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title search in CA``` - Chet Mazur/CA
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Re: title search in CA``` - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Who is Absolute Property? - Barbara Bennett/IN
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Re: Who is Absolute Property? - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/1/2005 10:36:47 AM (2938 views)
Re: Who is Absolute Property? - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:20:02 PM (2968 views)
Re: Who is Absolute Property? - ARTHUR LIPPMAN/MA
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With all of these scams and other things going on... - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 4:40:05 PM (2161 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 5:01:13 PM (2992 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 5:06:08 PM (2898 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Robert Breakell/CT
2/28/2005 7:30:32 PM (2782 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/1/2005 3:34:27 AM (2858 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Susie/OH
2/28/2005 10:29:21 PM (2828 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 10:33:35 AM (2809 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/5/2005 11:18:01 PM (2818 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Jay Duncan/MO
3/5/2005 11:39:30 PM (2759 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/6/2005 11:08:49 PM (2752 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Douglas Gallant/OH
3/7/2005 8:29:06 PM (2705 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Donna Grady/NC
3/2/2005 8:12:50 AM (2913 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Robert Franco/OH
3/2/2005 9:58:34 AM (2710 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/2/2005 10:46:58 AM (2834 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/2/2005 11:17:02 AM (2836 views)
Re: With all of these scams and other things going on... - Barbara Bennett/IN
3/2/2005 5:43:32 PM (2855 views)

All in the name of growth! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 10:29:26 AM (2200 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Amy Holder/NJ
2/28/2005 10:38:28 AM (2832 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 10:52:20 AM (2904 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/28/2005 1:49:40 PM (2861 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 4:49:40 PM (2732 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 7:24:11 PM (2779 views)
Re: All in the name of growth! - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 9:17:12 PM (2778 views)

Thanks for everyone's help with my question about Abstracting Software. - KIM HAASE/MT
2/27/2005 11:48:40 PM (1614 views)


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Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 2:36:11 PM (2148 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 2:50:51 PM (2949 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 7:23:33 PM (2941 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 7:25:37 PM (5009 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:20:00 PM (2889 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 3:07:54 PM (3849 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 3:21:23 PM (2968 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - David Bloys/TX
2/27/2005 6:48:41 PM (2930 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 7:35:27 PM (2845 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 9:15:25 PM (2871 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 9:00:44 AM (2972 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 9:17:00 AM (3861 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 2:31:42 PM (2954 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 6:54:04 PM (2918 views)

I was thinking...this may be cool - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:42:05 AM (2208 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 10:38:29 AM (2881 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 3:09:57 PM (3804 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 3:17:50 PM (2792 views)

Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 1:50:10 PM (2167 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:27:44 PM (3031 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 5:35:28 PM (2916 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 5:38:56 PM (2905 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:12:22 PM (3016 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Need help in Texas - Cathy Iffergan/TX
2/28/2005 12:46:48 PM (2906 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Michelle Elko/TX
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Re: Need help in Texas - Doug Hollowell/TX
3/4/2005 8:24:07 PM (2911 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/5/2005 12:38:21 AM (2833 views)

Bank of America....Shame on you - Loretta Reed/MD
2/26/2005 10:22:34 AM (2274 views)
Re: Bank of America....Shame on you - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 10:24:37 AM (2922 views)
Re: Bank of America....Shame on you - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 5:01:18 PM (2833 views)

More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/26/2005 8:37:47 AM (2521 views)
Re: More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 1:00:44 PM (3011 views)
Re: More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/26/2005 1:48:52 PM (2986 views)
Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/26/2005 9:17:22 PM (2830 views)

Thanks for your response and words of encouragement..

I want to be clear though…..I’m not basing my decision to leave the business based on the results of my mailings.

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Next series of mailings is going to be the opposite offer.That means that the ones that got the low ball offer will now get the other offer and vice versa.

  

This decision has been evolving over the past year.

 

Let me tell the story as briefly as I can because I want to be clear on how & why I came to this decision. Who knows?...Maybe someone will see something I don’t and give an objective viewpoint…

 

I’ve been in the biz for 18 years now, 14 of those as an independent.

 

I started out with one client…my previous employer

5 years later I had something like 17 clients…..all local title companies.

 

I built up my customer base SOLELY on referrals and I had a very nice deal going.

 

Over the years, through mergers, going out of business, and me giving up a few smaller accounts, my client base has gone down to 7 clients.

 

I ‘v raised my prices every few years, so the price increases offset the attrition…..fine by me. It’s the way I wanted to structure my business..a “lifestyle “choice if you will.

 

Sounds pretty damn good……..

 

Until last year….

