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Nationwide Title A@ Abstract, Inc. - James "Lin" Toney/MS
3/28/2005 9:38:36 AM (2676 views)
Re: Nationwide Title A@ Abstract, Inc. - David Chisolm/MS
3/28/2005 10:11:23 AM (3650 views)
Re: Nationwide Title A@ Abstract, Inc. - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/28/2005 11:57:59 AM (3448 views)
Re: Nationwide Title A@ Abstract, Inc. - Robert Franco/OH
3/28/2005 1:19:07 PM (3525 views)
Re: Nationwide Title A@ Abstract, Inc. - Barbara Bennett/IN
3/28/2005 6:17:43 PM (3434 views)
Re: Nationwide Title A@ Abstract, Inc. - Robb Grandon/OH
3/29/2005 7:47:59 AM (3402 views)
Re: Nationwide Title A@ Abstract, Inc. - central search inc central search inc/WI
3/29/2005 9:08:25 AM (3346 views)
Re: Nationwide Title A@ Abstract, Inc. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/29/2005 11:18:02 AM (3403 views)
Re: Nationwide Title A@ Abstract, Inc. - Russ Frye/GA
4/6/2005 9:44:52 PM (3320 views)

Michael Franks - David Chisolm/MS
3/28/2005 2:19:21 AM (2344 views)
Re: Michael Franks - Michael Frank/TX
3/28/2005 9:33:40 AM (3318 views)

Under the wire - Bernie O'Hare/PA
3/27/2005 11:26:34 PM (2313 views)
Re: Under the wire - James "Lin" Toney/MS
3/28/2005 12:56:29 AM (3402 views)
Re: Under the wire - Helene/GA
3/28/2005 9:02:03 PM (3249 views)

Need Email Address... Urgent - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/27/2005 10:45:35 PM (3081 views)
Re: Need Email Address... Urgent - Glenda Hodge/TN
3/27/2005 11:54:49 PM (3411 views)
Re: Need Email Address... Urgent - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/28/2005 1:15:43 AM (3225 views)
Re: Need Email Address... Urgent - James "Lin" Toney/MS
3/28/2005 12:49:27 AM (3351 views)
Re: Need Email Address... Urgent - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/28/2005 1:21:24 AM (3194 views)
Re: Need Email Address... Urgent - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/28/2005 10:27:28 AM (3274 views)
Re: Need Email Address... Urgent - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/28/2005 10:44:43 AM (3238 views)

Cell Tower Search pricing - James "Lin" Toney/MS
3/26/2005 6:39:38 PM (2394 views)
Re: Cell Tower Search pricing - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/26/2005 10:27:42 PM (3468 views)
Re: Cell Tower Search pricing - James "Lin" Toney/MS
3/26/2005 10:35:48 PM (3506 views)
Re: Cell Tower Search pricing - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/26/2005 11:43:23 PM (3500 views)
Re: Cell Tower Search pricing - Len Page/MA
3/28/2005 12:43:00 PM (3452 views)
Re: Cell Tower Search pricing - Robb Grandon/OH
3/28/2005 6:45:35 PM (3549 views)
Re: Cell Tower Search pricing - Robb Grandon/OH
3/28/2005 6:48:53 PM (3448 views)
Re: Cell Tower Search pricing - James "Lin" Toney/MS
3/28/2005 7:24:48 PM (3481 views)
Re: Cell Tower Search pricing - Douglas Gallant/OH
3/28/2005 7:49:50 PM (3589 views)
Re: Cell Tower Search pricing - James "Lin" Toney/MS
3/28/2005 7:35:12 PM (3468 views)
Re: Cell Tower Search pricing - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/28/2005 7:51:16 PM (3433 views)
Re: Cell Tower Search pricing - Helene/GA
3/28/2005 8:31:14 PM (3347 views)
Re: Cell Tower Search pricing - george Hubka/MI
3/28/2005 11:27:48 PM (3339 views)
Re: Cell Tower Search pricing - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/29/2005 12:05:54 AM (4600 views)




