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Glad I found this message board - Gregory Butzek/WI
12/13/2004 11:50:46 AM (1690 views)

Witness Only Closings - Danielle Nelson/WI
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Re: Witness Only Closings - kevin ahern/CT
12/13/2004 1:26:46 PM (3093 views)
Re: Witness Only Closings - Susan Pullins/OH
12/13/2004 6:14:39 PM (4425 views)

211m U.S. residents' records for sale - David Bloys/TX
12/12/2004 10:28:35 PM (3217 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - Garland Burnett/NM
12/13/2004 4:12:02 AM (3074 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 8:34:14 AM (3034 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - kevin ahern/CT
12/13/2004 11:04:25 AM (3131 views)
Re: 211m U.S. residents' records for sale - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 11:26:21 AM (3068 views)
Found the article - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 12:19:14 PM (3145 views)
Found her - David Bloys/TX
12/13/2004 3:50:01 PM (4494 views)

Bulk Release of public records - David Bloys/TX
12/12/2004 11:23:03 AM (2828 views)

Education - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/12/2004 1:28:00 AM (2101 views)
Survey Says - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/13/2004 9:50:01 PM (3005 views)


Real Title Services


ALTA, Hello??? Anyone there??? - Jay Duncan/MO
12/11/2004 12:27:52 PM (3373 views)

Self Serve title searches - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/10/2004 6:55:00 PM (3192 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/10/2004 7:24:48 PM (3219 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/11/2004 12:49:33 AM (3216 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - kevin ahern/CT
12/11/2004 6:50:05 AM (3284 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Kurt deVries/FL
12/13/2004 9:30:48 AM (3114 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/14/2004 10:07:42 AM (3159 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/14/2004 1:14:00 PM (4537 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/14/2004 2:16:01 PM (3164 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2004 2:58:15 PM (3112 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/14/2004 3:45:08 PM (3151 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/14/2004 4:41:42 PM (3136 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/14/2004 6:15:06 PM (3113 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/15/2004 10:13:20 AM (3141 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 11:11:56 AM (4677 views)

Good arguments Robert but it brings up another point.

PUBLIC - By the term the public, is meant the whole body politic, or all the citizens of the state; sometimes it signifies the inhabitants of a particular place; as, the New York public. From the Lectric Law Library http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/p199.htm
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Making the American Public Records available over the internet makes those records available to anyone, anwhere, for any purpose. From the real property records terrorists are able to easily locate high pressure gas lines, electrical substations, chemical plants and many other known targets of convenience including the personal information of our leaders and their families.

The nineteen 911 terrorists were found to have over 50 drivers licenses from several states taken from stolen identities.

Your scenario of giving every Citizen of Texas a complete copy of the public record makes my point. First they would be the citizens of Texas and not the citizens the world. Second the fact they would have to flip through all the records is insures the practical obscurity that has protected American Citizens from unwarranted and casual examination of their records until the digital record was released worldwide through the internet.

Can you show me anywhere USA today has ever published the social security numbers, dates of birth, or home addresses of anyone? Yes they could under the laws but as a responsible news agency they don't.

Acces over the internet is only made possible by the digitization and mass transfer of the digitized public records from the public trust to private companies with their own purposes. Aggredization of the private records of American citizens is only made efficient when the records are digitized. Can you show me any instance where any company anywhere ever demanded all the paper public records contained in the real property records of a county. It just wasn't practical with paper records. But you will find these bulk requests for the bulk digital public record almost anywhere the county has digitized those records.

All over the country legislators are trying to deal with this problem. Most often they put bandaids on the hemorrhaging of the public record by pulling back affected records of certain groups such as police offiicers, elected and appointed officials, leaving the rest of us exposed. Or they make confidential entire subsections of previously open records such as the DMV records in California after Rebecca Shaefer was killed.

The digitization and bulk release of the public record and easy access worldwide threatens not only the individuals whose private information is contained in the records. It threatens the accuracy of the public records themselves as legislators try to deal with the problem by creating more and more exclusions. 

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Re: Self Serve title searches - Charles Skinner/NY
12/15/2004 2:09:18 PM (3130 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 3:15:08 PM (3184 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/15/2004 4:22:32 PM (3129 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 5:16:14 PM (3148 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/15/2004 6:29:10 PM (3089 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2004 8:15:17 PM (3109 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2004 2:05:32 PM (3085 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/15/2004 11:38:13 AM (3007 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - kevin ahern/CT
12/15/2004 7:24:57 AM (3126 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/15/2004 3:58:18 PM (3060 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Michelle Bernard/LA
12/13/2004 6:31:11 PM (3101 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/11/2004 12:14:16 PM (3179 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - John Redhead/NY
12/14/2004 12:13:49 PM (3124 views)
Re: Self Serve title searches - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/14/2004 6:29:35 PM (3133 views)

