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I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:26:53 AM (2199 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 8:33:25 PM (2766 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 10:30:50 PM (2683 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:53:23 PM (2553 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/25/2005 12:19:59 AM (2588 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 6:12:14 AM (2608 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 7:55:35 AM (2618 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 8:03:23 AM (2511 views)

My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/23/2005 10:40:59 PM (2313 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/23/2005 11:24:37 PM (2706 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/24/2005 12:12:22 AM (2745 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/24/2005 7:51:43 AM (2794 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 9:46:59 AM (2748 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/24/2005 9:56:34 AM (2713 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 1:20:14 PM (2682 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jay Duncan
2/25/2005 1:23:59 PM (2732 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 4:01:55 PM (2746 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:15:07 PM (2730 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:24:49 PM (2638 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/25/2005 6:02:40 PM (2765 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Helene/GA
2/26/2005 12:10:59 AM (2717 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/25/2005 6:20:41 PM (2692 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/25/2005 6:52:40 PM (2637 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 9:44:56 PM (2660 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/26/2005 8:57:45 AM (2961 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 10:21:54 AM (2715 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 11:59:39 AM (2822 views)


"Unlike other states, time is a marketable commodity in Connecticut because we have no unified county seats in which to search titles. we lose a lot of time on the road traveling between town halls. If the client is going to require additional and unnecessary work, they should be prepared to pay for it. I don't think that is a concept that is too difficult to understand."

This was the point that I was grasping at, not the idea that this is a job that can be done from home or anything else that would marginalize this job/profession.

The point that I am making is that whether you are self-employed, or you are running an abstracting service, there are costs that you incur no matter what - these are the costs that exist simply to do your job. You write these costs off at the end of the year (an if you aren't get a new accountant). While it is money that you had to spend, at the least it is not taxed, and it is money spent in order to make considerably more money.

The REAL commodity is in fact time when it comes to abstracts.

It takes time to learn your job, and gain a level of expertise.

It takes time to travel to various counties (which by the way, the idea that there is not a central place to get information in Ct. counties totally stinks, and justifies the additional cost even moreso when you have to research something you did right the first time - hats off to that business approach).

It takes time to prepare the abstract.

Depending on how you send the information back to an agency, it may take even more time to scan the information over to the client.

Again, I have been on BOTH sides of the fence, so I am not trying to be callous in any way. When you remove the cost of the preparation of the abstract (supplies and travel) the actual cost of the document is $10-$15. The remainder of the money made on that search is paid for YOUR TIME and the knowledge you built over TIME.

Now, I have no idea what the pay structure is in other states, or even outside of Southern NY. From what I have seen though, the people in the business are doing well for themselves. My frame of reference is this, so I apologize if what I have said comes off as rude. I just think that if this is a stie for abstractors and professionals in the title industry, it is worthwhile to be honest and on the same page with one another. When I see guys in their mid- to late-twenties driving around in BMWs and Lexus vehicles, I find it hard to talk about profit margins in a negative sense. And again, this may be wholly different elsewhere, but I can't imagine it being that different.

And considering the health - financially - of these abstractors, it is why I maintain that abstractors have to be more agreeable on the phone when dealing with their clients. I think charging for reexamination of something that has been already provided is the perfect response to be sure that the client is not going to call for mundane issues.

But, I am sure there are those that will disagree, and thankfully this is America so we can continue to discuss things that we don't see eye to eye on...

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Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:10:31 PM (2647 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:19:42 PM (2587 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 5:58:14 PM (2576 views)

Arkansas Abstractors - Marty Munson/MI
2/23/2005 9:59:55 PM (2240 views)
Re: Arkansas Abstractors - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/24/2005 8:59:28 PM (2537 views)

Out of pocket and need some help... - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/23/2005 11:52:06 AM (2077 views)
Nevermind!! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/23/2005 12:05:00 PM (2608 views)

Ohio County Addresses Bulk Release of Public Records - Robert Franco/OH
2/23/2005 10:42:08 AM (2228 views)
Re: Ohio County Addresses Bulk Release of Public Records - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/23/2005 7:07:26 PM (2717 views)


