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What Our Clients Want - David Bloys/TX
1/20/2005 9:13:11 AM (2361 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Smitty Strickland/SC
1/20/2005 5:40:34 PM (2799 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/20/2005 6:26:44 PM (2968 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - David Bloys/TX
1/21/2005 8:11:46 AM (2803 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Kurt deVries/FL
1/21/2005 9:57:35 AM (2845 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Ellen Malloy/MO
1/21/2005 10:43:11 AM (2854 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Kurt deVries/FL
1/21/2005 11:59:48 AM (3013 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - David Bloys/TX
1/21/2005 1:03:18 PM (2745 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 12:10:21 PM (3016 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Kurt deVries/FL
1/21/2005 12:16:38 PM (2840 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/21/2005 4:47:59 PM (2866 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - David Bloys/TX
1/22/2005 10:05:55 AM (2882 views)

Curt,

You are correct. The courthouse records are not always correct, so how can any clone of the courthouse records be correct? When we find errors in the courthouse records the clerks correct them, but there is no subsequent correction to the clones that have been bought in bulk from the county. Even a judges order to seal a record has no affect on anything except the official public record. Your own state of Florida attempted to protect it's citizens by allowing you to request your social security number be redacted from a document if it was found online. Your governer found his online and promptly asked for a received a redaction. But it did not affect the cloned records or any clones of the clones that have already been sold.

This example relates to an error made by your governor when he included a social security number on a document that he had reason to believe would never be packaged and exported all over the world wide web. But it is just as valid when applied to a clerical error that is subsequently corrected. In either case, the error is only corrected in the official public records. This is probably why every site offering public records online that I have visited has a disclaimer that the information provided is not "the official public record".

I have no problem with your purchasing the records in bulk from courthouse for inhouse use provided it is limited to inhouse. But anyone can do the same thing that you did and this is a problem. I noticed recently when one company purchased the records just as you have and then claimed their software could provide an online do it yourself title search that you also had a problem. The foreign outsource companies, agragators, marketing companies, or anyone else can purchase the county records in bulk at a fraction of the cost and use it for whatever purpose profits them.

Legislators and courts all over the country are beginning to recognize the folly of the laws that treat the entire public record the same as one public record. Not too long ago a one court stated, the "whole" of the records deserves greater protection than any single record. The Supreme Court have consistantly stated the same thing in that the right to privacy outweighs any right of the public access.

Their is no doubt there are errors in the public record and in the laws that govern access. Both the laws and the records are being corrected at the source but have no affect on the records already released in error.

Thank you for your kind words regarding my mini-bio. I wish I had met you at the conference. We could have spent some time swapping stories. I think I would have liked that.

Regarding the exchanges with Bill. I really felt a little sorry for him. I think he is probably a very good man but he seemed to have little knowledge of the damage his product is causing to the industry or the people we serve. I don't really believe his statement that he felt no ethical obligation to the people he is hurting. I just don't think he can do anything about it without damaging his companies bottom line.

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Re: What Our Clients Want - Michelle Bernard/LA
1/21/2005 7:50:24 PM (2911 views)

NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/19/2005 11:21:12 PM (2128 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Jay Duncan/MO
1/20/2005 8:08:04 AM (2907 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Smitty Strickland/SC
1/20/2005 5:36:49 PM (2887 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/20/2005 6:53:29 PM (2952 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Breakell/CT
1/20/2005 7:25:02 PM (2825 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Breakell/CT
1/20/2005 7:25:47 PM (2881 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/20/2005 9:28:13 PM (2824 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/20/2005 9:38:45 PM (2872 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 11:58:17 AM (2860 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Franco/OH
1/21/2005 1:14:13 PM (2884 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 1:50:10 PM (2841 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Franco/OH
1/21/2005 2:31:44 PM (2849 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/21/2005 6:15:24 PM (2830 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 7:35:29 PM (2846 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Franco/OH
1/21/2005 7:42:15 PM (2896 views)

Alta dues - Helene/GA
1/19/2005 9:21:42 PM (2247 views)
Re: Alta dues - Jay Duncan
1/19/2005 11:07:42 PM (2944 views)
Re: Alta dues - Jamie Shoemaker/NY
1/19/2005 11:59:49 PM (2927 views)
Re: Alta dues - Jay Duncan
1/20/2005 8:06:18 AM (3064 views)
Re: Alta dues - Glenda Hodge/TN
1/20/2005 1:41:26 AM (2884 views)
Re: Alta dues - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/20/2005 6:29:28 PM (3038 views)
Re: Alta dues - Helene/GA
1/20/2005 11:39:33 PM (2905 views)
Re: Alta dues - Donna Grady/NC
1/20/2005 11:53:45 PM (2979 views)
Re: Alta dues - Donna Grady/NC
1/20/2005 11:54:20 PM (2918 views)
Re: Alta dues - Glenda Hodge/TN
1/25/2005 10:47:20 PM (2927 views)
Re: Alta dues - Robert Breakell/CT
1/20/2005 7:36:54 PM (2953 views)

