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Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 2:36:11 PM (1927 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 2:50:51 PM (2344 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 7:23:33 PM (2298 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2005 7:25:37 PM (4071 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:20:00 PM (2258 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 3:07:54 PM (3174 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 3:21:23 PM (2301 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - David Bloys/TX
2/27/2005 6:48:41 PM (2246 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 7:35:27 PM (2247 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 9:15:25 PM (2237 views)
Re: Home inspections.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 9:00:44 AM (2298 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 9:17:00 AM (3156 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 2:31:42 PM (2317 views)
Re: Home inspections....found the website - Loretta Reed/MD
2/28/2005 6:54:04 PM (2338 views)

I was thinking...this may be cool - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:42:05 AM (1989 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 10:38:29 AM (2258 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 3:09:57 PM (3107 views)
Re: I was thinking...this may be cool - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 3:17:50 PM (2197 views)

Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 1:50:10 PM (1954 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:27:44 PM (2363 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 5:08:17 PM (2297 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 5:11:24 PM (2290 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/26/2005 5:35:28 PM (2265 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 5:38:56 PM (2253 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:12:22 PM (2313 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:16:30 PM (2291 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 7:25:05 PM (2251 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/27/2005 10:33:25 PM (2288 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Cathy Iffergan/TX
2/28/2005 12:46:48 PM (2300 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Michelle Elko/TX
10/28/2009 12:43:01 AM (2035 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Doug Hollowell/TX
3/4/2005 8:24:07 PM (2311 views)
Re: Need help in Texas - Shannon Blatt/VA
3/5/2005 12:38:21 AM (2213 views)

Bank of America....Shame on you - Loretta Reed/MD
2/26/2005 10:22:34 AM (2067 views)
Re: Bank of America....Shame on you - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 10:24:37 AM (2275 views)
Re: Bank of America....Shame on you - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/28/2005 5:01:18 PM (2197 views)

More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/26/2005 8:37:47 AM (2311 views)
Re: More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 1:00:44 PM (2417 views)
Re: More On Lower Prices And Undercutting - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/26/2005 1:48:52 PM (2328 views)
Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/26/2005 9:17:22 PM (2223 views)

Thanks for your response and words of encouragement..

I want to be clear though…..I’m not basing my decision to leave the business based on the results of my mailings.

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Next series of mailings is going to be the opposite offer.That means that the ones that got the low ball offer will now get the other offer and vice versa.

  

This decision has been evolving over the past year.

 

Let me tell the story as briefly as I can because I want to be clear on how & why I came to this decision. Who knows?...Maybe someone will see something I don’t and give an objective viewpoint…

 

I’ve been in the biz for 18 years now, 14 of those as an independent.

 

I started out with one client…my previous employer

5 years later I had something like 17 clients…..all local title companies.

 

I built up my customer base SOLELY on referrals and I had a very nice deal going.

 

Over the years, through mergers, going out of business, and me giving up a few smaller accounts, my client base has gone down to 7 clients.

 

I ‘v raised my prices every few years, so the price increases offset the attrition…..fine by me. It’s the way I wanted to structure my business..a “lifestyle “choice if you will.

 

Sounds pretty damn good……..

 

Until last year….

 

4 of my 7 accounts have informed me that once this company  DataTrace gets their plant up & running, I’m history…done…needed no more.

 

DataTrace is not marketing on price..they charge very well.

They are getting a huge share because of the technology they are bringing to the business HERE IN NJ.

 

They have already put a real hurtin on a lot of searchers

Me included……….they’ve taken 3 survey clients and 1 title client……to the tune of about 12-15 thousand a year in lost business to me.

 

Once my other accounts switch………..I’m done because they are my biggest clients..

 

The other threat, or maybe I should say hindrance ARE OTHER ABSTRACTORS…..maybe not in your area…..but it is VERY REAL here.

 

SO I found myself between this MegaConglomerate who are driving me out with technology, and these abstractors who are charging such low fees that it basically has reduced the searcher to a low wage  “commoditized” service.

 

I did my mailing as test to see if I would even want to stay and compete.

 

So the way I see it is….if I want to stay in business, I have to lower my fees, expand the coverage area, spread myself thin and burn myself out….not gonna do it.

 

I really do not see a future that is fulfilling here any longer. I like the work, but not the conditions under which I will have to perform the work

 

 

David, getting back to the mailing, I went after title companies first because that ‘s where the money is , out here at least.

 

The financial instituitions utilize the services of what we call “credit checkers” and they do these record owners for anywhere between $8 -$15 each. (they still hand abstract these things)

 

I’m exploring another angle to market my knowledge as an abstractor, but not in an abstractors role.(can’t divulge yet).

But it does have to do with the real estate investor community.

 

Once I test it and feel it’s a viable income source…I will let all of you know so that you may incorporate it into your business.

 

I am more than willing to answer any marketing questions that anyone may have.

 

BUT..I want to be clear to everyone….I will eventually be running an advertising/promotional consulting business , so I will eventually be charging for “stuff”……BUT…in the meantime I am at all of your service.

