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Ethics - Robert Breakell/CT
12/28/2004 6:55:44 PM (1562 views)

Follow-up on the E & O Article - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
12/27/2004 4:23:14 PM (1532 views)

Another Day Off - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/27/2004 12:16:13 AM (2098 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/27/2004 4:14:33 PM (2517 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/27/2004 5:14:23 PM (2498 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Robert Franco/OH
12/27/2004 5:22:04 PM (2504 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/27/2004 6:00:35 PM (2515 views)
Re: Another Day Off - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/27/2004 11:29:18 PM (2457 views)

County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/26/2004 8:58:32 PM (2966 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/28/2004 2:29:51 PM (3864 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/28/2004 7:29:53 PM (2383 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/29/2004 5:41:02 AM (2379 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 8:28:11 AM (2333 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/29/2004 12:37:55 PM (2352 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 1:50:27 PM (2404 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/29/2004 3:18:01 PM (2461 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/29/2004 3:23:36 PM (3938 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 6:45:11 PM (2319 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/30/2004 10:42:05 AM (2373 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 2:45:26 PM (2346 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
12/30/2004 3:51:37 PM (2309 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 5:53:44 PM (3908 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
1/3/2005 10:23:22 AM (3980 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
1/4/2005 12:35:28 AM (3670 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Charles Skinner/NY
1/4/2005 9:25:02 AM (2264 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/30/2004 7:08:22 PM (2211 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 1:01:13 PM (2313 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 1:01:14 PM (2278 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Robert Franco/OH
12/30/2004 4:08:31 PM (2338 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/30/2004 4:28:40 PM (2264 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/29/2004 7:15:27 PM (2246 views)
Re: County purges Web site - David Bloys/TX
12/29/2004 10:18:32 PM (2241 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/30/2004 6:23:28 AM (2206 views)
Re: County purges Web site - kevin ahern/CT
12/30/2004 6:23:30 AM (2221 views)
Re: County purges Web site - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/31/2004 2:37:24 PM (2217 views)
Re: County purges Web site - John Redhead/NY
1/4/2005 10:55:11 AM (2160 views)

I was very excited to see... - Loretta Reed/MD
12/26/2004 10:50:19 AM (1601 views)




CHRISTMAS - Michelle Bernard/LA
12/25/2004 5:57:57 PM (1485 views)

Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Jennifer Masters/MI
12/23/2004 2:04:47 AM (2049 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - kevin ahern/CT
12/23/2004 5:42:21 AM (2608 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Kim Cowles/WI
12/23/2004 9:23:16 AM (2457 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Robert Franco/OH
12/23/2004 10:41:17 AM (2480 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/23/2004 2:46:11 PM (2430 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Robert Breakell/CT
12/23/2004 8:49:24 PM (2383 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - kevin ahern/CT
12/24/2004 7:29:13 AM (2473 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Robert Franco/OH
12/24/2004 10:55:38 AM (2441 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - kevin ahern/CT
12/24/2004 1:42:28 PM (2388 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/27/2004 5:36:47 PM (2436 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Larry Crooks/OH
12/29/2004 8:34:20 AM (2299 views)

My thoughts are this:

There is a distinct difference between abstractor error and public record error.  You cannot be held liable for a public record error if you can prove that it was not your error.  In some states, I think the public official can be held liable if his/her records are not accurate.  More and more today, agents and underwriters are turning claims in against searchers for abstractor error.  I believe this is one of the reasons that E&O rates have gone up so much in the past few years.  I believe there was a recent article on SOT about a case in NY where the searcher or search company was held liable in a lawsuit for a missed judgment or mortgage.  There are way too many abstractors that don't have E&O insurance, and many that have general professional liability insurance which they think is E&O insurance.  There is a great deal of mis-information and consumer ignorance in this area in the abstracting community.  What many abstractors don't realize is that their clients could come after their personal assets to collect on a claim that was a result of abstractor error, or presumed abstractor error in the case of lack of evidence to prove otherwise. 

It is somewhat interesting that we live in a county where you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.  In our business anyway, our clients usually assume that we made the mistake.  Since there is no track record of who edited the index in most counties, often times the error is blamed on the abstractor even though the evidence is circumstantial.  Errors are usually discovered years after a search is completed.  There is no way, in most systems to tell what the record was at a point in the past, only what it is today.  In "good old days" of thumb indexing and index books, corrections were obvious because often they were hand written in and the date of the correction was noted in the margin.

