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ZENO DATA? - Rebecca Barney/FL
12/29/2004 3:51:01 PM (2340 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 4:17:50 PM (2794 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/29/2004 10:03:52 PM (2799 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/30/2004 4:56:37 PM (2868 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Robert Franco/OH
12/30/2004 5:13:51 PM (2760 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/30/2004 5:18:04 PM (2744 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - central search inc central search inc/WI
12/30/2004 3:26:30 PM (2812 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Rebecca Barney/FL
1/3/2005 9:38:49 AM (2918 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Rebecca Barney/FL
1/3/2005 9:41:01 AM (2754 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Kurt deVries/FL
1/3/2005 10:25:13 AM (2763 views)
Re: ZENO DATA? - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/3/2005 12:19:10 PM (2681 views)

Confusing Instructions from Client - Larry Crooks/OH
12/29/2004 8:11:41 AM (2107 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 10:53:04 AM (2761 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Larry Crooks/OH
12/29/2004 1:49:56 PM (2692 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 1:57:11 PM (2726 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Rebecca Barney/FL
12/29/2004 10:54:45 AM (2682 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 11:03:05 AM (2679 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 11:15:26 AM (2740 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 6:18:12 PM (2668 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 6:50:57 PM (2645 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/29/2004 10:55:56 PM (2622 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 12:38:52 PM (2701 views)
Re: Confusing Instructions from Client - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 12:38:55 PM (2696 views)

Ethics - Robert Breakell/CT
12/28/2004 6:55:44 PM (1606 views)

Follow-up on the E & O Article - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
12/27/2004 4:23:14 PM (1566 views)

Another Day Off - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/27/2004 12:16:13 AM (2144 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/27/2004 4:14:33 PM (2639 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/27/2004 5:14:23 PM (2643 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Robert Franco/OH
12/27/2004 5:22:04 PM (2624 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/27/2004 6:00:35 PM (2641 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/27/2004 11:29:18 PM (2591 views)


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County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/26/2004 8:58:32 PM (3022 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/28/2004 2:29:51 PM (4010 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/28/2004 7:29:53 PM (2514 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/29/2004 5:41:02 AM (2512 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 8:28:11 AM (2464 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/29/2004 12:37:55 PM (2492 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 1:50:27 PM (2534 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/29/2004 3:18:01 PM (2606 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/29/2004 3:23:36 PM (4097 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 6:45:11 PM (2447 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/30/2004 10:42:05 AM (2507 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 2:45:26 PM (2475 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/30/2004 3:51:37 PM (2438 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 5:53:44 PM (4052 views)

The fact that you could check the accuracy of the information that I provided means that the data has already made its way into hundreds, if not thousands, of databases nationally, if not worldwide. 
Makes my point exactly. The information would not be out there if it had never been released in digital form. In fact I was unable to verify all of your information precisely because it is held within the four walls of your county courthouse instead of being spewed all over the world.

By posting it, I have not acted particularly recklessly, nor have I endangered myself or anyone else further than they were already endangered by the free and public information available.
Is this what you tell your clients concerning their information that may or may not already be available to the internet?

As for my clients and my client's customers, they are handled in a secure method to prevent unauthorized reciept or access by unintended parties.  Even if they were not, nothing the search operations division of CMS handles is anything other than public record.    

So if it is nothing except public record, why do you bother to protect your clients? It would be unethical and unprofessional to do otherwise but you want the county clerks to forget ethics and professionally for your convenience? Additionally your clients are under several laws restraining how they and you expose this information and to whom.

Charles, not everyones date of birth, social security number and other information you revealed and called the public record is in fact the public record. There are some 800 exemptions to the Public Records laws already concerning everything from your pets medical records to the indentity of minor children, to the identifiers of elected and appointed officials.

As for Al Qaeda and other terrorist and criminal organizations, you have to remember one thing.  In order to have a successful operation, you have to have personnel on the ground.  If they already have personnel on the ground here, what's to stop them from going to the county courthouses and looking up the information in person?

The completion of a successful mission begins with inteligence which no longer requires personell on the ground. We use sattelites and aircraft to gather much of the information we need. al Qada uses the internet in the same way. But we stupidly make it easy for them to gather 80% of all the information they need for a successful mission over the internet.

Identity thieves, stalkers and terrorist groups access the public records by the Internet for the sake of their own security and convenience. Identity thieves use it because it allows them to quickly steal thousands of identities while remaining totally anonymous. Stalker Liam Youens expressed suprise when he entered this on his website, "It's accually obsene what you can find out about a person on the internet." The information he had found cost Amy Boyer her life. Mortgage fraud scams are costing our clients millions and they are gathering the information they need with convenience of online access. 

Yes, all of these people could find this same information at the local courthouse, but they couldn't retrieve it in bulk digital form. They prefer internet access for the same reason you do Charles, convenience. The same reason your identity thief preffered to hack into the supposedly very secure database as opposed to finding it in the paper record at the courthouse. 

