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E & O questions - Donna Grady/NC
1/20/2005 11:50:40 PM (2199 views)
Re: E & O questions - Robert Franco/OH
1/21/2005 12:21:33 AM (3341 views)
Re: E & O questions - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/21/2005 9:26:34 AM (3354 views)
Re: E & O questions - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 11:41:53 AM (3292 views)
Re: E & O questions - kevin ahern/CT
1/21/2005 5:29:04 AM (3330 views)
Re: E & O questions - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/21/2005 9:50:05 AM (3383 views)
Re: E & O questions - Robert Franco/OH
1/21/2005 11:28:14 AM (3445 views)
Re: E & O questions - Donna Grady/NC
1/21/2005 11:51:22 AM (3367 views)
Re: E & O questions - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 11:59:46 AM (3434 views)
Re: E & O questions - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/23/2005 1:29:33 AM (3295 views)
Re: E & O questions - Spencer Kinsey/AR
1/22/2005 7:54:15 PM (3205 views)
Re: E & O questions - Donna Grady/NC
1/22/2005 10:03:11 PM (3198 views)
Re: E & O questions - Spencer Kinsey/AR
1/22/2005 10:52:37 PM (3235 views)
Re: E & O questions - kevin ahern/CT
1/23/2005 4:39:21 AM (3197 views)
Re: E & O questions - Spencer Kinsey/AR
1/23/2005 2:03:04 PM (3215 views)
Re: E & O questions - kevin ahern/CT
1/23/2005 5:41:59 PM (3085 views)

Nationwide Title Clearing - Joe Kalmon
1/20/2005 10:43:45 PM (2315 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/20/2005 11:54:16 PM (3550 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - David Bloys/TX
1/21/2005 8:20:52 AM (3715 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Suzanne Verbrugghe/MI
1/21/2005 9:10:25 PM (3423 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Robert Breakell/CT
1/21/2005 8:50:51 AM (3230 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Jay Duncan
1/21/2005 9:08:55 AM (3593 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Brandon Holman/IN
1/21/2005 9:21:44 AM (3470 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Tim Collins/OH
1/27/2005 2:21:22 PM (3270 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Brandon Holman/IN
1/21/2005 9:25:46 AM (3389 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 1:58:53 PM (3446 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - terry sutton/CT
1/23/2005 8:27:14 PM (3221 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/24/2005 11:19:28 AM (3338 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - David Bloys/TX
1/24/2005 4:51:59 PM (3292 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Robert Breakell/CT
1/24/2005 6:52:29 PM (3116 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/24/2005 7:37:12 PM (3343 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - kevin ahern/CT
1/26/2005 6:12:31 AM (3223 views)

Ethical practice as an abstractor - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
1/20/2005 2:45:56 PM (1755 views)

What Our Clients Want - David Bloys/TX
1/20/2005 9:13:11 AM (2485 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Smitty Strickland/SC
1/20/2005 5:40:34 PM (3177 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/20/2005 6:26:44 PM (3377 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - David Bloys/TX
1/21/2005 8:11:46 AM (3223 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Kurt deVries/FL
1/21/2005 9:57:35 AM (3317 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Ellen Malloy/MO
1/21/2005 10:43:11 AM (3205 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Kurt deVries/FL
1/21/2005 11:59:48 AM (3499 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - David Bloys/TX
1/21/2005 1:03:18 PM (3218 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 12:10:21 PM (3489 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Kurt deVries/FL
1/21/2005 12:16:38 PM (3295 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/21/2005 4:47:59 PM (3256 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - David Bloys/TX
1/22/2005 10:05:55 AM (3262 views)

Curt,

You are correct. The courthouse records are not always correct, so how can any clone of the courthouse records be correct? When we find errors in the courthouse records the clerks correct them, but there is no subsequent correction to the clones that have been bought in bulk from the county. Even a judges order to seal a record has no affect on anything except the official public record. Your own state of Florida attempted to protect it's citizens by allowing you to request your social security number be redacted from a document if it was found online. Your governer found his online and promptly asked for a received a redaction. But it did not affect the cloned records or any clones of the clones that have already been sold.

This example relates to an error made by your governor when he included a social security number on a document that he had reason to believe would never be packaged and exported all over the world wide web. But it is just as valid when applied to a clerical error that is subsequently corrected. In either case, the error is only corrected in the official public records. This is probably why every site offering public records online that I have visited has a disclaimer that the information provided is not "the official public record".

I have no problem with your purchasing the records in bulk from courthouse for inhouse use provided it is limited to inhouse. But anyone can do the same thing that you did and this is a problem. I noticed recently when one company purchased the records just as you have and then claimed their software could provide an online do it yourself title search that you also had a problem. The foreign outsource companies, agragators, marketing companies, or anyone else can purchase the county records in bulk at a fraction of the cost and use it for whatever purpose profits them.

Legislators and courts all over the country are beginning to recognize the folly of the laws that treat the entire public record the same as one public record. Not too long ago a one court stated, the "whole" of the records deserves greater protection than any single record. The Supreme Court have consistantly stated the same thing in that the right to privacy outweighs any right of the public access.

Their is no doubt there are errors in the public record and in the laws that govern access. Both the laws and the records are being corrected at the source but have no affect on the records already released in error.

Thank you for your kind words regarding my mini-bio. I wish I had met you at the conference. We could have spent some time swapping stories. I think I would have liked that.

