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Countywide Abstract, Inc. - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
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notary blacklist? - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/19/2005 6:21:17 AM (4255 views)
Re: notary blacklist? - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
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Re: notary blacklist? - Judy Nisonger/CA
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Re: notary blacklist? - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: notary blacklist? - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/19/2005 11:23:43 AM (3169 views)
Re: notary blacklist? - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
4/19/2005 12:37:16 PM (2966 views)
Re: notary blacklist? - Shannon Blatt/VA
4/19/2005 1:12:23 PM (2943 views)

Creating Business - Mark Sizemore/IN
4/18/2005 11:58:33 AM (2132 views)
Re: Creating Business - Jay Duncan/MO
4/18/2005 2:56:53 PM (2839 views)
Re: Creating Business - george Hubka/MI
4/18/2005 5:43:24 PM (2696 views)
Re: Creating Business - Loretta Reed/MD
4/18/2005 7:01:48 PM (2661 views)
Re: Creating Business - Jay Duncan/MO
4/18/2005 8:23:48 PM (2678 views)
Re: Creating Business - Loretta Reed/MD
4/18/2005 8:31:23 PM (2757 views)

Conference forum - Shannon Blatt/VA
4/17/2005 11:30:38 PM (2160 views)
Re: Conference forum - Robert Franco/OH
4/18/2005 10:31:17 AM (2615 views)

NNBS/Anytime Services - Becky Cantrall/NC
4/14/2005 8:00:46 PM (2427 views)
Re: NNBS/Anytime Services - Matt Pardue/KY
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Anyone know about Stonewood Group? - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
4/14/2005 1:41:13 PM (2267 views)
Re: Anyone know about Stonewood Group? - Donna Grady/NC
4/14/2005 1:58:41 PM (2799 views)
Re: Anyone know about Stonewood Group? - george Hubka/MI
4/14/2005 3:15:20 PM (2771 views)
Re: Anyone know about Stonewood Group? - Becky Cantrall/NC
4/14/2005 7:55:23 PM (2690 views)
Re: Anyone know about Stonewood Group? - Rachel Crain/CA
4/21/2005 3:11:16 AM (2708 views)

Mortgage Verification - Sue/PA
4/13/2005 12:03:36 PM (2093 views)
Re: Mortgage Verification - george Hubka/MI
4/13/2005 1:20:12 PM (2788 views)
Re: Mortgage Verification - Tammy Harkay/OH
4/28/2005 9:48:48 PM (2593 views)
Re: Mortgage Verification - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/30/2005 12:13:50 AM (2618 views)

