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fax to email software - Regina Engebritson Engebritson
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Re: fax to email software - David Bloys/TX
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Re: fax to email software - Ted Lannon/MA
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Re: fax to email software - Doug Hollowell/TX
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title search in CA``` - Chet Mazur/CA
3/1/2005 8:44:34 AM (2072 views)
Re: title search in CA``` - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:17:09 PM (2701 views)

Who is Absolute Property? - Barbara Bennett/IN
3/1/2005 8:08:44 AM (2329 views)
Re: Who is Absolute Property? - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/1/2005 8:22:21 AM (2924 views)
Re: Who is Absolute Property? - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/1/2005 10:36:47 AM (2938 views)
Re: Who is Absolute Property? - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:20:02 PM (2966 views)
Re: Who is Absolute Property? - ARTHUR LIPPMAN/MA
3/4/2005 9:08:24 PM (2710 views)

With all of these scams and other things going on... - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 4:40:05 PM (2161 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 5:01:13 PM (2990 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 5:06:08 PM (2897 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Robert Breakell/CT
2/28/2005 7:30:32 PM (2781 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/1/2005 3:34:27 AM (2857 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Susie/OH
2/28/2005 10:29:21 PM (2828 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 10:33:35 AM (2808 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/5/2005 11:18:01 PM (2818 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Jay Duncan/MO
3/5/2005 11:39:30 PM (2758 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/6/2005 11:08:49 PM (2751 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Douglas Gallant/OH
3/7/2005 8:29:06 PM (2705 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Donna Grady/NC
3/2/2005 8:12:50 AM (2912 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Robert Franco/OH
3/2/2005 9:58:34 AM (2708 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/2/2005 10:46:58 AM (2833 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/2/2005 11:17:02 AM (2834 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Barbara Bennett/IN
3/2/2005 5:43:32 PM (2855 views)

All in the name of growth! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 10:29:26 AM (2200 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Amy Holder/NJ
2/28/2005 10:38:28 AM (2832 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 10:52:20 AM (2904 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/28/2005 1:49:40 PM (2860 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 4:49:40 PM (2731 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 7:24:11 PM (2779 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 9:17:12 PM (2778 views)


Real Title Services


Thanks for everyone's help with my question about Abstracting Software. - KIM HAASE/MT
2/27/2005 11:48:40 PM (1614 views)

Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 2:36:11 PM (2148 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 2:50:51 PM (2949 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 7:23:33 PM (2940 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 7:25:37 PM (5009 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:20:00 PM (2888 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 3:07:54 PM (3847 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 3:21:23 PM (2967 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - David Bloys/TX
2/27/2005 6:48:41 PM (2929 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 7:35:27 PM (2845 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 9:15:25 PM (2870 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 9:00:44 AM (2970 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 9:17:00 AM (3859 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 2:31:42 PM (2954 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 6:54:04 PM (2918 views)

I was thinking...this may be cool - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:42:05 AM (2208 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 10:38:29 AM (2881 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 3:09:57 PM (3803 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 3:17:50 PM (2790 views)

Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 1:50:10 PM (2167 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:27:44 PM (3031 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 5:08:17 PM (2950 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 5:11:24 PM (2928 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 5:35:28 PM (2916 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 5:38:56 PM (2904 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:12:22 PM (3016 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:16:30 PM (2971 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 7:25:05 PM (2894 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/27/2005 10:33:25 PM (2968 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Cathy Iffergan/TX
2/28/2005 12:46:48 PM (2906 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Michelle Elko/TX
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Re: Need help in Texas - Doug Hollowell/TX
3/4/2005 8:24:07 PM (2910 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/5/2005 12:38:21 AM (2832 views)

Bank of America....Shame on you - Loretta Reed/MD
2/26/2005 10:22:34 AM (2274 views)
Re: Bank of America....Shame on you - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 10:24:37 AM (2922 views)
Re: Bank of America....Shame on you - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 5:01:18 PM (2831 views)

More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/26/2005 8:37:47 AM (2521 views)
Re: More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 1:00:44 PM (3011 views)
Re: More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/26/2005 1:48:52 PM (2985 views)
Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/26/2005 9:17:22 PM (2829 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Amy Holder/NJ
2/27/2005 12:12:49 AM (2817 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 10:04:57 AM (2857 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Donna Grady/NC
2/27/2005 1:30:34 PM (2954 views)
MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 2:37:30 PM (2901 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 5:20:58 PM (2897 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 6:20:00 PM (2837 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Donna Grady/NC
2/27/2005 7:58:51 PM (3033 views)

Again, I have to agree with Mark.  Each state IS different. The abstractor in NC has one hand tied behind it's back trying to balance working for the MAN/ATTORNEY  or working for the title companies which is discouraged by the NC State Bar.  In the late 90's the NC State Bar made it their business to disbar attorneys that used independent title abstractors who had employees.  They were also investigating independents that worked for title companies.