The Rabbit - Jay Duncan/MO
1/19/2005 7:02:26 PM (2035 views)
Re: The Rabbit - Jamie Shoemaker/NY
1/19/2005 7:29:50 PM (2821 views)
Re: The Rabbit - Kurt deVries/FL
1/20/2005 10:32:47 AM (2758 views)

David Bloys I am soooo sorry! - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/19/2005 3:24:47 PM (1812 views)


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Impressed - Robert Breakell/CT
1/18/2005 7:26:49 PM (2462 views)
Re: Impressed - Ellen/MO
1/19/2005 2:35:35 PM (2996 views)
Re: Impressed - Robert Franco/OH
1/19/2005 3:04:48 PM (3008 views)
Re: Impressed - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/19/2005 3:33:04 PM (2878 views)
Re: Impressed - Jay Duncan/MO
1/19/2005 8:32:56 PM (3982 views)
Re: Impressed - Donna Grady/NC
1/19/2005 9:15:25 PM (2897 views)

Mary's Mom - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2005 2:13:45 PM (2172 views)
Re: Mary's Mom - Jamie Shoemaker/NY
1/19/2005 9:53:57 AM (2772 views)
Re: Mary's Mom - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/21/2005 9:13:43 AM (2958 views)
Re: Mary's Mom - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/21/2005 9:13:44 AM (2766 views)

NALTEA 2005 Winter Conference - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
1/18/2005 11:26:18 AM (2188 views)
Re: NALTEA 2005 Winter Conference - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2005 1:52:47 PM (2934 views)

A good story revisited - Jay Duncan/MO
1/17/2005 11:13:00 PM (2153 views)
Re: A good story revisited - Michelle Bernard/LA
1/18/2005 1:33:29 AM (2941 views)
Re: A good story revisited - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/18/2005 11:28:33 PM (2890 views)

What a weekend! - Robert Franco/OH
1/17/2005 4:47:17 PM (2238 views)
Re: What a weekend! - Smitty Strickland/SC
1/17/2005 5:52:00 PM (3049 views)
Re: What a weekend! - Robert Franco/OH
1/17/2005 6:08:10 PM (2903 views)
Re: What a weekend! - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
1/18/2005 10:14:14 AM (2840 views)
Re: What a weekend! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
1/18/2005 11:47:02 AM (2825 views)
Re: What a weekend! - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/MO
1/18/2005 6:52:07 PM (2850 views)
Re: What a weekend! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
1/19/2005 3:03:36 PM (2863 views)
Re: What a weekend! - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2005 2:05:15 PM (2756 views)

ALL AMERICAN DOCUMENTS SERVICES - Rebecca Barney/FL
1/17/2005 10:51:58 AM (2471 views)
Re: ALL AMERICAN DOCUMENTS SERVICES - Jay Young/NE
1/18/2005 11:38:25 AM (2887 views)

Taking a stand - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/17/2005 1:46:48 AM (2207 views)
Re: Taking a stand - Jay Duncan/MO
1/17/2005 6:13:44 PM (4013 views)

Winter Conference - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/16/2005 11:55:30 PM (2011 views)
Re: Winter Conference - Smitty Strickland/SC
1/17/2005 5:54:12 PM (2896 views)
Re: Winter Conference - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/17/2005 7:29:10 PM (2955 views)

Just my thoughts... - Donna Grady/NC
1/16/2005 2:22:33 PM (2306 views)
Re: Just my thoughts... - Michelle Bernard/LA
1/16/2005 6:57:41 PM (2977 views)
Re: Just my thoughts... - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/16/2005 11:11:03 PM (2862 views)
Re: Just my thoughts... - Kurt deVries/FL
1/17/2005 11:58:21 AM (2923 views)
Re: Just my thoughts... - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/17/2005 4:27:39 PM (2855 views)
Re: Just my thoughts... - Robert Breakell/CT
1/18/2005 7:48:49 PM (3020 views)
Re: Just my thoughts... - Kurt deVries/FL
1/19/2005 4:25:29 PM (2827 views)

What time is the Meeting with Abstractors Tonite - Hospitality Suite # - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/16/2005 1:16:27 PM (2143 views)
Re: What time is the Meeting with Abstractors Tonite - Hospitality Suite # - Jay Duncan
1/16/2005 7:49:06 PM (3175 views)


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