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I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:26:53 AM (2387 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 8:33:25 PM (3291 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 10:30:50 PM (3249 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:53:23 PM (3115 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/25/2005 12:19:59 AM (3166 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 6:12:14 AM (3146 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 7:55:35 AM (3213 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 8:03:23 AM (3048 views)

My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/23/2005 10:40:59 PM (2498 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/23/2005 11:24:37 PM (3219 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/24/2005 12:12:22 AM (3263 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/24/2005 7:51:43 AM (3416 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 9:46:59 AM (3317 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/24/2005 9:56:34 AM (3295 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 1:20:14 PM (3209 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jay Duncan
2/25/2005 1:23:59 PM (3309 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 4:01:55 PM (3332 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:15:07 PM (3306 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:24:49 PM (3148 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/25/2005 6:02:40 PM (3347 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Helene/GA
2/26/2005 12:10:59 AM (3326 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/25/2005 6:20:41 PM (3263 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/25/2005 6:52:40 PM (3192 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 9:44:56 PM (3274 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/26/2005 8:57:45 AM (3511 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 10:21:54 AM (3284 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 11:59:39 AM (3432 views)


"Unlike other states, time is a marketable commodity in Connecticut because we have no unified county seats in which to search titles. we lose a lot of time on the road traveling between town halls. If the client is going to require additional and unnecessary work, they should be prepared to pay for it. I don't think that is a concept that is too difficult to understand."

This was the point that I was grasping at, not the idea that this is a job that can be done from home or anything else that would marginalize this job/profession.

The point that I am making is that whether you are self-employed, or you are running an abstracting service, there are costs that you incur no matter what - these are the costs that exist simply to do your job. You write these costs off at the end of the year (an if you aren't get a new accountant). While it is money that you had to spend, at the least it is not taxed, and it is money spent in order to make considerably more money.

The REAL commodity is in fact time when it comes to abstracts.

It takes time to learn your job, and gain a level of expertise.

It takes time to travel to various counties (which by the way, the idea that there is not a central place to get information in Ct. counties totally stinks, and justifies the additional cost even moreso when you have to research something you did right the first time - hats off to that business approach).

It takes time to prepare the abstract.

Depending on how you send the information back to an agency, it may take even more time to scan the information over to the client.

Again, I have been on BOTH sides of the fence, so I am not trying to be callous in any way. When you remove the cost of the preparation of the abstract (supplies and travel) the actual cost of the document is $10-$15. The remainder of the money made on that search is paid for YOUR TIME and the knowledge you built over TIME.

Now, I have no idea what the pay structure is in other states, or even outside of Southern NY. From what I have seen though, the people in the business are doing well for themselves. My frame of reference is this, so I apologize if what I have said comes off as rude. I just think that if this is a stie for abstractors and professionals in the title industry, it is worthwhile to be honest and on the same page with one another. When I see guys in their mid- to late-twenties driving around in BMWs and Lexus vehicles, I find it hard to talk about profit margins in a negative sense. And again, this may be wholly different elsewhere, but I can't imagine it being that different.

And considering the health - financially - of these abstractors, it is why I maintain that abstractors have to be more agreeable on the phone when dealing with their clients. I think charging for reexamination of something that has been already provided is the perfect response to be sure that the client is not going to call for mundane issues.

But, I am sure there are those that will disagree, and thankfully this is America so we can continue to discuss things that we don't see eye to eye on...

