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Happy New Year! - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Happy New Year! - Jay Duncan
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Little Scanner - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Re: Little Scanner - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Little Scanner - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Little Scanner - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/1/2005 5:29:59 PM (3344 views)

Mortgage Fraud Epidemic - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 1:36:04 AM (3020 views)

Just trying to learn - Want to be an abstractor/OH
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Re: Just trying to learn - Douglas Gallant/OH
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Re: Just trying to learn - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Just trying to learn - Want to be an abstractor/OH
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Re: Just trying to learn - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Just trying to learn - I wanna be/OH
12/30/2004 6:29:43 PM (3297 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/30/2004 6:50:51 PM (3394 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Robert Breakell/CT
12/30/2004 7:01:33 PM (3363 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - I wanna be/OH
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Re: Just trying to learn - kevin ahern/CT
12/31/2004 6:33:26 AM (3334 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - susan kostalas/PA
1/2/2005 12:30:42 PM (3238 views)

SOT Hospitality Suite - Robert Franco/OH
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ZENO DATA? - Rebecca Barney/FL
12/29/2004 3:51:01 PM (2577 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 4:17:50 PM (3371 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/29/2004 10:03:52 PM (3281 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/30/2004 4:56:37 PM (3444 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Robert Franco/OH
12/30/2004 5:13:51 PM (3255 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/30/2004 5:18:04 PM (3320 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - central search inc central search inc/WI
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Re: ZENO DATA? - Rebecca Barney/FL
1/3/2005 9:38:49 AM (3462 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Rebecca Barney/FL
1/3/2005 9:41:01 AM (3348 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Kurt deVries/FL
1/3/2005 10:25:13 AM (3243 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/3/2005 12:19:10 PM (3268 views)

Confusing Instructions from Client - Larry Crooks/OH
12/29/2004 8:11:41 AM (2382 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 10:53:04 AM (3328 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Larry Crooks/OH
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Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Rebecca Barney/FL
12/29/2004 10:54:45 AM (3164 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 11:03:05 AM (3226 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 11:15:26 AM (3328 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 6:18:12 PM (3144 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 6:50:57 PM (3078 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 10:55:56 PM (3090 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 12:38:52 PM (3263 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 12:38:55 PM (3302 views)

Ethics - Robert Breakell/CT
12/28/2004 6:55:44 PM (1751 views)

Follow-up on the E & O Article - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
12/27/2004 4:23:14 PM (1715 views)

Another Day Off - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/27/2004 12:16:13 AM (2342 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/27/2004 4:14:33 PM (3165 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/27/2004 5:14:23 PM (3202 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Robert Franco/OH
12/27/2004 5:22:04 PM (3126 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/27/2004 6:00:35 PM (3196 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/27/2004 11:29:18 PM (3157 views)

County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/26/2004 8:58:32 PM (3264 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/28/2004 2:29:51 PM (4485 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/28/2004 7:29:53 PM (3050 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/29/2004 5:41:02 AM (3040 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 8:28:11 AM (3002 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/29/2004 12:37:55 PM (3039 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 1:50:27 PM (3087 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/29/2004 3:18:01 PM (3166 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/29/2004 3:23:36 PM (4713 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 6:45:11 PM (3009 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/30/2004 10:42:05 AM (3072 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 2:45:26 PM (3039 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/30/2004 3:51:37 PM (2970 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 5:53:44 PM (4657 views)

The fact that you could check the accuracy of the information that I provided means that the data has already made its way into hundreds, if not thousands, of databases nationally, if not worldwide. 
Makes my point exactly. The information would not be out there if it had never been released in digital form. In fact I was unable to verify all of your information precisely because it is held within the four walls of your county courthouse instead of being spewed all over the world.

By posting it, I have not acted particularly recklessly, nor have I endangered myself or anyone else further than they were already endangered by the free and public information available.
Is this what you tell your clients concerning their information that may or may not already be available to the internet?

As for my clients and my client's customers, they are handled in a secure method to prevent unauthorized reciept or access by unintended parties.  Even if they were not, nothing the search operations division of CMS handles is anything other than public record.    

So if it is nothing except public record, why do you bother to protect your clients? It would be unethical and unprofessional to do otherwise but you want the county clerks to forget ethics and professionally for your convenience? Additionally your clients are under several laws restraining how they and you expose this information and to whom.

Charles, not everyones date of birth, social security number and other information you revealed and called the public record is in fact the public record. There are some 800 exemptions to the Public Records laws already concerning everything from your pets medical records to the indentity of minor children, to the identifiers of elected and appointed officials.

As for Al Qaeda and other terrorist and criminal organizations, you have to remember one thing.  In order to have a successful operation, you have to have personnel on the ground.  If they already have personnel on the ground here, what's to stop them from going to the county courthouses and looking up the information in person?

The completion of a successful mission begins with inteligence which no longer requires personell on the ground. We use sattelites and aircraft to gather much of the information we need. al Qada uses the internet in the same way. But we stupidly make it easy for them to gather 80% of all the information they need for a successful mission over the internet.

Identity thieves, stalkers and terrorist groups access the public records by the Internet for the sake of their own security and convenience. Identity thieves use it because it allows them to quickly steal thousands of identities while remaining totally anonymous. Stalker Liam Youens expressed suprise when he entered this on his website, "It's accually obsene what you can find out about a person on the internet." The information he had found cost Amy Boyer her life. Mortgage fraud scams are costing our clients millions and they are gathering the information they need with convenience of online access. 

Yes, all of these people could find this same information at the local courthouse, but they couldn't retrieve it in bulk digital form. They prefer internet access for the same reason you do Charles, convenience. The same reason your identity thief preffered to hack into the supposedly very secure database as opposed to finding it in the paper record at the courthouse. 

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Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
1/3/2005 10:23:22 AM (4665 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
1/4/2005 12:35:28 AM (4365 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
1/4/2005 9:25:02 AM (2950 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/30/2004 7:08:22 PM (2909 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 1:01:13 PM (2989 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: County purges Web site - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
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Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
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Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: County purges Web site - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Re: County purges Web site - John Redhead/NY
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I was very excited to see... - Loretta Reed/MD
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CHRISTMAS - Michelle Bernard/LA
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Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Jennifer Masters/MI
12/23/2004 2:04:47 AM (2294 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Kim Cowles/WI
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Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
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Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - kevin ahern/CT
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Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Douglas Gallant/OH
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Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Larry Crooks/OH
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Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Jennifer Masters/MI
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Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Jennifer Masters/MI
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75 and counting!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
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