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One Big Mess! - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/15/2004 2:43:07 AM (2308 views)
Re: One Big Mess! - Loretta Reed/MD
12/15/2004 9:00:28 AM (3067 views)
Re: One Big Mess! - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/15/2004 9:51:51 AM (3208 views)
Re: One Big Mess! - Robert Franco/OH
12/15/2004 10:46:02 AM (3161 views)
Re: One Big Mess! - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 11:20:43 AM (3186 views)
Re: One Big Mess! - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/15/2004 6:37:48 PM (3136 views)

Good tips! - Jay Duncan/MO
12/14/2004 9:08:36 AM (1770 views)

REMINDER! - Robert Franco/OH
12/13/2004 12:40:10 PM (2892 views)

Glad I found this message board - Gregory Butzek/WI
12/13/2004 11:50:46 AM (1762 views)

Witness Only Closings - Danielle Nelson/WI
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Re: Witness Only Closings - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: Witness Only Closings - Susan Pullins/OH
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211m U.S. residents' records for sale - David Bloys/TX
12/12/2004 10:28:35 PM (3259 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - Garland Burnett/NM
12/13/2004 4:12:02 AM (3176 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 8:34:14 AM (3132 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - kevin ahern/CT
12/13/2004 11:04:25 AM (3229 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 11:26:21 AM (3174 views)
Found the article - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 12:19:14 PM (3253 views)
Found her - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 3:50:01 PM (4589 views)

Bulk Release of public records - David Bloys/TX
12/12/2004 11:23:03 AM (2860 views)

Education - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/12/2004 1:28:00 AM (2140 views)
Survey Says - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/13/2004 9:50:01 PM (3101 views)

ALTA, Hello??? Anyone there??? - Jay Duncan/MO
12/11/2004 12:27:52 PM (3401 views)

Self Serve title searches - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/10/2004 6:55:00 PM (3235 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/10/2004 7:24:48 PM (3312 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/11/2004 12:49:33 AM (3303 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - kevin ahern/CT
12/11/2004 6:50:05 AM (3382 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Kurt deVries/FL
12/13/2004 9:30:48 AM (3172 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/14/2004 10:07:42 AM (3242 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/14/2004 1:14:00 PM (4635 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/14/2004 2:16:01 PM (3249 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2004 2:58:15 PM (3201 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/14/2004 3:45:08 PM (3236 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/14/2004 4:41:42 PM (3206 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/14/2004 6:15:06 PM (3203 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/15/2004 10:13:20 AM (3215 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 11:11:56 AM (4777 views)

Good arguments Robert but it brings up another point.

PUBLIC - By the term the public, is meant the whole body politic, or all the citizens of the state; sometimes it signifies the inhabitants of a particular place; as, the New York public. From the Lectric Law Library http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/p199.htm
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Making the American Public Records available over the internet makes those records available to anyone, anwhere, for any purpose. From the real property records terrorists are able to easily locate high pressure gas lines, electrical substations, chemical plants and many other known targets of convenience including the personal information of our leaders and their families.

The nineteen 911 terrorists were found to have over 50 drivers licenses from several states taken from stolen identities.

Your scenario of giving every Citizen of Texas a complete copy of the public record makes my point. First they would be the citizens of Texas and not the citizens the world. Second the fact they would have to flip through all the records is insures the practical obscurity that has protected American Citizens from unwarranted and casual examination of their records until the digital record was released worldwide through the internet.

Can you show me anywhere USA today has ever published the social security numbers, dates of birth, or home addresses of anyone? Yes they could under the laws but as a responsible news agency they don't.

Acces over the internet is only made possible by the digitization and mass transfer of the digitized public records from the public trust to private companies with their own purposes. Aggredization of the private records of American citizens is only made efficient when the records are digitized. Can you show me any instance where any company anywhere ever demanded all the paper public records contained in the real property records of a county. It just wasn't practical with paper records. But you will find these bulk requests for the bulk digital public record almost anywhere the county has digitized those records.