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Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:10:31 PM (3236 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:19:42 PM (3157 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 5:58:14 PM (3126 views)

Arkansas Abstractors - Marty Munson/MI
2/23/2005 9:59:55 PM (2419 views)
Re: Arkansas Abstractors - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/24/2005 8:59:28 PM (3038 views)

Out of pocket and need some help... - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/23/2005 11:52:06 AM (2282 views)
Nevermind!! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/23/2005 12:05:00 PM (3124 views)

Ohio County Addresses Bulk Release of Public Records - Robert Franco/OH
2/23/2005 10:42:08 AM (2403 views)
Re: Ohio County Addresses Bulk Release of Public Records - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/23/2005 7:07:26 PM (3246 views)




Radio Coverage of online "public" records - David Bloys/TX
2/22/2005 7:42:24 PM (3039 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/22/2005 9:39:56 PM (3475 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - David Bloys/TX
2/23/2005 12:12:46 AM (3452 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 5:57:07 AM (3253 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 6:04:30 AM (3286 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 6:11:17 AM (3256 views)

SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - ROY PISTEY/PA
2/22/2005 4:14:19 PM (2320 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 4:24:52 PM (3227 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/22/2005 6:19:50 PM (3409 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/22/2005 6:56:34 PM (3354 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 7:03:49 PM (3362 views)

Subscriptions... - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2005 4:56:19 PM (2273 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 5:18:44 PM (3316 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 11:55:17 AM (3260 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/22/2005 1:48:50 PM (3259 views)
PS - I Just Checked Something - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/22/2005 1:52:52 PM (3180 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 2:11:49 PM (3198 views)

Toner refill kits..... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 1:01:27 PM (2955 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/21/2005 1:39:05 PM (3385 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 4:11:19 PM (3258 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 4:12:14 PM (3240 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/21/2005 4:29:17 PM (3221 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/21/2005 5:33:40 PM (3410 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Alan Hirsch/NY
2/21/2005 11:12:03 PM (4259 views)

Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/21/2005 11:38:55 AM (2318 views)
Re: Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - David Bloys/TX
2/21/2005 1:03:45 PM (3243 views)
Re: Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2005 2:28:50 PM (3191 views)
Re: Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - David Bloys/TX
2/21/2005 7:52:32 PM (3171 views)

Enhanced listing renewal - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/21/2005 4:30:42 AM (2281 views)
Re: Enhanced listing renewal - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2005 9:57:47 AM (3166 views)

did you read this ChoicePoint Identity... - Donna Grady/NC
2/19/2005 10:25:22 PM (2415 views)
Re: did you read this ChoicePoint Identity... - Smitty Strickland/SC
2/20/2005 2:37:42 PM (3268 views)

TELEPHONE LISTING/PRIVACY #2 - Donna Grady/NC
2/19/2005 9:38:34 PM (1670 views)

Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/19/2005 3:51:44 PM (2401 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/19/2005 5:54:16 PM (3454 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/19/2005 6:13:22 PM (3630 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/19/2005 9:43:04 PM (3606 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/20/2005 2:46:01 PM (3470 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/20/2005 8:09:20 PM (3527 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/20/2005 8:13:43 PM (3439 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/20/2005 9:45:47 PM (3479 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/21/2005 3:54:44 AM (3328 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/21/2005 8:48:04 AM (3338 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/21/2005 9:55:06 AM (3440 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/21/2005 3:45:45 PM (3456 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2005 3:53:20 PM (3395 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/21/2005 3:59:33 PM (3406 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2005 4:07:25 PM (3387 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/21/2005 9:31:39 PM (3339 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/21/2005 10:24:23 PM (3332 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Jay Duncan/MO
2/22/2005 8:34:54 AM (3311 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/22/2005 11:17:01 PM (3340 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Jay Duncan
2/23/2005 8:07:30 AM (3373 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/23/2005 12:21:38 AM (3423 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/23/2005 8:56:01 AM (3356 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/23/2005 2:16:03 PM (3227 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Marty Munson/MI
2/23/2005 10:10:35 PM (3333 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/23/2005 11:36:06 PM (3335 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Jennifer Masters/MI
2/23/2005 11:33:11 PM (3396 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 12:01:14 AM (3322 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 12:06:05 AM (3261 views)

ATTN: Companies who work in West Virginia - Slade Smith/OH
2/18/2005 4:38:53 PM (1691 views)


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