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CNBC Special on Real Estate Boom - Robert Franco/OH
4/11/2005 5:04:14 PM (2317 views)
Re: CNBC Special on Real Estate Boom - Mark Russomanno/NJ
4/11/2005 5:25:03 PM (2873 views)
Re: CNBC Special on Real Estate Boom - Robert Breakell/CT
4/11/2005 6:05:14 PM (2995 views)
Re: CNBC Special on Real Estate Boom - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/12/2005 8:18:26 AM (2878 views)
Re: CNBC Special on Real Estate Boom - Robert Franco/OH
4/12/2005 10:40:01 AM (2822 views)
I asked this same question on another forum - Susie/OH
4/13/2005 9:19:51 PM (2839 views)

Realty Track - Cathy Iffergan/TX
4/10/2005 8:03:57 PM (1945 views)

Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Donna Grady/NC
4/9/2005 4:01:57 PM (2384 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/9/2005 6:03:25 PM (2739 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - george Hubka/MI
4/9/2005 7:55:10 PM (2771 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/9/2005 9:12:57 PM (2584 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Anne Gilbert/VT
4/10/2005 9:44:08 AM (2735 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/10/2005 1:22:40 PM (2698 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/11/2005 7:51:59 AM (2583 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - James Guill/VA
4/10/2005 5:16:05 PM (2677 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/10/2005 6:23:31 PM (2654 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Shannon Blatt/VA
4/10/2005 6:31:25 PM (2652 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - James Guill/VA
4/10/2005 6:54:30 PM (2743 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Shannon Blatt/VA
4/10/2005 11:39:16 PM (2644 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - george Hubka/MI
4/10/2005 9:46:47 PM (2705 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/10/2005 10:53:40 PM (2675 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
4/11/2005 4:30:01 PM (2740 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/11/2005 7:26:32 PM (4510 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
4/12/2005 5:30:04 PM (2640 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/12/2005 8:59:58 PM (4404 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
4/12/2005 9:44:36 PM (2747 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Shannon Blatt/VA
4/13/2005 12:23:25 AM (2549 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
4/13/2005 1:59:55 PM (2641 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Robert Franco/OH
4/13/2005 2:58:04 PM (2615 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - george Hubka/MI
4/13/2005 3:33:52 PM (2686 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Robert Franco/OH
4/13/2005 3:43:32 PM (2682 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
4/13/2005 4:24:27 PM (2618 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/13/2005 3:44:07 PM (2667 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
4/13/2005 4:39:34 PM (2682 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/13/2005 5:16:30 PM (2634 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/13/2005 8:46:42 PM (2609 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Ellen Malloy/MO
4/12/2005 8:49:10 AM (2530 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Douglas Gallant/OH
4/13/2005 5:13:57 PM (2452 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Donna Grady/NC
4/14/2005 10:17:49 AM (2574 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/14/2005 12:19:01 PM (4216 views)

Amen to Doug's posting:  If you are not local you are probably not running the records properly. 
I agree very much with this. This is why when I set up  This was the sentiment of my clients when they asked for referrals to abstractors outside of the counties we serve. Remote access was not of much concern if the company or county providing the access would stand behind the accuracy. They also wanted local abstractors who would be aware of any differences between in the available data available remotely and that which could only be provided at the courthouse. I set up the Texas Directory of Independent Local Abstractors and Researchers TXDILAR to provide my clients with a directory that would list only those abstractors who lived in or near the counties they served. Because of the expanse and number of Texas Counties this limit was placed at 120 miles.I don't know if any of these abstractors are doing online searches but I do know they at least have the ability to do the searches at the courthouse. They are also more likely to know the differences of what can and cannot be done remotely.

When I looked at the Heineman scam, two of the rural counties that I search were not hit
This is the same situation I found here in Texas. I searhced the offline indexes of about 20 counties that were in my territory and asked other local abstractors to do the same as they visited the other counties. None of the offline counties contained the suspect files. When I went online, I found every county I searched contained one or more. I don't know if this was because Heineman used the online sources to search for victims, if they used the online sources because these could be searched remotely, or if this was just a function of more population in the online counties.

My concerns about "online" access are with the government agencies who allow it more than abstractors who may access it. Many of these agencies do not seem to realize the harm they are causing the citizens of their community. Some also seem unaware the Internet reaches far beyond their jurisdiction and control. I think the disclaimers illustrate this. The counties don't want to take responsibility for accuracy they cannot control and the technology companies don't either. In spite of service providers claims of secure sites hackers readily maneuver in, around and through these sites from anywhere in the world. In the past hackers usually didn't stop at unauthorized access. They would often manipulate the data to suit themselves or even take total control over the system. This is what happened when terrorists hacked into a GIS site and used it to display a grissly beheading of an American citizen. If hackers can do this, imagine if they simply deleated or altered a few hundred or a few thousand releases, deeds or mortgages?