All over the country legislators are trying to deal with this problem. Most often they put bandaids on the hemorrhaging of the public record by pulling back affected records of certain groups such as police offiicers, elected and appointed officials, leaving the rest of us exposed. Or they make confidential entire subsections of previously open records such as the DMV records in California after Rebecca Shaefer was killed.

The digitization and bulk release of the public record and easy access worldwide threatens not only the individuals whose private information is contained in the records. It threatens the accuracy of the public records themselves as legislators try to deal with the problem by creating more and more exclusions. 

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Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/15/2004 2:09:18 PM (3217 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 3:15:08 PM (3272 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/15/2004 4:22:32 PM (3221 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 5:16:14 PM (3238 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/15/2004 6:29:10 PM (3188 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 8:15:17 PM (3203 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2004 2:05:32 PM (3174 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/15/2004 11:38:13 AM (3085 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - kevin ahern/CT
12/15/2004 7:24:57 AM (3215 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/15/2004 3:58:18 PM (3152 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Michelle Bernard/LA
12/13/2004 6:31:11 PM (3193 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/11/2004 12:14:16 PM (3272 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - John Redhead/NY
12/14/2004 12:13:49 PM (3218 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/14/2004 6:29:35 PM (3223 views)

Is Your Business Worth It??? - Jay Duncan/MO
12/10/2004 6:02:18 PM (2654 views)

infinity data - Robert Breakell/CT
12/10/2004 8:53:35 AM (2345 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 9:47:46 AM (3280 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Breakell/CT
12/10/2004 3:58:48 PM (3152 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 1:02:43 PM (3178 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Breakell/CT
12/10/2004 3:49:12 PM (3177 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 4:19:45 PM (3198 views)
Re: infinity data - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/10/2004 5:05:05 PM (3155 views)
Re: infinity data - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/10/2004 6:34:52 PM (2953 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 6:54:49 PM (3060 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 6:51:46 PM (3122 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 8:06:25 PM (3038 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 7:24:35 PM (2996 views)
Re: infinity data - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/11/2004 11:58:01 AM (3018 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/11/2004 1:04:18 PM (3037 views)
Re: infinity data - Jay Duncan/MO
12/11/2004 4:15:11 PM (3056 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 6:55:13 PM (2998 views)
Re: infinity data - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/10/2004 7:18:23 PM (2850 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 7:35:47 PM (2891 views)
Re: infinity data - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/11/2004 12:35:05 AM (2844 views)
Re: infinity data - kevin ahern/CT
12/11/2004 6:26:32 AM (3033 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/11/2004 10:25:01 AM (2876 views)
Re: infinity data - Jay Duncan/MO
12/11/2004 11:55:46 AM (2901 views)
Re: infinity data - kevin ahern/CT
12/11/2004 1:11:30 PM (2949 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/12/2004 12:46:21 AM (2877 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/11/2004 1:17:36 PM (2745 views)
Re: infinity data - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/11/2004 3:21:11 PM (2843 views)
Re: infinity data - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/12/2004 1:32:47 PM (2849 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/12/2004 2:14:26 PM (2782 views)

Baby - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/9/2004 6:37:29 PM (2161 views)
Re: Baby - Robert Franco/OH
12/9/2004 6:43:12 PM (2940 views)
Re: Baby - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/10/2004 1:00:54 AM (2816 views)
Re: Baby - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/10/2004 1:01:10 AM (2883 views)
Re: Baby - Jay Duncan
12/10/2004 7:54:50 AM (2850 views)
Re: Baby - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/10/2004 10:25:55 AM (2937 views)

Maryland Dailup system - anonymous/MD
12/9/2004 8:45:59 AM (2237 views)
Re: Maryland Dailup system - Loretta Reed/MD
12/9/2004 11:39:17 PM (2810 views)

Identity Theft - Special on KERA last night - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2004 4:59:36 PM (2363 views)


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