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Radio Coverage of online "public" records - David Bloys/TX
2/22/2005 7:42:24 PM (2801 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/22/2005 9:39:56 PM (2893 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - David Bloys/TX
2/23/2005 12:12:46 AM (2911 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 5:57:07 AM (2735 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 6:04:30 AM (2763 views)
Re: Radio Coverage of online "public" records - James Guill/VA
2/24/2005 6:11:17 AM (2681 views)

SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - ROY PISTEY/PA
2/22/2005 4:14:19 PM (2094 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 4:24:52 PM (2728 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/22/2005 6:19:50 PM (2880 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/22/2005 6:56:34 PM (2804 views)
Re: SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 7:03:49 PM (2830 views)

Subscriptions... - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2005 4:56:19 PM (2107 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 5:18:44 PM (2805 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 11:55:17 AM (2722 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/22/2005 1:48:50 PM (2720 views)
PS - I Just Checked Something - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/22/2005 1:52:52 PM (2670 views)
Re: Subscriptions...another suggestion - Robert Franco/OH
2/22/2005 2:11:49 PM (2717 views)

Toner refill kits..... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 1:01:27 PM (2728 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/21/2005 1:39:05 PM (2846 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 4:11:19 PM (2784 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/21/2005 4:12:14 PM (2724 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/21/2005 4:29:17 PM (2757 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/21/2005 5:33:40 PM (2896 views)
Re: Toner refill kits..... - Alan Hirsch/NY
2/21/2005 11:12:03 PM (3695 views)

Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/21/2005 11:38:55 AM (2112 views)
Re: Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - David Bloys/TX
2/21/2005 1:03:45 PM (2759 views)
Re: Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2005 2:28:50 PM (2722 views)
Re: Are Arizona/Nevada Online? - David Bloys/TX
2/21/2005 7:52:32 PM (2706 views)

Enhanced listing renewal - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/21/2005 4:30:42 AM (2035 views)
Re: Enhanced listing renewal - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2005 9:57:47 AM (2704 views)

did you read this ChoicePoint Identity... - Donna Grady/NC
2/19/2005 10:25:22 PM (2224 views)
Re: did you read this ChoicePoint Identity... - Smitty Strickland/SC
2/20/2005 2:37:42 PM (2768 views)

TELEPHONE LISTING/PRIVACY #2 - Donna Grady/NC
2/19/2005 9:38:34 PM (1544 views)

Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/19/2005 3:51:44 PM (2180 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/19/2005 5:54:16 PM (2953 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/19/2005 6:13:22 PM (3066 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/19/2005 9:43:04 PM (3015 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/20/2005 2:46:01 PM (2901 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/20/2005 8:09:20 PM (2968 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/20/2005 8:13:43 PM (2872 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/20/2005 9:45:47 PM (2911 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/21/2005 3:54:44 AM (2759 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/21/2005 8:48:04 AM (2803 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/21/2005 9:55:06 AM (2946 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/21/2005 3:45:45 PM (2884 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2005 3:53:20 PM (2877 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/21/2005 3:59:33 PM (2877 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2005 4:07:25 PM (2789 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/21/2005 9:31:39 PM (2755 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/21/2005 10:24:23 PM (2779 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Jay Duncan/MO
2/22/2005 8:34:54 AM (2755 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/22/2005 11:17:01 PM (2814 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Jay Duncan
2/23/2005 8:07:30 AM (2840 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/23/2005 12:21:38 AM (2865 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/23/2005 8:56:01 AM (2849 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/23/2005 2:16:03 PM (2694 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Marty Munson/MI
2/23/2005 10:10:35 PM (2758 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/23/2005 11:36:06 PM (2775 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Jennifer Masters/MI
2/23/2005 11:33:11 PM (2854 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 12:01:14 AM (2759 views)
Re: Fees Being Charged - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 12:06:05 AM (2736 views)

ATTN: Companies who work in West Virginia - Slade Smith/OH
2/18/2005 4:38:53 PM (1575 views)


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