Eventually this would be descovered and it could be corrected from backup files. But who knows how much damage might be done before it was discovered? A single hacker might only redact or change tax liens or judgments filed against him or someone who pays him. Any abstractor accessing the database online would be unaware the documents existed. But abstractor and his client might be held responsible when the error was found if the officials records had been refreshed from backup and showed the missing document.

I have similar concerns regarding the bulk transfer of the public records to outside parties for commercial use. In Florida, the laws were changed to allow their citizens to have sensitive information redacted from the online records. Governor Jeb Bush himself availed himself of this law to have his and his wife's social security number redacted from the online record displayed in the image of a deed. But this redaction only applies to the online records as displayed by the county. It had no effect on the hundreds of copies that have been bought in bulk, aggregated, for display and sale over the Webb.

The solution seems very simple to me. Remote access can be allowed but it must be controlled within the jurisdiction. Is not possible to control digitized images displayed over the Internet or sold in bulk. Once they are released in bulk this way, they are gone forever. The county loses revenue, professionals lose the accurate and responsible source provided by the county, and their citizens lose their identity and security.

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Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
4/14/2005 2:25:14 PM (2400 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/14/2005 2:48:53 PM (2436 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - george Hubka/MI
4/14/2005 3:27:31 PM (2462 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/14/2005 5:53:29 PM (2340 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
4/14/2005 2:09:16 PM (2415 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/14/2005 4:34:18 PM (2460 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - george Hubka/MI
4/15/2005 8:26:35 AM (2292 views)

A technological solution - David Bloys/TX
4/9/2005 11:58:45 AM (2285 views)
Re: A technological solution - David Bloys/TX
4/9/2005 12:37:15 PM (2926 views)
Re: A technological solution - george Hubka/MI
4/9/2005 7:59:46 PM (2752 views)
Re: A technological solution - David Bloys/TX
4/9/2005 8:34:20 PM (2920 views)
Re: A technological solution - george Hubka/MI
4/9/2005 8:47:40 PM (2894 views)
Re: A technological solution - David Bloys/TX
4/9/2005 9:00:08 PM (2861 views)
Re: A technological solution - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
4/12/2005 9:51:07 PM (2812 views)
Re: A technological solution - David Bloys/TX
4/14/2005 9:55:10 AM (4466 views)
Re: A technological solution - Donna Grady/NC
4/14/2005 11:30:11 AM (2730 views)
Re: A technological solution - David Bloys/TX
4/14/2005 2:23:11 PM (2677 views)

Negative ratings to slow pay-no pay companies - christine hughes/MA
4/8/2005 7:07:42 PM (2521 views)
Re: Negative ratings to slow pay-no pay companies - Judy Nisonger/CA
4/8/2005 9:59:41 PM (2949 views)
Re: Negative ratings to slow pay-no pay companies - Michaela Urban/OH
4/8/2005 10:56:10 PM (3014 views)
Re: Negative ratings to slow pay-no pay companies - Barbara Bennett/IN
4/9/2005 9:24:48 AM (2922 views)
Re: Negative ratings to slow pay-no pay companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/9/2005 2:52:53 PM (2875 views)
Re: Negative ratings to slow pay-no pay companies - Anne Gilbert/VT
4/10/2005 9:58:03 AM (2876 views)
Re: Negative ratings to slow pay-no pay companies - george Hubka/MI
4/10/2005 9:54:15 PM (2916 views)
Re: Negative ratings to slow pay-no pay companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/11/2005 6:15:02 AM (2821 views)
Re: Negative ratings to slow pay-no pay companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/11/2005 8:01:17 AM (2787 views)
Re: Negative ratings to slow pay-no pay companies - george Hubka/MI
4/11/2005 8:30:59 AM (2911 views)
Re: Negative ratings to slow pay-no pay companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/11/2005 9:33:49 AM (2766 views)
Re: Negative ratings to slow pay-no pay companies - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/11/2005 3:10:35 PM (2840 views)
Re: Negative ratings to slow pay-no pay companies - Michaela Urban/OH
4/11/2005 4:29:26 PM (2853 views)
Re: Negative ratings to slow pay-no pay companies - george Hubka/MI
4/11/2005 6:25:11 PM (2660 views)
Re: Negative ratings to slow pay-no pay companies - Judy Nisonger/CA
4/11/2005 6:55:22 PM (2752 views)
Re: Negative ratings to slow pay-no pay companies - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/12/2005 8:01:25 AM (2792 views)


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not paying? - tb/NJ
4/8/2005 6:53:33 PM (2321 views)
Re: not paying? - Aimee Raines Raines/VA
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Doc Hunters(FLA) good or bad?? - Gary Crump/TX
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Re: Doc Hunters(FLA) good or bad?? - Deborah Manion/VA
4/8/2005 4:13:59 PM (3280 views)
Re: Doc Hunters(FLA) good or bad?? - Joseph Weaver/VA
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Re: Doc Hunters(FLA) good or bad?? - J DeLoach/TX
4/14/2005 10:24:19 PM (3105 views)
Re: Doc Hunters(FLA) good or bad?? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Doc Hunters(FLA) good or bad?? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Doc Hunters(FLA) good or bad?? - James "Lin" Toney/MS
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Re: Doc Hunters(FLA) good or bad?? - Melinda Barcum, J.D./AL
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Re: Doc Hunters(FLA) good or bad?? - Joseph Weaver/VA
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Re: Doc Hunters(FLA) good or bad?? - Patrick/NY
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Team Title - John Sauers/NY
4/8/2005 2:38:30 PM (1885 views)