SECURED TITLE - PAM DESMARAIS/NC
4/13/2005 9:47:00 AM (2437 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/13/2005 10:34:03 AM (2511 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - george Hubka/MI
4/13/2005 1:25:00 PM (2420 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/13/2005 3:23:26 PM (2398 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Cathy Iffergan/TX
4/13/2005 10:16:54 PM (2385 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/14/2005 5:37:14 AM (2471 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Unida ukinclue/NC
4/14/2005 12:06:30 PM (2369 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Donna Grady/NC
4/14/2005 12:31:54 PM (2520 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - george Hubka/MI
4/14/2005 1:08:27 PM (2408 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Donna Grady/NC
4/14/2005 1:50:30 PM (2461 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Barbara Bennett/IN
4/14/2005 5:18:01 PM (2402 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - PAM DESMARAIS/NC
4/14/2005 11:37:40 PM (2323 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Unida ukinclue/NC
4/14/2005 7:29:28 PM (2467 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/14/2005 8:15:17 PM (2400 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Unida ukinclue/NC
4/14/2005 10:04:33 PM (2372 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/15/2005 6:54:15 AM (2492 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Unida ukinclue/NC
4/15/2005 8:18:35 PM (2368 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Robert Franco/OH
4/15/2005 8:50:55 PM (2293 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/16/2005 7:56:59 AM (2294 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: SECURED TITLE - george Hubka/MI
4/15/2005 8:09:52 AM (2329 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/15/2005 8:33:40 AM (2483 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - PAM DESMARAIS/NC
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Re: SECURED TITLE - Unida ukinclue/NC
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Re: SECURED TITLE - John PAxton/NC
4/15/2005 3:41:51 PM (2342 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - PAM DESMARAIS/NC
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Re: SECURED TITLE - george Hubka/MI
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Re: SECURED TITLE - Shannon Blatt/VA
4/14/2005 8:02:09 PM (2342 views)
Re: SECURED TITLE - Unida ukinclue/NC
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Re: SECURED TITLE - PAM DESMARAIS/NC
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Re: SECURED TITLE - David Bloys/TX
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Re: SECURED TITLE - george Hubka/MI
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Re: SECURED TITLE - David Bloys/TX
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Re: SECURED TITLE - Donna Grady/NC
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Re: SECURED TITLE - george Hubka/MI
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Re: SECURED TITLE - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: SECURED TITLE - Douglas Gallant/OH
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Re: SECURED TITLE - Unida ukinclue/NC
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Re: SECURED TITLE - Douglas Gallant/OH
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Re: SECURED TITLE...putting my 2 cents worth in - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: SECURED TITLE...putting my 2 cents worth in - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: SECURED TITLE...putting my 2 cents worth in - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: SECURED TITLE...putting my 2 cents worth in - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: SECURED TITLE...putting my 2 cents worth in - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: SECURED TITLE...putting my 2 cents worth in - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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more unlocked articles - Kim Haase/MT
4/12/2005 11:41:55 PM (2044 views)
Re: more unlocked articles - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: more unlocked articles - Kim Haase/MT
4/13/2005 10:35:35 AM (2296 views)
Re: more unlocked articles - Robert Franco/OH
4/13/2005 11:15:21 AM (2338 views)
Re: more unlocked articles - Kim Haase/MT
4/13/2005 11:51:21 AM (2290 views)
Re: more unlocked articles - Robert Franco/OH
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Help for someone who wants to become a title abstractor - John Flanders/GA
4/11/2005 11:52:58 PM (2135 views)
Re: Help for someone who wants to become a title abstractor - Loretta Reed/MD
4/12/2005 8:38:23 AM (2593 views)
Re: Help for someone who wants to become a title abstractor - george Hubka/MI
4/12/2005 1:55:36 PM (2511 views)
Re: Help for someone who wants to become a title abstractor - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/12/2005 4:54:15 PM (2539 views)
Re: Help for someone who wants to become a title abstractor - george Hubka/MI
4/12/2005 10:45:43 PM (2617 views)
Re: Help for someone who wants to become a title abstractor - Kim Haase/MT
4/12/2005 1:10:20 PM (2494 views)

Cancellation policy... - Loretta Reed/MD
4/11/2005 7:31:15 PM (2199 views)
Re: Cancellation policy... - george Hubka/MI
4/11/2005 7:36:16 PM (2540 views)
Re: Cancellation policy... - Jay Duncan/MO
4/11/2005 8:13:50 PM (2510 views)
Re: Cancellation policy... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
4/11/2005 11:21:59 PM (2422 views)
Re: Cancellation policy... - Shannon Blatt/VA
4/12/2005 1:46:12 AM (2443 views)
Re: Cancellation policy... - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/12/2005 8:36:10 AM (2395 views)
Re: Cancellation policy... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/12/2005 7:29:01 PM (2426 views)
Re: Cancellation policy... - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/12/2005 8:04:15 PM (2429 views)
Re: Cancellation policy... - george Hubka/MI
4/12/2005 10:51:36 PM (2430 views)
Re: Cancellation policy... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Cancellation policy... - Bernie O'Hare/PA
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Re: Cancellation policy... - Deborah Manion/VA
4/13/2005 8:53:08 AM (5886 views)
Re: Cancellation policy... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/13/2005 10:41:22 AM (2399 views)
Re: Cancellation policy... - george Hubka/MI
4/13/2005 1:33:02 PM (2316 views)

