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It is the soldier - Jay Duncan/MO
11/10/2004 10:40:58 PM (2423 views)
Re: It is the soldier - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/11/2004 3:01:31 AM (4002 views)
Re: It is the soldier - Jay Duncan
11/11/2004 8:40:24 AM (3864 views)
Re: It is the soldier - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/11/2004 10:39:56 AM (3928 views)

Skipjack - kevin ahern/CT
11/10/2004 5:00:03 PM (2662 views)
Re: Skipjack - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 5:35:03 PM (4056 views)
Re: Skipjack - Jay Duncan/MO
11/10/2004 11:12:43 PM (4002 views)
Re: Skipjack - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/11/2004 3:09:58 AM (3940 views)
Re: Skipjack - Ellen Malloy/MO
11/11/2004 2:47:08 PM (4289 views)
Re: Skipjack - Jay Duncan
11/11/2004 2:57:11 PM (3926 views)
Re: Skipjack - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/11/2004 7:58:37 PM (3899 views)
Re: Skipjack - Jay Duncan
11/11/2004 9:02:34 PM (3872 views)
Re: Skipjack - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/12/2004 4:42:02 AM (3881 views)
Re: Skipjack - kevin ahern/CT
11/11/2004 6:15:54 AM (3938 views)
Re: Skipjack - Jay Duncan
11/11/2004 8:43:44 AM (3845 views)
Re: Skipjack - kevin ahern/CT
11/11/2004 9:12:46 AM (3927 views)
Re: Skipjack - Jay Duncan
11/11/2004 9:22:19 AM (3946 views)
Re: Skipjack - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/11/2004 11:09:53 AM (3908 views)
Re: Skipjack - kevin ahern/CT
11/11/2004 11:35:23 AM (3952 views)
Re: Skipjack - Donna Grady/NC
11/13/2004 10:25:23 AM (3888 views)
Re: Skipjack - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/13/2004 12:30:39 PM (3939 views)
Re: Skipjack - Scott Perry/PA
11/15/2004 9:26:48 PM (3804 views)

E&O insurance - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 1:54:28 PM (3281 views)
Re: E&O insurance - Robert Breakell/CT
11/10/2004 7:41:02 PM (3790 views)
Re: E&O insurance - kevin ahern/CT
11/11/2004 6:04:14 AM (3809 views)
Re: E&O insurance - Robert Breakell/CT
11/11/2004 12:05:56 PM (3722 views)

Online services - Jimmy Smith/PA
11/10/2004 12:43:30 PM (2612 views)
Re: Online services - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/10/2004 2:08:39 PM (3882 views)

Dear Jimmy and JD - I am sorry that you have lost your business because of what is going on.  I certainly had to restructure my business to the changing markets.  In my case, I choose to increase my counties that include counties that are not anywhere near being online much less on a computer.  I have also increased my client base because no matter what company chooses to use the online services there are certain orders they cannot find nor can they actually complete the order depending on the type of search.  I have utlized this method waiting for "the walls to come crashing in" and I think that is happening.  Too many mistakes, too many errors and too much liability is catching up on everyone and everything.  I personally found 2 closings that occurred after 2 local attorneys had filed AJ on properties.  They are both going after the title companies.  That was a 100% defect rate by anyone asking me to see if there was a closing after their AJ was filed.  I try to do my part in letting my clients know that online searches are not many times "official public" records nor do they have the search capabilities we have at the courthouse in order to cross-reference all our work which picks up errors in indexing by name and also in many of my online counties - the only way we can pick up assignments and releases on a property.  For example, one of my counties - Collin county - is on the Collin county online site but is not even done by the county clerk's office - it is done by the appraisal district.  No certification date - it is not done by them.  This site contains so many errors I cannot even go to the extent of listing.  Anyone utilizing this online site has to be crazy when it has to do with depending on legal documentation and the drafting of it.  I have done test runs myself running a name and seeing what is displayed and then going to the courthouse - in every case, every time I found more at the courthouse - bar none - and that doesn't even include when I'm able to use the additional resource of running the property by the legal description at the courthouse - our cross-referencing capability to guarantee a good search. 

Instead of going out of business, some people have chosen to take part-time night jobs to supplement themselves through this adjustment time and while I have not had to go this route - I think because I never stopped marketing - I did go this route when I first started and was building my clientele.  I learned my lesson in yr 2000 when interest rates were so high no one was buying new homes.  Title fell in a matter of months to an all time flat - I learned to diverse my business to include other services and try and balance it accordingly thinking if this would happen to the economy this service would drop but the other services might increase during this time.  It's all part of being a business owner.  Always retain your professional standards, integrity and honesty - because what goes around comes around and I know that some of the companies that may have put you out of your business may end up losing their own in the process when push comes to shove and the errors show up.  When the lending institutions and title companies complain and find out it wasnt an abstractor or person physically doing the search at the courthouse it will come back on them and some of these companies one client may mean millions to them not like thousands to us.  There are also abstractors that have started the online searching because pricing has dropped so much because the thought was it could be done online.  I'm sure these are the ones that are coming up with the missed AJ's, etc.  To do the online search the abstractor risked their honesty and integrity because they knew better - they knew the courthouse had a much more sophisticated system and they too will be weeded out.  I believe that once the weeding takes place the volume of work will resume.

