Franco/OH
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RESPA Reform!!! Can you make a difference!?!?! - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: RESPA Reform!!! Can you make a difference!?!?! - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: RESPA Reform!!! Can you make a difference!?!?! - Robert Breakell/CT
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Help - Fees Issue - Jonathan Mintz/TN
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Re: Help - Fees Issue - Judy Nisonger/CA
10/18/2004 9:20:49 PM (2446 views)

Abstractor Charges - Chris Eccles/CT
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Re: Abstractor Charges - kevin ahern/CT
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efax - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: efax - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: efax - Kim Cowles/WI
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Re: efax - David Bloys/TX
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Re: efax - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: efax - David Bloys/TX
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Re: efax - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: efax - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: efax - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: efax - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: efax - Robert Franco/OH
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Ratings - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Ratings - Robert Franco/OH
10/17/2004 10:51:00 AM (2343 views)

First American Tech Expo - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: First American Tech Expo - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: First American Tech Expo - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: First American Tech Expo - Phyllis Agan/GA
10/25/2004 6:22:32 AM (2314 views)
Re: First American Tech Expo - Robert Franco/OH
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