 

4 of my 7 accounts have informed me that once this company  DataTrace gets their plant up & running, I’m history…done…needed no more.

 

DataTrace is not marketing on price..they charge very well.

They are getting a huge share because of the technology they are bringing to the business HERE IN NJ.

 

They have already put a real hurtin on a lot of searchers

Me included……….they’ve taken 3 survey clients and 1 title client……to the tune of about 12-15 thousand a year in lost business to me.

 

Once my other accounts switch………..I’m done because they are my biggest clients..

 

The other threat, or maybe I should say hindrance ARE OTHER ABSTRACTORS…..maybe not in your area…..but it is VERY REAL here.

 

SO I found myself between this MegaConglomerate who are driving me out with technology, and these abstractors who are charging such low fees that it basically has reduced the searcher to a low wage  “commoditized” service.

 

I did my mailing as test to see if I would even want to stay and compete.

 

So the way I see it is….if I want to stay in business, I have to lower my fees, expand the coverage area, spread myself thin and burn myself out….not gonna do it.

 

I really do not see a future that is fulfilling here any longer. I like the work, but not the conditions under which I will have to perform the work

 

 

David, getting back to the mailing, I went after title companies first because that ‘s where the money is , out here at least.

 

The financial instituitions utilize the services of what we call “credit checkers” and they do these record owners for anywhere between $8 -$15 each. (they still hand abstract these things)

 

I’m exploring another angle to market my knowledge as an abstractor, but not in an abstractors role.(can’t divulge yet).

But it does have to do with the real estate investor community.

 

Once I test it and feel it’s a viable income source…I will let all of you know so that you may incorporate it into your business.

 

I am more than willing to answer any marketing questions that anyone may have.

 

BUT..I want to be clear to everyone….I will eventually be running an advertising/promotional consulting business , so I will eventually be charging for “stuff”……BUT…in the meantime I am at all of your service.

 

 

Thanks for staying with me here

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Amy Holder/NJ
2/27/2005 12:12:49 AM (2818 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 10:04:57 AM (2857 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Donna Grady/NC
2/27/2005 1:30:34 PM (2954 views)
MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 2:37:30 PM (2902 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 5:20:58 PM (2899 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 6:20:00 PM (2837 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Donna Grady/NC
2/27/2005 7:58:51 PM (3034 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 8:04:02 PM (2807 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/27/2005 8:14:53 PM (2771 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:15:56 PM (2791 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Amy Holder/NJ
2/27/2005 10:46:56 PM (2870 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 10:10:27 AM (2883 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Amy Holder/NJ
2/28/2005 10:36:23 AM (2901 views)

We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 9:26:15 PM (2140 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:25:02 PM (2915 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:35:42 PM (2865 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 1:08:49 PM (2831 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - PatriciaPalmer/PA
2/26/2005 2:55:48 PM (2842 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 6:05:50 PM (2825 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:31:53 PM (2879 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 6:04:32 PM (2787 views)

need some opinions... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/25/2005 11:37:47 AM (2277 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 11:52:31 AM (2902 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jay Duncan/MO
2/25/2005 11:55:50 AM (2809 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/26/2005 11:28:44 PM (2745 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 10:44:04 AM (2700 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/25/2005 4:50:12 PM (2837 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/25/2005 5:18:03 PM (2773 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:39:40 PM (2794 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/28/2005 4:56:29 PM (2785 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 10:28:14 AM (2748 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:33:37 PM (2814 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
3/1/2005 3:13:09 PM (2705 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 5:38:43 PM (2684 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:54:09 PM (2736 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 11:24:54 AM (2638 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Ms. A/MO
3/1/2005 12:15:16 PM (2672 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:36:34 PM (2689 views)

ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 5:22:20 AM (2942 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Robert Breakell/CT
2/25/2005 7:57:34 AM (2642 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 9:14:58 AM (2615 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 8:26:05 AM (2606 views)

Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Susie/OH
2/24/2005 7:14:12 PM (2146 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 10:32:17 AM (2714 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:15:06 PM (2658 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Samson Ugorji/MD
2/28/2005 11:53:36 PM (2614 views)

How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/24/2005 1:16:03 PM (2294 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 1:33:15 PM (2767 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Jay Duncan
2/24/2005 6:25:42 PM (2860 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 6:20:10 AM (2723 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/24/2005 10:01:52 PM (2640 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/24/2005 10:57:34 PM (2698 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/25/2005 3:42:47 PM (2644 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/25/2005 8:09:54 PM (2666 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 6:03:13 PM (2693 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 7:23:47 PM (2628 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 8:35:47 PM (2596 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 9:11:44 PM (2642 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 9:22:34 PM (2603 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
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