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Glad I found this message board - Gregory Butzek/WI
12/13/2004 11:50:46 AM (1690 views)

Witness Only Closings - Danielle Nelson/WI
12/13/2004 11:48:27 AM (2507 views)
Re: Witness Only Closings - kevin ahern/CT
12/13/2004 1:26:46 PM (3093 views)
Re: Witness Only Closings - Susan Pullins/OH
12/13/2004 6:14:39 PM (4425 views)

211m U.S. residents' records for sale - David Bloys/TX
12/12/2004 10:28:35 PM (3217 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - Garland Burnett/NM
12/13/2004 4:12:02 AM (3074 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 8:34:14 AM (3034 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - kevin ahern/CT
12/13/2004 11:04:25 AM (3131 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 11:26:21 AM (3068 views)
Found the article - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 12:19:14 PM (3145 views)
Found her - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 3:50:01 PM (4494 views)

Bulk Release of public records - David Bloys/TX
12/12/2004 11:23:03 AM (2828 views)

Education - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/12/2004 1:28:00 AM (2101 views)
Survey Says - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/13/2004 9:50:01 PM (3005 views)


Real Title Services


ALTA, Hello??? Anyone there??? - Jay Duncan/MO
12/11/2004 12:27:52 PM (3373 views)

Self Serve title searches - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/10/2004 6:55:00 PM (3192 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/10/2004 7:24:48 PM (3220 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/11/2004 12:49:33 AM (3216 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - kevin ahern/CT
12/11/2004 6:50:05 AM (3285 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Kurt deVries/FL
12/13/2004 9:30:48 AM (3115 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/14/2004 10:07:42 AM (3160 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/14/2004 1:14:00 PM (4538 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/14/2004 2:16:01 PM (3165 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2004 2:58:15 PM (3113 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/14/2004 3:45:08 PM (3152 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/14/2004 4:41:42 PM (3137 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/14/2004 6:15:06 PM (3114 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/15/2004 10:13:20 AM (3142 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 11:11:56 AM (4678 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/15/2004 2:09:18 PM (3130 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 3:15:08 PM (3184 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/15/2004 4:22:32 PM (3129 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 5:16:14 PM (3148 views)

Actually it is happening both ways.

In Texas for example the new law allows Police, Security Guards and certian other groups are allowed to have their records excepted from dislosure in the public record under Section 552.117 of the Texas Public Records act as ammended.

In Texas, this clause first came to my attention when I attempted to get the tax information online with the Central Appraisal District. The online search showed no one by the subjects name as owning property in Lubbock County. I searched the property address given but the CAD Site reported that no such address existed in Lubbock County. But in this case, I knew that it did. I called the Central Appraisal District and a hesitant clerk told me that this information was confidential and she couldn't give me anything. She said a new law allowed police officers and polititions to have there records made confidential. I told her why I needed the information and she informed me that I would have to contact the subject and have him come down to sign a temporary release.

A couple of weeks later he did get around to signing the release but by the time I was notified the 24 hour release time had passed. We finally got to the records after another 10 days or so.

The records at the county clerks office were intact but I don't know if this was because he could not have his record excepted there or because he just didn't realize the same address, social security # and identity of relatives could also be found in those documents.

In some cases whole categories are being taken from view. Have you noticed how many State and Federal Tax liens, and Judgments are being missed now. They have been removed from the internet sites and often anything that relates to them as well is removed.

Florida will allow anyone to request that any social security numbers embeded in their documents be redacted. This could create a great burden on the clerks down there and in any case it would have no affect on those documents that have already been bulk released. 

Also in Florida:

 
In Volusia County, Fl it says:
Public Notice Regarding Public Records Pursuant to House Bills 1679:
Effective immediately, any person has a right to request the Clerk of the Circuit Court to remove an image or copy of a public record, including an official record from a publicly available internet website if that image or copy is of a military discharge; death certificate; or a court file, record or paper relating to matters or cases governed by the Florida Rules of Family Law, the Florida Rules of Juvenile Procedure or the Florida Probate Rules. Such request must be made in writing and delivered by mail, facsimile, or electronic transmission, or in person. The request must identify the document identification book and page number of the document to be removed. 

Los Angeles County California real estate records are not online.Neither is any other California county that I know of because Section 6254.21 of the Government Code prohibits the posting of home addresses on the internet of any elected or appointed official without his/her written permission. internet. 

If they are releasing this information to anyone in bulk digital form then this law offers no real protection to those it was intended to protect.