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Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
1/3/2005 10:23:22 AM (4123 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
1/4/2005 12:35:28 AM (3809 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
1/4/2005 9:25:02 AM (2391 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/30/2004 7:08:22 PM (2350 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 1:01:13 PM (2443 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 1:01:14 PM (2395 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Robert Franco/OH
12/30/2004 4:08:31 PM (2481 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 4:28:40 PM (2380 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/29/2004 7:15:27 PM (2379 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 10:18:32 PM (2368 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/30/2004 6:23:28 AM (2348 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/30/2004 6:23:30 AM (2350 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/31/2004 2:37:24 PM (2352 views)
Re: County purges Web site - John Redhead/NY
1/4/2005 10:55:11 AM (2296 views)

I was very excited to see... - Loretta Reed/MD
12/26/2004 10:50:19 AM (1634 views)

CHRISTMAS - Michelle Bernard/LA
12/25/2004 5:57:57 PM (1515 views)

Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Jennifer Masters/MI
12/23/2004 2:04:47 AM (2087 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - kevin ahern/CT
12/23/2004 5:42:21 AM (2754 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Kim Cowles/WI
12/23/2004 9:23:16 AM (2619 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Robert Franco/OH
12/23/2004 10:41:17 AM (2629 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/23/2004 2:46:11 PM (2581 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Robert Breakell/CT
12/23/2004 8:49:24 PM (2528 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - kevin ahern/CT
12/24/2004 7:29:13 AM (2613 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Robert Franco/OH
12/24/2004 10:55:38 AM (2589 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - kevin ahern/CT
12/24/2004 1:42:28 PM (2527 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/27/2004 5:36:47 PM (2579 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Larry Crooks/OH
12/29/2004 8:34:20 AM (2451 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 10:51:37 AM (2453 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 1:33:07 PM (2529 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Jennifer Masters/MI
2/1/2005 10:56:16 PM (2511 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Jennifer Masters/MI
2/1/2005 10:49:41 PM (2528 views)

75 and counting!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
12/22/2004 2:00:50 PM (2529 views)

Merry Christmas and The Reason... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/22/2004 1:09:20 PM (2011 views)
Re: Merry Christmas and The Reason... - Robert Franco/OH
12/22/2004 2:52:49 PM (2435 views)
Re: Merry Christmas and The Reason... - Smitty Strickland/SC
12/24/2004 7:09:12 PM (2423 views)
Re: Merry Christmas and The Reason... - Kurt deVries/FL
12/29/2004 10:21:12 AM (2431 views)

General lack of title knowledge - Robert Franco/OH
12/20/2004 2:03:24 PM (2273 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - monica froese/ME
12/20/2004 9:17:09 PM (2670 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Ellen/MO
12/21/2004 2:32:28 PM (2583 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Ellen/MO
12/21/2004 2:36:34 PM (2633 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Jay Duncan
12/21/2004 2:44:32 PM (2671 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Jay Duncan
12/21/2004 2:45:37 PM (2656 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/21/2004 3:13:16 PM (2590 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Robert Franco/OH
12/21/2004 3:27:39 PM (2671 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/21/2004 6:16:44 PM (2621 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Scott Perry/PA
12/22/2004 10:32:03 PM (2549 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/22/2004 11:14:50 PM (2597 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/22/2004 11:21:24 PM (2536 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - kevin ahern/CT
12/23/2004 7:03:43 AM (2566 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Robert Franco/OH
12/23/2004 10:04:15 AM (2576 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/23/2004 2:42:40 PM (2590 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - kevin ahern/CT
12/24/2004 6:57:07 AM (2543 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/26/2004 6:09:00 PM (2579 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - kevin ahern/CT
12/27/2004 4:16:20 AM (2503 views)

Bonded? - Annette Dorty/PA
12/18/2004 7:19:53 PM (2004 views)
Re: Bonded? - central search inc central search inc/WI
12/20/2004 10:00:25 AM (2446 views)
Re: Bonded? - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/20/2004 6:17:37 PM (2465 views)
Re: Bonded? - Loretta Reed/MD
12/21/2004 9:00:00 AM (2420 views)
Re: Bonded? - Annette Dorty/PA
12/21/2004 4:10:11 PM (2377 views)
Re: Bonded? - Nancy Walker/AZ
12/21/2004 5:59:21 PM (2466 views)
Re: Bonded? - Nancy Walker/AZ
12/21/2004 6:01:56 PM (2482 views)

SOT Hospitality Suite - Robert Franco/OH
12/17/2004 1:44:57 PM (1674 views)

Wondering about food? - Jay Duncan/MO
12/17/2004 1:30:20 PM (2088 views)
Re: Wondering about food? - Robert Franco/OH
12/17/2004 1:41:15 PM (2553 views)


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