Independent Abstractors - heads up - Ellen Malloy/MO
3/26/2005 9:57:19 AM (2541 views)
Re: Independent Abstractors - heads up - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/26/2005 10:54:23 AM (3323 views)
Re: Independent Abstractors - heads up - Spencer Kinsey/AR
3/26/2005 11:28:16 AM (3430 views)
Re: Independent Abstractors - heads up - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/26/2005 11:04:51 AM (3404 views)
Re: Independent Abstractors - heads up - Ellen Malloy/MO
3/26/2005 12:24:01 PM (3416 views)
Re: Independent Abstractors - heads up - Barbara Bennett/IN
3/26/2005 3:29:16 PM (3379 views)
Re: Independent Abstractors - heads up - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/26/2005 5:57:08 PM (3323 views)
Re: Independent Abstractors - heads up - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/27/2005 6:12:37 PM (3264 views)
Re: Independent Abstractors - heads up - Sandra Morton/KS
3/28/2005 9:44:49 AM (3263 views)
Re: Independent Abstractors - heads up - george Hubka/MI
3/30/2005 12:15:34 AM (3160 views)
Re: Independent Abstractors - heads up - Irene Guntensperger/MD
3/26/2005 7:59:43 PM (3364 views)
Re: Independent Abstractors - heads up - KIM HAASE/MT
4/1/2005 10:47:19 AM (3158 views)
Re: Independent Abstractors - heads up - Donna Grady/NC
4/2/2005 12:27:32 AM (3274 views)
Re: Independent Abstractors - heads up - Robert Franco/OH
4/2/2005 12:56:28 AM (3052 views)
Re: Independent Abstractors - heads up - KIM HAASE/MT
4/2/2005 11:22:11 AM (3109 views)
Re: Independent Abstractors - heads up - Ellen Malloy/MO
4/2/2005 8:53:42 AM (3234 views)
Re: Independent Abstractors - heads up - KIM HAASE/MT
4/2/2005 10:55:04 AM (3105 views)
Re: Independent Abstractors - heads up - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/2/2005 11:09:54 AM (3123 views)

Our Old Story - Pricing - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/25/2005 4:32:15 PM (2286 views)
Re: Our Old Story - Pricing - Douglas Gallant/OH
3/25/2005 5:39:51 PM (3370 views)
Re: Our Old Story - Pricing - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/25/2005 5:47:56 PM (3316 views)
Re: Our Old Story - Pricing - Douglas Gallant/OH
3/25/2005 6:15:26 PM (3247 views)
Re: Our Old Story - Pricing - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/25/2005 6:39:01 PM (3262 views)
Re: Our Old Story - Pricing - george Hubka/MI
3/25/2005 7:13:50 PM (3250 views)
Re: Our Old Story - Pricing - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/26/2005 12:05:54 AM (3280 views)
Re: Our Old Story - Pricing - Spencer Kinsey/AR
3/26/2005 10:32:46 AM (3276 views)
Re: Our Old Story - Pricing - David Bloys/TX
3/26/2005 11:35:30 AM (3176 views)
Re: Our Old Story - Pricing - Spencer Kinsey/AR
3/26/2005 2:34:30 PM (3223 views)
Re: Our Old Story - Pricing - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/26/2005 6:00:14 PM (3113 views)
Re: Our Old Story - Pricing - Helene/GA
3/30/2005 11:28:22 PM (3187 views)
Re: Our Old Story - Pricing - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/26/2005 10:41:23 AM (3183 views)

David Chisolm - Michael Frank/TX
3/25/2005 3:18:08 PM (2404 views)
Re: David Chisolm - David Chisolm/MS
3/25/2005 11:40:25 PM (3387 views)
Re: David Chisolm - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
3/26/2005 10:14:50 AM (3370 views)
Re: David Chisolm - James "Lin" Toney/MS
3/26/2005 10:41:21 AM (3470 views)
Re: David Chisolm - James "Lin" Toney/MS
3/26/2005 10:52:50 AM (3141 views)
Re: David Chisolm - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
3/26/2005 12:24:04 PM (3204 views)
Re: David Chisolm - James "Lin" Toney/MS
3/26/2005 2:56:16 PM (3298 views)
Re: David Chisolm - James "Lin" Toney/MS
3/26/2005 5:38:22 PM (3184 views)
Re: David Chisolm - James "Lin" Toney/MS
3/26/2005 5:42:37 PM (3315 views)
Re: David Chisolm - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
3/26/2005 7:26:51 PM (3213 views)
Re: David Chisolm - James "Lin" Toney/MS
3/26/2005 8:00:34 PM (3197 views)
Re: David Chisolm - David Chisolm/MS
3/28/2005 2:14:57 AM (3263 views)
Re: David Chisolm - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
3/28/2005 9:26:21 AM (3290 views)
Re: David Chisolm - David Chisolm/MS
3/28/2005 2:57:19 PM (3454 views)

