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I want to become a title abstractor - Barlow Humphreys/NY
1/3/2005 6:01:30 PM (2356 views)
Re: I want to become a title abstractor - Jamie Shoemaker/NY
1/3/2005 8:55:49 PM (3280 views)
A little help...best wishes - Michael Toebe/KS
1/5/2005 6:42:45 PM (2944 views)

late fees/interest ??? - Glenda Hodge/TN
1/3/2005 12:53:35 PM (2116 views)
Re: late fees/interest ??? - Charles Skinner/NY
1/3/2005 4:10:46 PM (2918 views)
Re: late fees/interest ??? - Margaret Sedy/CA
1/10/2005 3:08:48 PM (2961 views)
Re: late fees/interest ??? - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/10/2005 9:52:40 PM (2960 views)
Re: late fees/interest ??? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/11/2005 6:48:27 PM (3042 views)
Re: late fees/interest ??? - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/12/2005 3:42:50 PM (2898 views)
Re: late fees/interest ??? - kevin ahern/CT
1/3/2005 4:27:50 PM (2968 views)

THIS IS IT... - Jay Duncan/MO
1/3/2005 9:24:45 AM (2690 views)

Happy New Year! - Robert Franco/OH
12/31/2004 6:31:45 PM (2071 views)
Re: Happy New Year! - Jay Duncan
1/1/2005 11:43:50 AM (3069 views)

Little Scanner - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/31/2004 5:58:12 PM (2073 views)
Re: Little Scanner - Robert Franco/OH
12/31/2004 6:34:39 PM (3087 views)
Re: Little Scanner - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/31/2004 8:20:25 PM (3127 views)
Re: Little Scanner - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/1/2005 5:29:59 PM (3121 views)




Mortgage Fraud Epidemic - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 1:36:04 AM (2937 views)

Just trying to learn - Want to be an abstractor/OH
12/29/2004 6:58:06 PM (2128 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/29/2004 8:23:20 PM (3322 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Kurt deVries/FL
12/29/2004 10:01:18 PM (3183 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Want to be an abstractor/OH
12/29/2004 10:42:51 PM (3195 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 10:55:04 PM (3161 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - I wanna be/OH
12/30/2004 6:29:43 PM (3121 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/30/2004 6:50:51 PM (3168 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - Robert Breakell/CT
12/30/2004 7:01:33 PM (3145 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - I wanna be/OH
12/30/2004 7:07:55 PM (3124 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - kevin ahern/CT
12/31/2004 6:33:26 AM (3142 views)
Re: Just trying to learn - susan kostalas/PA
1/2/2005 12:30:42 PM (3045 views)

SOT Hospitality Suite - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 5:30:26 PM (1555 views)

ZENO DATA? - Rebecca Barney/FL
12/29/2004 3:51:01 PM (2501 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 4:17:50 PM (3191 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/29/2004 10:03:52 PM (3102 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/30/2004 4:56:37 PM (3269 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Robert Franco/OH
12/30/2004 5:13:51 PM (3067 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/30/2004 5:18:04 PM (3106 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - central search inc central search inc/WI
12/30/2004 3:26:30 PM (3210 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Rebecca Barney/FL
1/3/2005 9:38:49 AM (3288 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Rebecca Barney/FL
1/3/2005 9:41:01 AM (3138 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Kurt deVries/FL
1/3/2005 10:25:13 AM (3052 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/3/2005 12:19:10 PM (3081 views)

Confusing Instructions from Client - Larry Crooks/OH
12/29/2004 8:11:41 AM (2316 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 10:53:04 AM (3132 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Larry Crooks/OH
12/29/2004 1:49:56 PM (3041 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 1:57:11 PM (3125 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Rebecca Barney/FL
12/29/2004 10:54:45 AM (2978 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 11:03:05 AM (3032 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 11:15:26 AM (3124 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 6:18:12 PM (2935 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 6:50:57 PM (2903 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 10:55:56 PM (2903 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 12:38:52 PM (3058 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 12:38:55 PM (3076 views)

Ethics - Robert Breakell/CT
12/28/2004 6:55:44 PM (1697 views)

Follow-up on the E & O Article - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
12/27/2004 4:23:14 PM (1660 views)