Regarding the exchanges with Bill. I really felt a little sorry for him. I think he is probably a very good man but he seemed to have little knowledge of the damage his product is causing to the industry or the people we serve. I don't really believe his statement that he felt no ethical obligation to the people he is hurting. I just don't think he can do anything about it without damaging his companies bottom line.

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Re: What Our Clients Want - Michelle Bernard/LA
1/21/2005 7:50:24 PM (3345 views)

NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/19/2005 11:21:12 PM (2258 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Jay Duncan/MO
1/20/2005 8:08:04 AM (3346 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Smitty Strickland/SC
1/20/2005 5:36:49 PM (3281 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/20/2005 6:53:29 PM (3465 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Breakell/CT
1/20/2005 7:25:02 PM (3199 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Breakell/CT
1/20/2005 7:25:47 PM (3314 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/20/2005 9:28:13 PM (3202 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/20/2005 9:38:45 PM (3255 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 11:58:17 AM (3265 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Franco/OH
1/21/2005 1:14:13 PM (3279 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 1:50:10 PM (3268 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Franco/OH
1/21/2005 2:31:44 PM (3217 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/21/2005 6:15:24 PM (3300 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 7:35:29 PM (3244 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Franco/OH
1/21/2005 7:42:15 PM (3352 views)




Alta dues - Helene/GA
1/19/2005 9:21:42 PM (2371 views)
Re: Alta dues - Jay Duncan
1/19/2005 11:07:42 PM (3330 views)
Re: Alta dues - Jamie Shoemaker/NY
1/19/2005 11:59:49 PM (3389 views)
Re: Alta dues - Jay Duncan
1/20/2005 8:06:18 AM (3514 views)
Re: Alta dues - Glenda Hodge/TN
1/20/2005 1:41:26 AM (3271 views)
Re: Alta dues - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/20/2005 6:29:28 PM (3515 views)
Re: Alta dues - Helene/GA
1/20/2005 11:39:33 PM (3340 views)
Re: Alta dues - Donna Grady/NC
1/20/2005 11:53:45 PM (3352 views)
Re: Alta dues - Donna Grady/NC
1/20/2005 11:54:20 PM (3289 views)
Re: Alta dues - Glenda Hodge/TN
1/25/2005 10:47:20 PM (3319 views)
Re: Alta dues - Robert Breakell/CT
1/20/2005 7:36:54 PM (3374 views)

The Rabbit - Jay Duncan/MO
1/19/2005 7:02:26 PM (2140 views)
Re: The Rabbit - Jamie Shoemaker/NY
1/19/2005 7:29:50 PM (3192 views)
Re: The Rabbit - Kurt deVries/FL
1/20/2005 10:32:47 AM (3167 views)

David Bloys I am soooo sorry! - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/19/2005 3:24:47 PM (1901 views)

Impressed - Robert Breakell/CT
1/18/2005 7:26:49 PM (2570 views)
Re: Impressed - Ellen/MO
1/19/2005 2:35:35 PM (3408 views)
Re: Impressed - Robert Franco/OH
1/19/2005 3:04:48 PM (3419 views)
Re: Impressed - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/19/2005 3:33:04 PM (3277 views)
Re: Impressed - Jay Duncan/MO
1/19/2005 8:32:56 PM (4419 views)
Re: Impressed - Donna Grady/NC
1/19/2005 9:15:25 PM (3322 views)

Mary's Mom - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2005 2:13:45 PM (2300 views)
Re: Mary's Mom - Jamie Shoemaker/NY
1/19/2005 9:53:57 AM (3141 views)
Re: Mary's Mom - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/21/2005 9:13:43 AM (3433 views)
Re: Mary's Mom - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/21/2005 9:13:44 AM (3187 views)

NALTEA 2005 Winter Conference - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
1/18/2005 11:26:18 AM (2320 views)
Re: NALTEA 2005 Winter Conference - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2005 1:52:47 PM (3453 views)

A good story revisited - Jay Duncan/MO
1/17/2005 11:13:00 PM (2267 views)
Re: A good story revisited - Michelle Bernard/LA
1/18/2005 1:33:29 AM (3399 views)
Re: A good story revisited - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/18/2005 11:28:33 PM (3387 views)

What a weekend! - Robert Franco/OH
1/17/2005 4:47:17 PM (2354 views)
Re: What a weekend! - Smitty Strickland/SC
1/17/2005 5:52:00 PM (3494 views)
Re: What a weekend! - Robert Franco/OH
1/17/2005 6:08:10 PM (3291 views)
Re: What a weekend! - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
1/18/2005 10:14:14 AM (3275 views)
Re: What a weekend! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
1/18/2005 11:47:02 AM (3255 views)
Re: What a weekend! - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/MO
1/18/2005 6:52:07 PM (3254 views)
Re: What a weekend! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
1/19/2005 3:03:36 PM (3240 views)
Re: What a weekend! - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2005 2:05:15 PM (3190 views)

ALL AMERICAN DOCUMENTS SERVICES - Rebecca Barney/FL
1/17/2005 10:51:58 AM (2571 views)
Re: ALL AMERICAN DOCUMENTS SERVICES - Jay Young/NE
1/18/2005 11:38:25 AM (3299 views)

Taking a stand - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/17/2005 1:46:48 AM (2303 views)
Re: Taking a stand - Jay Duncan/MO
1/17/2005 6:13:44 PM (4491 views)


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