No one answered my question... - Judy Nisonger/CA
4/7/2005 12:12:49 PM (2361 views)
Re: No one answered my question... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: No one answered my question... - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Re: No one answered my question... - Kim Haase/MT
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Re: No one answered my question... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: No one answered my question... - Judy Nisonger/CA
4/8/2005 12:34:08 AM (3041 views)
Re: No one answered my question... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: No one answered my question... - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Re: No one answered my question... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/7/2005 11:12:19 AM (2524 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Robert Franco/OH
4/7/2005 11:37:12 AM (2684 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - David Bloys/TX
4/7/2005 1:49:57 PM (2733 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Robert Franco/OH
4/7/2005 2:05:48 PM (2725 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - David Bloys/TX
4/7/2005 2:29:14 PM (2702 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Jay Duncan/MO
4/7/2005 12:17:41 PM (4128 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - David Bloys/TX
4/7/2005 1:28:57 PM (2722 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/7/2005 3:07:06 PM (2675 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Shannon Blatt/VA
4/7/2005 3:11:12 PM (2684 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
4/7/2005 3:19:18 PM (2563 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - David Bloys/TX
4/7/2005 4:11:34 PM (2653 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
4/7/2005 4:54:43 PM (2638 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - David Bloys/TX
4/7/2005 5:54:56 PM (2451 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
4/7/2005 1:30:28 PM (2645 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - george Hubka/MI
4/7/2005 1:34:47 PM (2590 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
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Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
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Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Deborah Manion/VA
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Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
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Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
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Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
4/7/2005 5:20:01 PM (2495 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Donna Grady/NC
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Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/8/2005 2:10:44 PM (2390 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - David Bloys/TX
4/9/2005 8:56:14 AM (2461 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/8/2005 2:23:28 PM (2479 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Donna Grady/NC
4/9/2005 1:26:56 AM (2399 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - David Bloys/TX
4/9/2005 8:06:16 AM (2369 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Donna Grady/NC
4/9/2005 3:30:56 PM (2287 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - Jodi Earls/MI
4/9/2005 6:29:12 PM (2296 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - David Bloys/TX
4/9/2005 7:05:16 PM (2291 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - David Bloys/TX
4/9/2005 7:51:41 PM (2247 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - george Hubka/MI
4/9/2005 8:30:51 PM (2096 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - David Bloys/TX
4/9/2005 9:21:56 PM (2162 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - george Hubka/MI
4/9/2005 8:19:12 PM (2029 views)
Re: Members of NALTEA/ALTA/SOT and Can Do Online Searches? - David Bloys/TX
4/9/2005 8:57:53 PM (2050 views)

Does anyone work with Lender Services Direct? - Kim Haase/MT
4/7/2005 10:46:21 AM (1842 views)

Info on KasparNet ? ? ? - george Hubka/MI
4/6/2005 10:34:15 PM (2027 views)

Scott Heinenman as Trustee - Douglas Johnson/MN
4/6/2005 9:03:53 PM (2200 views)
Re: Scott Heinenman as Trustee - Robert Franco/OH
4/7/2005 8:17:08 AM (2881 views)

Can't Companies Figure Out Online Searching - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/6/2005 12:16:39 PM (2306 views)
Re: Can't Companies Figure Out Online Searching - Dave Pell/FL
4/6/2005 12:18:57 PM (3097 views)
Re: Can't Companies Figure Out Online Searching - Doug Hollowell/TX
4/6/2005 4:42:28 PM (4673 views)
Re: Can't Companies Figure Out Online Searching - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Can't Companies Figure Out Online Searching - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/6/2005 5:09:48 PM (2871 views)
Re: Can't Companies Figure Out Online Searching - Cathy Iffergan/TX
4/6/2005 10:02:45 PM (2908 views)
Re: Can't Companies Figure Out Online Searching - J DeLoach/TX
4/14/2005 10:43:52 PM (2878 views)
Re: Can't Companies Figure Out Online Searching - David Bloys/TX
4/15/2005 8:08:53 AM (2952 views)
Re: Can't Companies Figure Out Online Searching - Judy Nisonger/CA
4/19/2005 11:47:30 AM (2860 views)
Re: Can't Companies Figure Out Online Searching - Jason Sheppard/PA
4/18/2005 5:22:31 PM (2967 views)
Re: Can't Companies Figure Out Online Searching - Shannon Blatt/VA
4/18/2005 7:24:07 PM (2900 views)

Change to message forum - Slade Smith/OH
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