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CLIENT OF THE MONTH - Rebecca Barney/FL
1/21/2005 12:02:25 PM (1585 views)

ValuNet-ValueAmerica - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/21/2005 9:37:17 AM (2161 views)
Re: ValuNet-ValueAmerica - Kurt deVries/FL
1/21/2005 9:41:35 AM (2847 views)
Re: ValuNet-ValueAmerica - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 12:01:48 PM (2673 views)

NALTEA Conference - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/21/2005 9:33:36 AM (1979 views)
Re: NALTEA Conference - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/21/2005 6:24:17 PM (2772 views)

E & O questions - Donna Grady/NC
1/20/2005 11:50:40 PM (2005 views)
Re: E & O questions - Robert Franco/OH
1/21/2005 12:21:33 AM (2707 views)
Re: E & O questions - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/21/2005 9:26:34 AM (2668 views)
Re: E & O questions - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 11:41:53 AM (2678 views)
Re: E & O questions - kevin ahern/CT
1/21/2005 5:29:04 AM (2682 views)
Re: E & O questions - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/21/2005 9:50:05 AM (2728 views)
Re: E & O questions - Robert Franco/OH
1/21/2005 11:28:14 AM (2771 views)
Re: E & O questions - Donna Grady/NC
1/21/2005 11:51:22 AM (2736 views)
Re: E & O questions - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 11:59:46 AM (2743 views)
Re: E & O questions - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/23/2005 1:29:33 AM (2659 views)
Re: E & O questions - Spencer Kinsey/AR
1/22/2005 7:54:15 PM (2598 views)
Re: E & O questions - Donna Grady/NC
1/22/2005 10:03:11 PM (2622 views)
Re: E & O questions - Spencer Kinsey/AR
1/22/2005 10:52:37 PM (2600 views)
Re: E & O questions - kevin ahern/CT
1/23/2005 4:39:21 AM (2586 views)
Re: E & O questions - Spencer Kinsey/AR
1/23/2005 2:03:04 PM (2580 views)
Re: E & O questions - kevin ahern/CT
1/23/2005 5:41:59 PM (2574 views)

Nationwide Title Clearing - Joe Kalmon
1/20/2005 10:43:45 PM (2142 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/20/2005 11:54:16 PM (2901 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - David Bloys/TX
1/21/2005 8:20:52 AM (3026 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Suzanne Verbrugghe/MI
1/21/2005 9:10:25 PM (2778 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Robert Breakell/CT
1/21/2005 8:50:51 AM (2705 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Jay Duncan
1/21/2005 9:08:55 AM (2901 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Brandon Holman/IN
1/21/2005 9:21:44 AM (2827 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Tim Collins/OH
1/27/2005 2:21:22 PM (2639 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Brandon Holman/IN
1/21/2005 9:25:46 AM (2740 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 1:58:53 PM (2803 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - terry sutton/CT
1/23/2005 8:27:14 PM (2646 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/24/2005 11:19:28 AM (2677 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - David Bloys/TX
1/24/2005 4:51:59 PM (2668 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Robert Breakell/CT
1/24/2005 6:52:29 PM (2579 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/24/2005 7:37:12 PM (2679 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - kevin ahern/CT
1/26/2005 6:12:31 AM (2623 views)


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Ethical practice as an abstractor - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
1/20/2005 2:45:56 PM (1626 views)

What Our Clients Want - David Bloys/TX
1/20/2005 9:13:11 AM (2292 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Smitty Strickland/SC
1/20/2005 5:40:34 PM (2628 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/20/2005 6:26:44 PM (2687 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - David Bloys/TX
1/21/2005 8:11:46 AM (2599 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Kurt deVries/FL
1/21/2005 9:57:35 AM (2670 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Ellen Malloy/MO
1/21/2005 10:43:11 AM (2643 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Kurt deVries/FL
1/21/2005 11:59:48 AM (2762 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - David Bloys/TX
1/21/2005 1:03:18 PM (2556 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 12:10:21 PM (2748 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Kurt deVries/FL
1/21/2005 12:16:38 PM (2600 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/21/2005 4:47:59 PM (2626 views)
Re: What Our Clients Want - David Bloys/TX
1/22/2005 10:05:55 AM (2637 views)

Curt,

You are correct. The courthouse records are not always correct, so how can any clone of the courthouse records be correct? When we find errors in the courthouse records the clerks correct them, but there is no subsequent correction to the clones that have been bought in bulk from the county. Even a judges order to seal a record has no affect on anything except the official public record. Your own state of Florida attempted to protect it's citizens by allowing you to request your social security number be redacted from a document if it was found online. Your governer found his online and promptly asked for a received a redaction. But it did not affect the cloned records or any clones of the clones that have already been sold.

This example relates to an error made by your governor when he included a social security number on a document that he had reason to believe would never be packaged and exported all over the world wide web. But it is just as valid when applied to a clerical error that is subsequently corrected. In either case, the error is only corrected in the official public records. This is probably why every site offering public records online that I have visited has a disclaimer that the information provided is not "the official public record".

