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late fees/interest ??? - Glenda Hodge/TN
1/3/2005 12:53:35 PM (2234 views)
Re: late fees/interest ??? - Charles Skinner/NY
1/3/2005 4:10:46 PM (3379 views)
Re: late fees/interest ??? - Margaret Sedy/CA
1/10/2005 3:08:48 PM (3457 views)
Re: late fees/interest ??? - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/10/2005 9:52:40 PM (3400 views)
Re: late fees/interest ??? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/11/2005 6:48:27 PM (3560 views)
Re: late fees/interest ??? - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/12/2005 3:42:50 PM (3374 views)
Re: late fees/interest ??? - kevin ahern/CT
1/3/2005 4:27:50 PM (3432 views)

THIS IS IT... - Jay Duncan/MO
1/3/2005 9:24:45 AM (2825 views)

Happy New Year! - Robert Franco/OH
12/31/2004 6:31:45 PM (2246 views)
Re: Happy New Year! - Jay Duncan
1/1/2005 11:43:50 AM (3585 views)

Little Scanner - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/31/2004 5:58:12 PM (2239 views)
Re: Little Scanner - Robert Franco/OH
12/31/2004 6:34:39 PM (3623 views)
Re: Little Scanner - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/31/2004 8:20:25 PM (3605 views)
Re: Little Scanner - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/1/2005 5:29:59 PM (3683 views)

Mortgage Fraud Epidemic - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 1:36:04 AM (3133 views)




Just trying to learn - Want to be an abstractor/OH
12/29/2004 6:58:06 PM (2290 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/29/2004 8:23:20 PM (3909 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Kurt deVries/FL
12/29/2004 10:01:18 PM (3745 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Want to be an abstractor/OH
12/29/2004 10:42:51 PM (3710 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 10:55:04 PM (3649 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - I wanna be/OH
12/30/2004 6:29:43 PM (3599 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/30/2004 6:50:51 PM (3710 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Robert Breakell/CT
12/30/2004 7:01:33 PM (3667 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - I wanna be/OH
12/30/2004 7:07:55 PM (3655 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - kevin ahern/CT
12/31/2004 6:33:26 AM (3633 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - susan kostalas/PA
1/2/2005 12:30:42 PM (3550 views)

SOT Hospitality Suite - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 5:30:26 PM (1714 views)

ZENO DATA? - Rebecca Barney/FL
12/29/2004 3:51:01 PM (2664 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 4:17:50 PM (3682 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/29/2004 10:03:52 PM (3593 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/30/2004 4:56:37 PM (3757 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Robert Franco/OH
12/30/2004 5:13:51 PM (3595 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/30/2004 5:18:04 PM (3622 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - central search inc central search inc/WI
12/30/2004 3:26:30 PM (3706 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Rebecca Barney/FL
1/3/2005 9:38:49 AM (3758 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Rebecca Barney/FL
1/3/2005 9:41:01 AM (3664 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Kurt deVries/FL
1/3/2005 10:25:13 AM (3553 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/3/2005 12:19:10 PM (3582 views)

Confusing Instructions from Client - Larry Crooks/OH
12/29/2004 8:11:41 AM (2472 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 10:53:04 AM (3682 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Larry Crooks/OH
12/29/2004 1:49:56 PM (3602 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 1:57:11 PM (3693 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Rebecca Barney/FL
12/29/2004 10:54:45 AM (3516 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 11:03:05 AM (3579 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 11:15:26 AM (3651 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 6:18:12 PM (3477 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 6:50:57 PM (3437 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 10:55:56 PM (3444 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 12:38:52 PM (3597 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 12:38:55 PM (3654 views)

Ethics - Robert Breakell/CT
12/28/2004 6:55:44 PM (1873 views)

Follow-up on the E & O Article - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
12/27/2004 4:23:14 PM (1813 views)

Another Day Off - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/27/2004 12:16:13 AM (2460 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/27/2004 4:14:33 PM (3520 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/27/2004 5:14:23 PM (3564 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Robert Franco/OH
12/27/2004 5:22:04 PM (3460 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/27/2004 6:00:35 PM (3536 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/27/2004 11:29:18 PM (3518 views)