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Re: Online services - David Bloys/TX
11/10/2004 4:11:13 PM (3851 views)
Re: Online services - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 4:47:35 PM (3967 views)
Re: Online services - Robert Breakell/CT
11/10/2004 7:28:19 PM (3917 views)
Re: Online services - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 8:29:23 PM (3792 views)
Re: Online services - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/10/2004 2:08:40 PM (3795 views)
Re: Online services - John OConnor/IL
11/11/2004 1:00:53 PM (3790 views)
Re: Online services - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/11/2004 5:04:33 PM (3770 views)
Re: Online services - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/11/2004 5:04:34 PM (3774 views)
Re: Online services - Donna Grady/NC
11/11/2004 8:44:14 PM (3754 views)
Re: Online services - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/11/2004 9:21:03 PM (3777 views)
Re: Online services - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/12/2004 4:55:29 AM (3729 views)
Re: Online services - Donna Grady/NC
11/13/2004 10:28:21 AM (3717 views)

online searchers put me out of buss. - JD Smith/SC
11/10/2004 12:18:49 PM (2582 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 1:06:57 PM (4032 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - terezia pataki/FL
11/10/2004 2:14:13 PM (3955 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/10/2004 2:41:38 PM (3985 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 3:40:08 PM (3854 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Ellen Malloy/MO
11/10/2004 3:02:54 PM (3863 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/10/2004 6:32:29 PM (3889 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Robert Breakell/CT
11/10/2004 7:24:16 PM (3937 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Ellen Malloy/MO
11/10/2004 8:40:57 PM (3804 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Michelle Bernard/LA
11/11/2004 7:44:40 PM (3778 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - kevin ahern/CT
11/11/2004 5:56:45 AM (3739 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Robert Breakell/CT
11/11/2004 12:05:21 PM (3666 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - kevin ahern/CT
11/11/2004 12:28:34 PM (3743 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Kurt deVries/FL
11/12/2004 1:48:22 PM (3758 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/13/2004 1:08:53 AM (3772 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/13/2004 12:18:51 PM (3649 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/13/2004 5:21:19 PM (3671 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Jimmy Smith/PA
11/13/2004 11:46:30 AM (3748 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/13/2004 4:56:45 PM (3739 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Jimmy Smith/PA
11/15/2004 5:04:38 PM (3674 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/15/2004 6:00:27 PM (3700 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/15/2004 8:46:35 PM (3735 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Ray Fellows/MA
11/15/2004 2:57:56 PM (3591 views)
Re: online searchers put me out of buss. - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/16/2004 1:23:12 AM (3636 views)


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infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Traci/AL
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Re: infoTrack - Frank Navarro - Donna Grady/NC
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Competing With Online Searches - Compass Abstracts/FL
11/10/2004 12:25:40 AM (2549 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Re: Competing With Online Searches - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Competing With Online Searches - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Re: Competing With Online Searches - Compass Abstracts/FL
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Re: Competing With Online Searches - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Competing With Online Searches - Compass Abstracts/FL
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Re: Competing With Online Searches - Rebecca Barney/FL
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Re: Competing With Online Searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/10/2004 5:43:16 PM (3514 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Competing With Online Searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
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Re: Competing With Online Searches - Jeanne Johnson/MN
11/11/2004 1:53:53 PM (3586 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Compass Abstracts/FL
11/12/2004 12:13:11 AM (3504 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/12/2004 6:06:17 PM (3345 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Compass Abstracts/FL
11/12/2004 11:29:13 PM (3442 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/13/2004 1:18:57 AM (3466 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Robert Franco/OH
11/13/2004 4:44:23 PM (3555 views)
Re: Competing With Online Searches - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/13/2004 5:26:40 PM (3439 views)

Associations - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/9/2004 5:01:27 PM (2355 views)
Re: Associations - Robert Breakell/CT
11/9/2004 8:43:35 PM (3420 views)
Re: Associations - Judy Nisonger/CA
11/10/2004 2:01:35 PM (3325 views)

Surfin' - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Post NALTEA Conference Meeting - Robert Franco/OH
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NCSTATE BAR TRYING TO SHUT DOWN INDEPENDENT PARALEGALS - Donna Grady/NC
11/9/2004 11:28:24 AM (2462 views)
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11/9/2004 8:02:24 PM (3388 views)
Re: NCSTATE BAR TRYING TO SHUT DOWN INDEPENDENT PARALEGALS - Donna Grady/NC
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Re: NCSTATE BAR TRYING TO SHUT DOWN INDEPENDENT PARALEGALS - Donna Grady/NC
11/9/2004 10:17:04 PM (3362 views)
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3000 - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/8/2004 5:20:02 PM (2302 views)
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11/8/2004 5:35:09 PM (3430 views)
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Zeno Data - Matthew DeLand/NY
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11/8/2004 5:30:31 PM (5759 views)
NO MACHINE CAN DO THIS JOB... - Scott Perry/PA
11/9/2004 8:19:46 PM (3384 views)
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11/9/2004 10:50:16 PM (3380 views)
Re: NO MACHINE CAN DO THIS JOB... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/9/2004 10:50:21 PM (3401 views)
Re: NO MACHINE CAN DO THIS JOB... - Robert Breakell/CT
11/10/2004 7:43:58 PM (3407 views)

3S Realserv - Lynn Hammett/SC
11/8/2004 2:57:49 PM (2459 views)
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Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - David Bloys/TX
11/8/2004 3:01:34 PM (3569 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - kevin ahern/CT
11/8/2004 3:58:08 PM (3538 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/8/2004 4:00:10 PM (3484 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - Robert Franco/OH
11/8/2004 4:20:15 PM (3530 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/9/2004 7:25:49 PM (3505 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/9/2004 8:05:24 PM (3447 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - kevin ahern/CT
11/10/2004 5:51:54 AM (3671 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/10/2004 11:03:03 AM (3509 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - Shannon Blatt/VA
11/10/2004 11:25:19 AM (3517 views)
Re: Searcher Owes Insurer For Missed Judgment - kevin ahern/CT
11/10/2004 4:07:28 PM (3429 views)


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