How Bad Do You Want It - Cathy Iffergan/TX
3/25/2005 10:36:10 AM (2266 views)
Re: How Bad Do You Want It - David Bloys/TX
3/25/2005 11:12:33 AM (2988 views)
Re: How Bad Do You Want It - george Hubka/MI
3/25/2005 7:18:25 PM (2869 views)
Re: How Bad Do You Want It - David Bloys/TX
3/26/2005 3:21:27 AM (3117 views)
Re: How Bad Do You Want It - Bernie O'Hare/PA
3/27/2005 10:50:31 PM (3068 views)
Re: How Bad Do You Want It - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/28/2005 9:52:06 AM (3036 views)
I apologize for the misunderstanding - Catherine Iffergan/TX
3/29/2005 9:40:26 AM (3244 views)

How many have counties opened tommorrow? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/24/2005 11:52:04 PM (2129 views)
Re: How many have counties opened tommorrow? - Tammy Harkay/OH
3/25/2005 12:35:27 AM (3056 views)
Re: How many have counties opened tommorrow? - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/25/2005 12:50:27 AM (3126 views)
Re: How many have counties opened tommorrow? - Loretta Reed/MD
3/25/2005 9:14:08 AM (3173 views)
Re: How many have counties opened tommorrow? - Cathy Iffergan/TX
3/25/2005 9:28:38 AM (3170 views)
Re: How many have counties opened tommorrow? - Robert Franco/OH
3/25/2005 9:41:09 AM (3093 views)
Re: How many have counties opened tommorrow? - Sandra Morton/KS
3/25/2005 1:45:37 PM (3161 views)
Re: How many have counties opened tommorrow? - george Hubka/MI
3/25/2005 7:21:10 PM (3020 views)
Re: How many have counties opened tommorrow? - Irene Guntensperger/MD
3/26/2005 8:29:12 PM (3012 views)
Re: How many have counties opened tommorrow? - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/27/2005 8:00:49 PM (3133 views)

All the not so small stuff . . . - Michaela Urban/OH
3/24/2005 11:08:49 PM (2081 views)
Re: All the not so small stuff . . . - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/24/2005 11:44:16 PM (3163 views)
Re: All the not so small stuff . . . - Michaela Urban/OH
3/25/2005 5:17:06 PM (3129 views)
Re: All the not so small stuff . . . - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
3/26/2005 10:20:00 AM (3098 views)

Heading to Florida - Jay Duncan
3/24/2005 6:42:22 PM (2197 views)
Re: Heading to Florida - Barbara Bennett/IN
3/24/2005 6:48:04 PM (3243 views)
Disney Hints and Tips - Cathy Iffergan/TX
3/24/2005 7:11:05 PM (3225 views)
Re: Disney Hints and Tips - Robert Breakell/CT
3/24/2005 8:46:00 PM (3088 views)
Re: Disney Hints and Tips - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/24/2005 11:01:08 PM (3215 views)
Re: Heading to Florida - Catherine Iffergan/TX
3/25/2005 10:10:17 AM (3122 views)
Re: Heading to Florida - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
3/26/2005 10:20:52 AM (3203 views)
Re: Heading to Florida - Jay Duncan/MO
3/30/2005 10:43:05 AM (3070 views)
Re: Heading to Florida - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/31/2005 9:25:29 PM (3035 views)
Re: Heading to Florida - Judy Nisonger/CA
4/2/2005 11:31:03 PM (3099 views)
Re: Heading to Florida - Jay Duncan
4/4/2005 8:29:50 AM (2979 views)

Hey Kevin! - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/24/2005 11:33:43 AM (2078 views)
Re: Hey Kevin! - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/24/2005 2:45:55 PM (3244 views)
Re: Hey Kevin! - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/24/2005 5:58:28 PM (3190 views)
Re: Hey Kevin! - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/24/2005 9:38:31 PM (3103 views)
Re: Hey Kevin! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/24/2005 10:58:56 PM (3109 views)
Re: Hey Kevin! - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/25/2005 11:55:41 PM (3172 views)