So it depends on the local, state and federal laws as to how this information is being taken from public view. There is new legislation popping up all over the country with new exceptions as more and more legislatures try to protect their constituents from the bulk release of the public record. It affects the accuracy and completeness of the records themselves. This sort of thing happened only rarely until counties began digitizing and releasing the public records for publication over the internet.
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Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/15/2004 6:29:10 PM (3090 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 8:15:17 PM (3110 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2004 2:05:32 PM (3085 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/15/2004 11:38:13 AM (3007 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - kevin ahern/CT
12/15/2004 7:24:57 AM (3126 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/15/2004 3:58:18 PM (3061 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Michelle Bernard/LA
12/13/2004 6:31:11 PM (3102 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/11/2004 12:14:16 PM (3180 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - John Redhead/NY
12/14/2004 12:13:49 PM (3125 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/14/2004 6:29:35 PM (3134 views)

Is Your Business Worth It??? - Jay Duncan/MO
12/10/2004 6:02:18 PM (2624 views)

infinity data - Robert Breakell/CT
12/10/2004 8:53:35 AM (2300 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 9:47:46 AM (3193 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Breakell/CT
12/10/2004 3:58:48 PM (3061 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 1:02:43 PM (3085 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Breakell/CT
12/10/2004 3:49:12 PM (3086 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 4:19:45 PM (3107 views)
Re: infinity data - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/10/2004 5:05:05 PM (3056 views)
Re: infinity data - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/10/2004 6:34:52 PM (2882 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 6:54:49 PM (2968 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 6:51:46 PM (3027 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 8:06:25 PM (2941 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 7:24:35 PM (2901 views)
Re: infinity data - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/11/2004 11:58:01 AM (2932 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/11/2004 1:04:18 PM (2962 views)
Re: infinity data - Jay Duncan/MO
12/11/2004 4:15:11 PM (2971 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 6:55:13 PM (2906 views)
Re: infinity data - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/10/2004 7:18:23 PM (2779 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 7:35:47 PM (2797 views)
Re: infinity data - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/11/2004 12:35:05 AM (2764 views)
Re: infinity data - kevin ahern/CT
12/11/2004 6:26:32 AM (2951 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/11/2004 10:25:01 AM (2783 views)
Re: infinity data - Jay Duncan/MO
12/11/2004 11:55:46 AM (2811 views)
Re: infinity data - kevin ahern/CT
12/11/2004 1:11:30 PM (2856 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/12/2004 12:46:21 AM (2783 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/11/2004 1:17:36 PM (2671 views)
Re: infinity data - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/11/2004 3:21:11 PM (2746 views)
Re: infinity data - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/12/2004 1:32:47 PM (2754 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/12/2004 2:14:26 PM (2692 views)

Baby - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/9/2004 6:37:29 PM (2127 views)
Re: Baby - Robert Franco/OH
12/9/2004 6:43:12 PM (2853 views)
Re: Baby - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/10/2004 1:00:54 AM (2734 views)
Re: Baby - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/10/2004 1:01:10 AM (2796 views)
Re: Baby - Jay Duncan
12/10/2004 7:54:50 AM (2759 views)
Re: Baby - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/10/2004 10:25:55 AM (2848 views)

Maryland Dailup system - anonymous/MD
12/9/2004 8:45:59 AM (2200 views)
Re: Maryland Dailup system - Loretta Reed/MD
12/9/2004 11:39:17 PM (2738 views)

Identity Theft - Special on KERA last night - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2004 4:59:36 PM (2332 views)

Plat Maps - central search inc central search inc/WI
12/8/2004 9:24:34 AM (2278 views)
Re: Plat Maps - Garland Burnett/NM
12/13/2004 8:29:29 PM (3023 views)

Changing or dropping your E & O policy - Donna Grady/NC
12/8/2004 12:15:15 AM (2424 views)
Re: Changing or dropping your E & O policy - kevin ahern/CT
12/8/2004 4:59:46 AM (3119 views)
Re: Changing or dropping your E & O policy - Robert Franco/OH
12/8/2004 5:04:25 AM (3085 views)
Re: Changing or dropping your E & O policy - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2004 10:37:03 AM (3058 views)
Re: Changing or dropping your E & O policy - Robert Franco/OH
12/8/2004 2:26:38 PM (3117 views)
Re: Changing or dropping your E & O policy - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2004 4:49:42 PM (3165 views)
Re: Changing or dropping your E & O policy - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2004 4:49:44 PM (3193 views)

First Name First - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/7/2004 8:53:16 PM (2315 views)
Re: First Name First - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/7/2004 9:31:02 PM (3036 views)
Re: First Name First - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2004 10:24:47 AM (2955 views)
Re: First Name First - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/8/2004 4:10:48 PM (3089 views)
Re: First Name First - Robert Franco/OH
12/8/2004 4:21:35 PM (3002 views)
Re: First Name First - David Bloys/TX
12/8/2004 6:05:32 PM (3166 views)
Re: First Name First - David Bloys/TX
12/8/2004 6:17:46 PM (2977 views)
Re: First Name First - Robert Franco/OH
12/8/2004 7:11:14 PM (2981 views)
Re: First Name First - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2004 7:49:28 PM (2942 views)
Re: First Name First - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2004 7:45:50 PM (2919 views)
Re: First Name First - Jay Duncan/MO
12/8/2004 8:59:00 PM (3018 views)


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