County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/26/2004 8:58:32 PM (3363 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/28/2004 2:29:51 PM (4832 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/28/2004 7:29:53 PM (3426 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/29/2004 5:41:02 AM (3418 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 8:28:11 AM (3364 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/29/2004 12:37:55 PM (3413 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 1:50:27 PM (3456 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/29/2004 3:18:01 PM (3511 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/29/2004 3:23:36 PM (5090 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 6:45:11 PM (3383 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/30/2004 10:42:05 AM (3402 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 2:45:26 PM (3413 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/30/2004 3:51:37 PM (3357 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 5:53:44 PM (5012 views)

The fact that you could check the accuracy of the information that I provided means that the data has already made its way into hundreds, if not thousands, of databases nationally, if not worldwide. 
Makes my point exactly. The information would not be out there if it had never been released in digital form. In fact I was unable to verify all of your information precisely because it is held within the four walls of your county courthouse instead of being spewed all over the world.

By posting it, I have not acted particularly recklessly, nor have I endangered myself or anyone else further than they were already endangered by the free and public information available.
Is this what you tell your clients concerning their information that may or may not already be available to the internet?

As for my clients and my client's customers, they are handled in a secure method to prevent unauthorized reciept or access by unintended parties.  Even if they were not, nothing the search operations division of CMS handles is anything other than public record.    

So if it is nothing except public record, why do you bother to protect your clients? It would be unethical and unprofessional to do otherwise but you want the county clerks to forget ethics and professionally for your convenience? Additionally your clients are under several laws restraining how they and you expose this information and to whom.

Charles, not everyones date of birth, social security number and other information you revealed and called the public record is in fact the public record. There are some 800 exemptions to the Public Records laws already concerning everything from your pets medical records to the indentity of minor children, to the identifiers of elected and appointed officials.

As for Al Qaeda and other terrorist and criminal organizations, you have to remember one thing.  In order to have a successful operation, you have to have personnel on the ground.  If they already have personnel on the ground here, what's to stop them from going to the county courthouses and looking up the information in person?

The completion of a successful mission begins with inteligence which no longer requires personell on the ground. We use sattelites and aircraft to gather much of the information we need. al Qada uses the internet in the same way. But we stupidly make it easy for them to gather 80% of all the information they need for a successful mission over the internet.

Identity thieves, stalkers and terrorist groups access the public records by the Internet for the sake of their own security and convenience. Identity thieves use it because it allows them to quickly steal thousands of identities while remaining totally anonymous. Stalker Liam Youens expressed suprise when he entered this on his website, "It's accually obsene what you can find out about a person on the internet." The information he had found cost Amy Boyer her life. Mortgage fraud scams are costing our clients millions and they are gathering the information they need with convenience of online access. 

Yes, all of these people could find this same information at the local courthouse, but they couldn't retrieve it in bulk digital form. They prefer internet access for the same reason you do Charles, convenience. The same reason your identity thief preffered to hack into the supposedly very secure database as opposed to finding it in the paper record at the courthouse. 

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Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
1/3/2005 10:23:22 AM (5025 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
1/4/2005 12:35:28 AM (4713 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
1/4/2005 9:25:02 AM (3282 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/30/2004 7:08:22 PM (3292 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 1:01:13 PM (3356 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 1:01:14 PM (3285 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Robert Franco/OH
12/30/2004 4:08:31 PM (3397 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 4:28:40 PM (3287 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/29/2004 7:15:27 PM (3270 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 10:18:32 PM (3276 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/30/2004 6:23:28 AM (3321 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/30/2004 6:23:30 AM (3288 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/31/2004 2:37:24 PM (3266 views)
Re: County purges Web site - John Redhead/NY
1/4/2005 10:55:11 AM (3247 views)

I was very excited to see... - Loretta Reed/MD
12/26/2004 10:50:19 AM (1919 views)

CHRISTMAS - Michelle Bernard/LA
12/25/2004 5:57:57 PM (1731 views)


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