State Farm Insurance - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/24/2005 9:43:58 AM (2242 views)
Re: State Farm Insurance - Spencer Kinsey/AR
3/24/2005 2:51:00 PM (3123 views)
Re: State Farm Insurance - David Chisolm/MS
3/25/2005 11:42:42 PM (3129 views)
Re: State Farm Insurance - Amanda Fuller/TX
3/25/2005 1:17:27 AM (3181 views)
Re: State Farm Insurance - Spencer Kinsey/AR
3/25/2005 9:56:54 AM (3167 views)
Re: State Farm Insurance - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/25/2005 10:07:13 AM (3083 views)

The Grand Pecking Order - Robb Grandon/OH
3/24/2005 9:43:48 AM (2272 views)
Re: The Grand Pecking Order - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/24/2005 9:53:59 AM (2801 views)
Re: The Grand Pecking Order - Robb Grandon/OH
3/24/2005 10:00:50 AM (2795 views)
Re: The Grand Pecking Order - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/24/2005 10:09:49 AM (2756 views)
Re: The Grand Pecking Order - Robb Grandon/OH
3/24/2005 10:28:48 AM (3646 views)
Re: The Grand Pecking Order - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/24/2005 10:40:42 AM (2763 views)
Re: The Grand Pecking Order - george Hubka/MI
3/24/2005 8:48:01 PM (2588 views)
Re: The Grand Pecking Order - Jay Duncan
3/24/2005 10:41:09 AM (2783 views)
Re: The Grand Pecking Order - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/24/2005 10:43:34 AM (2734 views)
Re: The Grand Pecking Order - Jay Duncan
3/24/2005 11:19:44 AM (2741 views)
Re: The Grand Pecking Order - Karen Hollenbeck/MI
3/24/2005 7:04:04 PM (2729 views)
Re: The Grand Pecking Order - Deborah Manion/VA
3/24/2005 10:53:55 AM (2634 views)
Re: The Grand Pecking Order - Deborah Manion/VA
3/24/2005 11:03:18 AM (2681 views)
Re: The Grand Pecking Order - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/24/2005 3:28:14 PM (2653 views)
Re: The Grand Pecking Order - David Bloys/TX
3/24/2005 11:05:02 AM (2661 views)
Re: The Grand Pecking Order - Robb Grandon/OH
3/24/2005 12:30:34 PM (2717 views)
Re: The Grand Pecking Order - Robb Grandon/OH
3/24/2005 1:36:33 PM (2668 views)

I have received additional emails which make this post necessary.


I AM NOT disrespecting any quality abstractors out there that offer a $35.00 price tag.

I was simply noting what my research has shown me based upon 100's of companies that I have worked with, looked into working with or will NOT work with.   I have plenty of FANTASTIC abstracting companies that provide me great turn time - great quality - email - during-the-day-contact method, etc for $35.00.

This was more of a wake up call for those companies that are providing good service but are marking their prices too low.  Nobody SHOULD BE offering an insured current owner product for under $50.00.  Is that realistic at this point, maybe not, but I still believe that is the low-end.

The reality is that searches are now based at a $35.00 rate and anybody trying to get more $ has got to be offering something spectacular.  But from an employer standpoint.  It is very difficult to make any money at $35.00.  It costs money to run a company.  That is something a lot of independents don't understand until they are already in business selling at $35 and can't pay all their bills.  I've seen quite a few companies fold because of this exact short-sightedness.  Only after being in business for 6 months or so do they realize all the costs.

3 searches at $35.00 = $105.00

2 counties about 60 miles @ $.375 per mile = $22.50
Insurance (?$1.00 per order?) = $3.00
The free deeds (5 pgs @ $1.00) = $5.00
Equipment / Supplies (fax, phone line, service fees, toner, paper) = $10.00
Taxes (just social security at 15.3%, you pay both 1/2's) = $15.00

You get paid $105.00 but it cost you $55.50 so you actually get a whooping $49.50.  Oh yeah it takes about 3 hours, so what are you actually left with.

$16.50 / hour

Based upon 1 order per hour you make about $16.50 but what if you are only getting a few orders per day.  You actually have to divide the days net by 8 hours.  If you get 8 orders and make $16.50 you make $16.50 an hour but if you only get 4 orders a day you would actually only be making $8.25 per hour or a little over minimum wage.

It doesn't seem like anything's left over because there really isn't.  You didn't do proper mathematics and research before costing your product at $35.00.  

And you are probably struggling to make it.


Robb, Grand Info, LLC

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