Another Day Off - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/27/2004 12:16:13 AM (2278 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/27/2004 4:14:33 PM (2971 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/27/2004 5:14:23 PM (3001 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Robert Franco/OH
12/27/2004 5:22:04 PM (2933 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/27/2004 6:00:35 PM (2993 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/27/2004 11:29:18 PM (2945 views)

County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/26/2004 8:58:32 PM (3197 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/28/2004 2:29:51 PM (4278 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/28/2004 7:29:53 PM (2852 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/29/2004 5:41:02 AM (2856 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 8:28:11 AM (2794 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/29/2004 12:37:55 PM (2847 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 1:50:27 PM (2885 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/29/2004 3:18:01 PM (2952 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/29/2004 3:23:36 PM (4479 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 6:45:11 PM (2788 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/30/2004 10:42:05 AM (2834 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 2:45:26 PM (2849 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/30/2004 3:51:37 PM (2773 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 5:53:44 PM (4444 views)

The fact that you could check the accuracy of the information that I provided means that the data has already made its way into hundreds, if not thousands, of databases nationally, if not worldwide. 
Makes my point exactly. The information would not be out there if it had never been released in digital form. In fact I was unable to verify all of your information precisely because it is held within the four walls of your county courthouse instead of being spewed all over the world.

By posting it, I have not acted particularly recklessly, nor have I endangered myself or anyone else further than they were already endangered by the free and public information available.
Is this what you tell your clients concerning their information that may or may not already be available to the internet?

As for my clients and my client's customers, they are handled in a secure method to prevent unauthorized reciept or access by unintended parties.  Even if they were not, nothing the search operations division of CMS handles is anything other than public record.    

So if it is nothing except public record, why do you bother to protect your clients? It would be unethical and unprofessional to do otherwise but you want the county clerks to forget ethics and professionally for your convenience? Additionally your clients are under several laws restraining how they and you expose this information and to whom.

Charles, not everyones date of birth, social security number and other information you revealed and called the public record is in fact the public record. There are some 800 exemptions to the Public Records laws already concerning everything from your pets medical records to the indentity of minor children, to the identifiers of elected and appointed officials.

As for Al Qaeda and other terrorist and criminal organizations, you have to remember one thing.  In order to have a successful operation, you have to have personnel on the ground.  If they already have personnel on the ground here, what's to stop them from going to the county courthouses and looking up the information in person?

The completion of a successful mission begins with inteligence which no longer requires personell on the ground. We use sattelites and aircraft to gather much of the information we need. al Qada uses the internet in the same way. But we stupidly make it easy for them to gather 80% of all the information they need for a successful mission over the internet.

Identity thieves, stalkers and terrorist groups access the public records by the Internet for the sake of their own security and convenience. Identity thieves use it because it allows them to quickly steal thousands of identities while remaining totally anonymous. Stalker Liam Youens expressed suprise when he entered this on his website, "It's accually obsene what you can find out about a person on the internet." The information he had found cost Amy Boyer her life. Mortgage fraud scams are costing our clients millions and they are gathering the information they need with convenience of online access. 

Yes, all of these people could find this same information at the local courthouse, but they couldn't retrieve it in bulk digital form. They prefer internet access for the same reason you do Charles, convenience. The same reason your identity thief preffered to hack into the supposedly very secure database as opposed to finding it in the paper record at the courthouse. 

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Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
1/3/2005 10:23:22 AM (4458 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
1/4/2005 12:35:28 AM (4162 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
1/4/2005 9:25:02 AM (2747 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/30/2004 7:08:22 PM (2685 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 1:01:13 PM (2798 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 1:01:14 PM (2695 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Robert Franco/OH
12/30/2004 4:08:31 PM (2829 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 4:28:40 PM (2731 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/29/2004 7:15:27 PM (2729 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 10:18:32 PM (2698 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/30/2004 6:23:28 AM (2739 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/30/2004 6:23:30 AM (2725 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/31/2004 2:37:24 PM (2703 views)
Re: County purges Web site - John Redhead/NY
1/4/2005 10:55:11 AM (2657 views)

I was very excited to see... - Loretta Reed/MD
12/26/2004 10:50:19 AM (1751 views)


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