Is Your Business Worth It??? - Jay Duncan/MO
12/10/2004 6:02:18 PM (2624 views)

infinity data - Robert Breakell/CT
12/10/2004 8:53:35 AM (2300 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 9:47:46 AM (3192 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Breakell/CT
12/10/2004 3:58:48 PM (3061 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 1:02:43 PM (3084 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Breakell/CT
12/10/2004 3:49:12 PM (3085 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 4:19:45 PM (3107 views)
Re: infinity data - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/10/2004 5:05:05 PM (3056 views)
Re: infinity data - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/10/2004 6:34:52 PM (2881 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 6:54:49 PM (2967 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/10/2004 6:51:46 PM (3027 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 8:06:25 PM (2940 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 7:24:35 PM (2900 views)
Re: infinity data - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/11/2004 11:58:01 AM (2932 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/11/2004 1:04:18 PM (2960 views)
Re: infinity data - Jay Duncan/MO
12/11/2004 4:15:11 PM (2970 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 6:55:13 PM (2906 views)
Re: infinity data - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/10/2004 7:18:23 PM (2778 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/10/2004 7:35:47 PM (2796 views)
Re: infinity data - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/11/2004 12:35:05 AM (2763 views)
Re: infinity data - kevin ahern/CT
12/11/2004 6:26:32 AM (2950 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/11/2004 10:25:01 AM (2782 views)
Re: infinity data - Jay Duncan/MO
12/11/2004 11:55:46 AM (2810 views)
Re: infinity data - kevin ahern/CT
12/11/2004 1:11:30 PM (2855 views)
Re: infinity data - Robert Franco/OH
12/12/2004 12:46:21 AM (2782 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/11/2004 1:17:36 PM (2671 views)
Re: infinity data - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/11/2004 3:21:11 PM (2745 views)
Re: infinity data - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/12/2004 1:32:47 PM (2754 views)
Re: infinity data - David Bloys/TX
12/12/2004 2:14:26 PM (2692 views)

Baby - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/9/2004 6:37:29 PM (2127 views)
Re: Baby - Robert Franco/OH
12/9/2004 6:43:12 PM (2852 views)
Re: Baby - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/10/2004 1:00:54 AM (2733 views)
Re: Baby - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/10/2004 1:01:10 AM (2795 views)
Re: Baby - Jay Duncan
12/10/2004 7:54:50 AM (2758 views)
Re: Baby - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/10/2004 10:25:55 AM (2847 views)

Maryland Dailup system - anonymous/MD
12/9/2004 8:45:59 AM (2200 views)
Re: Maryland Dailup system - Loretta Reed/MD
12/9/2004 11:39:17 PM (2737 views)

Identity Theft - Special on KERA last night - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2004 4:59:36 PM (2332 views)

Plat Maps - central search inc central search inc/WI
12/8/2004 9:24:34 AM (2278 views)
Re: Plat Maps - Garland Burnett/NM
12/13/2004 8:29:29 PM (3023 views)

Changing or dropping your E & O policy - Donna Grady/NC
12/8/2004 12:15:15 AM (2424 views)
Re: Changing or dropping your E & O policy - kevin ahern/CT
12/8/2004 4:59:46 AM (3118 views)
Re: Changing or dropping your E & O policy - Robert Franco/OH
12/8/2004 5:04:25 AM (3084 views)
Re: Changing or dropping your E & O policy - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2004 10:37:03 AM (3057 views)
Re: Changing or dropping your E & O policy - Robert Franco/OH
12/8/2004 2:26:38 PM (3117 views)
Re: Changing or dropping your E & O policy - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2004 4:49:42 PM (3164 views)
Re: Changing or dropping your E & O policy - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2004 4:49:44 PM (3192 views)

First Name First - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/7/2004 8:53:16 PM (2315 views)
Re: First Name First - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/7/2004 9:31:02 PM (3035 views)
Re: First Name First - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2004 10:24:47 AM (2955 views)
Re: First Name First - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/8/2004 4:10:48 PM (3088 views)
Re: First Name First - Robert Franco/OH
12/8/2004 4:21:35 PM (3002 views)
Re: First Name First - David Bloys/TX
12/8/2004 6:05:32 PM (3165 views)
Re: First Name First - David Bloys/TX
12/8/2004 6:17:46 PM (2976 views)
Re: First Name First - Robert Franco/OH
12/8/2004 7:11:14 PM (2980 views)
Re: First Name First - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2004 7:49:28 PM (2942 views)
Re: First Name First - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2004 7:45:50 PM (2918 views)
Re: First Name First - Jay Duncan/MO
12/8/2004 8:59:00 PM (3017 views)


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