I have no problem with your purchasing the records in bulk from courthouse for inhouse use provided it is limited to inhouse. But anyone can do the same thing that you did and this is a problem. I noticed recently when one company purchased the records just as you have and then claimed their software could provide an online do it yourself title search that you also had a problem. The foreign outsource companies, agragators, marketing companies, or anyone else can purchase the county records in bulk at a fraction of the cost and use it for whatever purpose profits them.

Legislators and courts all over the country are beginning to recognize the folly of the laws that treat the entire public record the same as one public record. Not too long ago a one court stated, the "whole" of the records deserves greater protection than any single record. The Supreme Court have consistantly stated the same thing in that the right to privacy outweighs any right of the public access.

Their is no doubt there are errors in the public record and in the laws that govern access. Both the laws and the records are being corrected at the source but have no affect on the records already released in error.

Thank you for your kind words regarding my mini-bio. I wish I had met you at the conference. We could have spent some time swapping stories. I think I would have liked that.

Regarding the exchanges with Bill. I really felt a little sorry for him. I think he is probably a very good man but he seemed to have little knowledge of the damage his product is causing to the industry or the people we serve. I don't really believe his statement that he felt no ethical obligation to the people he is hurting. I just don't think he can do anything about it without damaging his companies bottom line.

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Re: What Our Clients Want - Michelle Bernard/LA
1/21/2005 7:50:24 PM (2656 views)

NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/19/2005 11:21:12 PM (2045 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Jay Duncan/MO
1/20/2005 8:08:04 AM (2672 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Smitty Strickland/SC
1/20/2005 5:36:49 PM (2630 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/20/2005 6:53:29 PM (2715 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Breakell/CT
1/20/2005 7:25:02 PM (2566 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Breakell/CT
1/20/2005 7:25:47 PM (2645 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/20/2005 9:28:13 PM (2612 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/20/2005 9:38:45 PM (2624 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 11:58:17 AM (2617 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Franco/OH
1/21/2005 1:14:13 PM (2684 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 1:50:10 PM (2583 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Franco/OH
1/21/2005 2:31:44 PM (2628 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
1/21/2005 6:15:24 PM (2626 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/21/2005 7:35:29 PM (2620 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Franco/OH
1/21/2005 7:42:15 PM (2654 views)

Alta dues - Helene/GA
1/19/2005 9:21:42 PM (2152 views)
Re: Alta dues - Jay Duncan
1/19/2005 11:07:42 PM (2715 views)
Re: Alta dues - Jamie Shoemaker/NY
1/19/2005 11:59:49 PM (2692 views)
Re: Alta dues - Jay Duncan
1/20/2005 8:06:18 AM (2818 views)
Re: Alta dues - Glenda Hodge/TN
1/20/2005 1:41:26 AM (2663 views)
Re: Alta dues - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/20/2005 6:29:28 PM (2793 views)
Re: Alta dues - Helene/GA
1/20/2005 11:39:33 PM (2630 views)
Re: Alta dues - Donna Grady/NC
1/20/2005 11:53:45 PM (2756 views)
Re: Alta dues - Donna Grady/NC
1/20/2005 11:54:20 PM (2733 views)
Re: Alta dues - Glenda Hodge/TN
1/25/2005 10:47:20 PM (2690 views)
Re: Alta dues - Robert Breakell/CT
1/20/2005 7:36:54 PM (2708 views)

The Rabbit - Jay Duncan/MO
1/19/2005 7:02:26 PM (1973 views)
Re: The Rabbit - Jamie Shoemaker/NY
1/19/2005 7:29:50 PM (2585 views)
Re: The Rabbit - Kurt deVries/FL
1/20/2005 10:32:47 AM (2523 views)

David Bloys I am soooo sorry! - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/19/2005 3:24:47 PM (1750 views)

Impressed - Robert Breakell/CT
1/18/2005 7:26:49 PM (2403 views)
Re: Impressed - Ellen/MO
1/19/2005 2:35:35 PM (2745 views)
Re: Impressed - Robert Franco/OH
1/19/2005 3:04:48 PM (2793 views)
Re: Impressed - Judy Nisonger/CA
1/19/2005 3:33:04 PM (2608 views)
Re: Impressed - Jay Duncan/MO
1/19/2005 8:32:56 PM (3725 views)
Re: Impressed - Donna Grady/NC
1/19/2005 9:15:25 PM (2648 views)

Mary's Mom - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2005 2:13:45 PM (2072 views)
Re: Mary's Mom - Jamie Shoemaker/NY
1/19/2005 9:53:57 AM (2565 views)
Re: Mary's Mom - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/21/2005 9:13:43 AM (2727 views)
Re: Mary's Mom - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/21/2005 9:13:44 AM (2511 views)

NALTEA 2005 Winter Conference - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
1/18/2005 11:26:18 AM (2132 views)
Re: NALTEA 2005 Winter Conference - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2005 1:52:47 PM (2701 views)

A good story revisited - Jay Duncan/MO
1/17/2005 11:13:00 PM (2065 views)
Re: A good story revisited - Michelle Bernard/LA
1/18/2005 1:33:29 AM (2648 views)
Re: A good story revisited - Lisa Ramsey/TX
1/18/2005 11:28:33 PM (2617 views)


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