Abstractors don't collect any premium yet we seem to be held liable for a disproportionate amount of liability based upon our role (and fees) in the transaction.  I don't understand why a court of law that would place so much liability on an abstractor doesn't see the assumption of that liability as the unlicensed practice of insurance.  Today, it clearly benefits a title agency or company to oursourse their search work, as opposed to having staff searchers.  With staff searchers the liability is all theirs, with outsourcing to abstractors, it seems they've also outsourced the majority of the liability (at least with regard to the title side of the transaction).

Thoughts anyone?

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Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2004 10:51:37 AM (2302 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/31/2004 1:33:07 PM (2375 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Jennifer Masters/MI
2/1/2005 10:56:16 PM (2355 views)
Re: Carrying a Disclaimer for Services--Your Thoughts? - Jennifer Masters/MI
2/1/2005 10:49:41 PM (2379 views)

75 and counting!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
12/22/2004 2:00:50 PM (2483 views)

Merry Christmas and The Reason... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/22/2004 1:09:20 PM (1948 views)
Re: Merry Christmas and The Reason... - Robert Franco/OH
12/22/2004 2:52:49 PM (2306 views)
Re: Merry Christmas and The Reason... - Smitty Strickland/SC
12/24/2004 7:09:12 PM (2305 views)
Re: Merry Christmas and The Reason... - Kurt deVries/FL
12/29/2004 10:21:12 AM (2317 views)

General lack of title knowledge - Robert Franco/OH
12/20/2004 2:03:24 PM (2230 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - monica froese/ME
12/20/2004 9:17:09 PM (2544 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Ellen/MO
12/21/2004 2:32:28 PM (2454 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Ellen/MO
12/21/2004 2:36:34 PM (2511 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Jay Duncan
12/21/2004 2:44:32 PM (2535 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Jay Duncan
12/21/2004 2:45:37 PM (2527 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/21/2004 3:13:16 PM (2465 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Robert Franco/OH
12/21/2004 3:27:39 PM (2541 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/21/2004 6:16:44 PM (2497 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Scott Perry/PA
12/22/2004 10:32:03 PM (2432 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/22/2004 11:14:50 PM (2473 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/22/2004 11:21:24 PM (2411 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - kevin ahern/CT
12/23/2004 7:03:43 AM (2433 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Robert Franco/OH
12/23/2004 10:04:15 AM (2454 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Mark Russomanno/NJ
12/23/2004 2:42:40 PM (2465 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - kevin ahern/CT
12/24/2004 6:57:07 AM (2415 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/26/2004 6:09:00 PM (2438 views)
Re: General lack of title knowledge - kevin ahern/CT
12/27/2004 4:16:20 AM (2386 views)

Bonded? - Annette Dorty/PA
12/18/2004 7:19:53 PM (1941 views)
Re: Bonded? - central search inc central search inc/WI
12/20/2004 10:00:25 AM (2340 views)
Re: Bonded? - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/20/2004 6:17:37 PM (2352 views)
Re: Bonded? - Loretta Reed/MD
12/21/2004 9:00:00 AM (2309 views)
Re: Bonded? - Annette Dorty/PA
12/21/2004 4:10:11 PM (2277 views)
Re: Bonded? - Nancy Walker/AZ
12/21/2004 5:59:21 PM (2359 views)
Re: Bonded? - Nancy Walker/AZ
12/21/2004 6:01:56 PM (2369 views)

SOT Hospitality Suite - Robert Franco/OH
12/17/2004 1:44:57 PM (1636 views)

Wondering about food? - Jay Duncan/MO
12/17/2004 1:30:20 PM (2040 views)
Re: Wondering about food? - Robert Franco/OH
12/17/2004 1:41:15 PM (2420 views)

Past Posting - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/17/2004 7:35:21 AM (2058 views)
Re: Past Posting - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/17/2004 9:43:55 AM (2464 views)
Re: Past Posting - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/17/2004 11:07:57 AM (2436 views)
Re: Past Posting - Jennifer Masters/MI
12/23/2004 2:12:29 AM (2416 views)

Monica in Maine - Judy Nisonger/CA
12/17/2004 6:46:33 AM (1707 views)


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