To date the NC State Bar has made another proposal to make it unethical for attorneys to use independent abstractors that employ abstractors, JUST at the time that I was planning to expand and hire abstractors.  As a one person business, I can not compete for $45.00 a search unless I expand to several counties which I can not do alone.  The proposal also goes as far as telling the attorneys that they can not be connected to title vendor companies which is the way title vendors in NC have to operate because title searches have to be "rubber stamped" by an attorney or else it can be constituted as unauthorized practice of law.  There are three law firms that I know of that vendor companies send their NC & SC title searches to for review.  I applaud this set up because I have seen first hand how well it works.  To be honest, as an abstractor, I like to know that there is someone who legally understands any question that I have on a search that I can go to for an answer.  There are some issues in the field that I can decide based on my own experience and expertise but not every search is alike.  All of that is slipping away by title work being ordered by who knows who or where.  There are some people that I talk to when I return a search that do not have a clue how involved the search was as to why it took me so long to return the product.  When I ask them a question I get the same answer, Just make a note of it on your report sheet.  Some days it does not pay to be the only title searcher for my company.  If a search looks like it will take longer than two hours to complete I have to table it and move on so that I can make a profit that day.  Then I run the risk of not returning the search on time and never getting a search from that title company again.  But then if I spend too much time on one search then I can't get to some other title company's search that day and run the risk of never getting a search from them.  There is just so much that one person can do in one day.

So I agree with Mark that some of us do not have it as well as others because of the change in the title industry.  One big change being 24 hour turnaround.  My answer was to increase my personnel to increase my business until the NC State Bar's proposal popped up.  By the way, as always with the NC State Bar, they are dragging this out.  It was supposed to voted on in January.  Still no word on what was decided.  So we are in limbo. 

I wish I was not the only NC abstractor that keeps talking about this on this message board but some of the NC abstractors do not have a clue about this.  Most NC independents work for attorneys and do not carry E & O insurance because of the "old 1990's way of doing business". 

An attorney that I contract with also contracts with other independents who do not carry E & O insurance.  He just had a claim from one of those other independents so his
E & O will pay it out.  Problem is:  He pays that independent the same amount of money he pays me for a search.  And he told me that he wish it had been me cause then he would have been "off the hook".  It's NOT fair to me to have the overhead and not be paid more.  But if I want his business which substains me totally, then I just have to suck it up. 

So now you see why I feel like I am being jerked around and toyed with.  Realtors seem to be the best field in this title industry.  They make 3 to 6 % commission on the sale price, they don't have to be insured against mistakes, they have the luxury cars to drive their clients around in, and they don't have a clue about how to fill out a deceit sales contract to help the abstractor determine which property to search. 

So how many of you on this message board who are a ONE person abstracting company are really satisfied and able to make a better living at this than you did four years ago?  It seems that four years ago was when title searches had to be done in 24 or less hours.
  I would love to see you comment on this thread.

Folks, abstracting is a dying art.  Those of us who have been searching over 15 years have seen the changes and do not like what we see.  My paralegal friend was talking to her financial advisor who told her that her profession, title searcher, was becoming obsolete.  A local attorney here retired early because he was being called upon to fix the messes that the title companies have made in this area.  There is something wrong that needs to be fixed.  How do you fix it? and Who fixes it?

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Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 8:04:02 PM (2806 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/27/2005 8:14:53 PM (2771 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:15:56 PM (2790 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Amy Holder/NJ
2/27/2005 10:46:56 PM (2868 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 10:10:27 AM (2882 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Amy Holder/NJ
2/28/2005 10:36:23 AM (2897 views)

We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 9:26:15 PM (2140 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:25:02 PM (2915 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:35:42 PM (2864 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 1:08:49 PM (2831 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - PatriciaPalmer/PA
2/26/2005 2:55:48 PM (2841 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 6:05:50 PM (2823 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:31:53 PM (2878 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 6:04:32 PM (2786 views)

need some opinions... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/25/2005 11:37:47 AM (2277 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 11:52:31 AM (2900 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jay Duncan/MO
2/25/2005 11:55:50 AM (2809 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/26/2005 11:28:44 PM (2744 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 10:44:04 AM (2700 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/25/2005 4:50:12 PM (2834 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/25/2005 5:18:03 PM (2771 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:39:40 PM (2794 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/28/2005 4:56:29 PM (2784 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 10:28:14 AM (2746 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:33:37 PM (2814 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
3/1/2005 3:13:09 PM (2704 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 5:38:43 PM (2683 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:54:09 PM (2736 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 11:24:54 AM (2637 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Ms. A/MO
3/1/2005 12:15:16 PM (2672 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:36:34 PM (2687 views)

ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 5:22:20 AM (2942 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Robert Breakell/CT
2/25/2005 7:57:34 AM (2642 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 9:14:58 AM (2614 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 8:26:05 AM (2604 views)

Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Susie/OH
2/24/2005 7:14:12 PM (2146 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 10:32:17 AM (2714 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:15:06 PM (2658 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Samson Ugorji/MD
2/28/2005 11:53:36 PM (2612 views)


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