 

 

Thanks for staying with me here

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Amy Holder/NJ
2/27/2005 12:12:49 AM (2234 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 10:04:57 AM (2253 views)
Re: Thank You Both....this is LONG........ - Donna Grady/NC
2/27/2005 1:30:34 PM (2259 views)
MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 2:37:30 PM (2295 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 5:20:58 PM (2270 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 6:20:00 PM (2247 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Donna Grady/NC
2/27/2005 7:58:51 PM (2388 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/27/2005 8:04:02 PM (2212 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/27/2005 8:14:53 PM (2177 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/27/2005 8:15:56 PM (2170 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Amy Holder/NJ
2/27/2005 10:46:56 PM (2211 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 10:10:27 AM (2237 views)
Re: MORE abstractors should be expressing themselves here in this forum - Amy Holder/NJ
2/28/2005 10:36:23 AM (2254 views)


Real Title Services


We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 9:26:15 PM (1904 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:25:02 PM (2217 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 12:35:42 PM (2225 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
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Re: We can all help stop the fraud - PatriciaPalmer/PA
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Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 6:05:50 PM (2159 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - David Bloys/TX
2/26/2005 7:31:53 PM (2182 views)
Re: We can all help stop the fraud - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 6:04:32 PM (2116 views)

need some opinions... - Amanda Fuller/TX
2/25/2005 11:37:47 AM (2051 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 11:52:31 AM (2280 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/26/2005 11:28:44 PM (2127 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 10:44:04 AM (2133 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/25/2005 4:50:12 PM (2240 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/25/2005 5:18:03 PM (2183 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:39:40 PM (2164 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/28/2005 4:56:29 PM (2146 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 10:28:14 AM (2137 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:33:37 PM (2163 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
3/1/2005 3:13:09 PM (2122 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/1/2005 5:38:43 PM (2084 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 2:54:09 PM (2148 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2005 11:24:54 AM (2037 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Ms. A/MO
3/1/2005 12:15:16 PM (2042 views)
Re: need some opinions... - Judy Nisonger/CA
3/1/2005 1:36:34 PM (2068 views)

ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 5:22:20 AM (2688 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Robert Breakell/CT
2/25/2005 7:57:34 AM (2045 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - Slade Smith/OH
2/25/2005 9:14:58 AM (2026 views)
Re: ChoicePoint and now WestLaw - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2005 8:26:05 AM (2002 views)

Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Susie/OH
2/24/2005 7:14:12 PM (1944 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 10:32:17 AM (2086 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Judy Nisonger/CA
2/28/2005 4:15:06 PM (2092 views)
Re: Deed Reports-Do you have a favorite - Samson Ugorji/MD
2/28/2005 11:53:36 PM (2033 views)

How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/24/2005 1:16:03 PM (2075 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 1:33:15 PM (2183 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Jay Duncan
2/24/2005 6:25:42 PM (2236 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Robert Breakell/CT
2/24/2005 7:40:56 PM (2142 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 6:20:10 AM (2131 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/24/2005 10:01:52 PM (2050 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/24/2005 10:57:34 PM (2142 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/25/2005 3:42:47 PM (2050 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/25/2005 8:09:54 PM (2096 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 6:03:13 PM (2099 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 7:23:47 PM (2032 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/28/2005 8:35:47 PM (2055 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2005 9:11:44 PM (2008 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 9:22:34 PM (2011 views)
Re: How To Make 100% , Positively Certain Your Business Fails In The Next 2 Years.......... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/28/2005 9:12:57 PM (1980 views)

I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:26:53 AM (1961 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 8:33:25 PM (2205 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 10:30:50 PM (2097 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/24/2005 11:53:23 PM (1969 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/25/2005 12:19:59 AM (2017 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 6:12:14 AM (2028 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 7:55:35 AM (2032 views)
Re: I Just Had the Grandest Idea - Maybe? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
2/25/2005 8:03:23 AM (1968 views)

My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/23/2005 10:40:59 PM (2093 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/23/2005 11:24:37 PM (2186 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/24/2005 12:12:22 AM (2226 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/24/2005 7:51:43 AM (2179 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2005 9:46:59 AM (2158 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/24/2005 9:56:34 AM (2142 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 1:20:14 PM (2109 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jay Duncan
2/25/2005 1:23:59 PM (2138 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2005 4:01:55 PM (2145 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:15:07 PM (2160 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/25/2005 5:24:49 PM (2125 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Robert Franco/OH
2/25/2005 6:02:40 PM (2162 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Helene/GA
2/26/2005 12:10:59 AM (2090 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Loretta Reed/MD
2/25/2005 6:20:41 PM (2126 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/25/2005 6:52:40 PM (2024 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2005 9:44:56 PM (2022 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/26/2005 8:57:45 AM (2393 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 10:21:54 AM (2072 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/26/2005 11:59:39 AM (2118 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:10:31 PM (2063 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/26/2005 1:19:42 PM (2024 views)
Re: My pet peeve about "abstracting" companies - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
2/27/2005 5:58:14 PM (2002 views)

Arkansas Abstractors - Marty Munson/MI
2/23/2005 9:59:55 PM (2022 views)
Re: Arkansas Abstractors - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/24/2005 8:59:28 PM (2033 views)

Out of pocket and need some help... - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/23/2005 11:52:06 AM (1864 views)
Nevermind!! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
2/23/2005 12:05:00 PM (2038 views)

Ohio County Addresses Bulk Release of Public Records - Robert Franco/OH
2/23/2005 10:42:08 AM (2015 views)
Re: Ohio County Addresses Bulk Release of Public Records - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/23/2005 7:07:26 PM (2143 views)


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