CNBC Special on Real Estate Boom - Robert Franco/OH
4/11/2005 5:04:14 PM (2135 views)
Re: CNBC Special on Real Estate Boom - Mark Russomanno/NJ
4/11/2005 5:25:03 PM (2323 views)
Re: CNBC Special on Real Estate Boom - Robert Breakell/CT
4/11/2005 6:05:14 PM (2442 views)
Re: CNBC Special on Real Estate Boom - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/12/2005 8:18:26 AM (2351 views)
Re: CNBC Special on Real Estate Boom - Robert Franco/OH
4/12/2005 10:40:01 AM (2350 views)
I asked this same question on another forum - Susie/OH
4/13/2005 9:19:51 PM (2359 views)

Realty Track - Cathy Iffergan/TX
4/10/2005 8:03:57 PM (1812 views)

Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Donna Grady/NC
4/9/2005 4:01:57 PM (2223 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/9/2005 6:03:25 PM (2202 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - george Hubka/MI
4/9/2005 7:55:10 PM (2176 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/9/2005 9:12:57 PM (2125 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Anne Gilbert/VT
4/10/2005 9:44:08 AM (2143 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/10/2005 1:22:40 PM (2156 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/11/2005 7:51:59 AM (2139 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - James Guill/VA
4/10/2005 5:16:05 PM (2137 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/10/2005 6:23:31 PM (2103 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Shannon Blatt/VA
4/10/2005 6:31:25 PM (2153 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - James Guill/VA
4/10/2005 6:54:30 PM (2136 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Shannon Blatt/VA
4/10/2005 11:39:16 PM (2071 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - george Hubka/MI
4/10/2005 9:46:47 PM (2140 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/10/2005 10:53:40 PM (2098 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
4/11/2005 4:30:01 PM (2120 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/11/2005 7:26:32 PM (3886 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
4/12/2005 5:30:04 PM (2037 views)
Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - David Bloys/TX
4/12/2005 8:59:58 PM (3779 views)

Ok, no one attacked you Jonathan, ad hominem or otherwise.
 
especially when you consider that you are going to comment on whether MY searches are accurate...
I don't think I commented on your searches. I have no knowledge of your searches. I did comment on the accuracy of online sources and quoted specifically from their disclaimers which state clearly they do not warrant them as accurate. I did not find any disclaimer on the four sites you said you used and stated as much. It was refreshing to find an online source that did not disclaim it's own accuracy. Maybe I just didn't look hard enough.

In every reference I made it was to the accuracy, completeness, and security of the sources, not the searcher. You acknowledge the four township sites in NYC are only have complete images back to 2003 and indexes to 1981. As to security, there is none that I saw.

Would it matter if all of the information were password protected and the only way to view it was through a security check run by Homeland Security? NO
You are correct. From a standpoint of security it would not matter. ChoicePoint was password protected and identity thieves gained their own passwords by posing as legitimate businesspeople whose identities they had previously stolen. George Mahon University was a password protected system. Last January hackers broke into their "secure" system and stole the identities of 30,000 students. George Mason is a public university located in Fairfax, Va . It is also It also is home to the Information Security Institute, the Lab for Information Security Technology and the Center for Secure Information Systems
, which has been designated a "Center of Academic Excellence" by the U.S. National Security Agency. So no, it would not matter from a security standpoint. If it is online, it is not secure.

I AM questioning the motives of people who are rebeling against online information. It is clear that they have little to no knowledge base as to what is available to searchers in certain municipalities via the Web, and their arguments against it prove this.
I have stated my motivations many times. They are often inaccurate and incomplete and their own disclaimers prove this. They are not secure identity thieves and the recent thefts of ChoicePoint, Hamilton Ohio and several sites in Florida illustrate this. Even the most secure password protected site is not secure from hackers and the case with George Mason University illustrates this. The citizens who They consented to their documents being viewed and copied where they filed them placed their records in the trust of the townships and counties. To my knowledge no citizen has ever consented to their private information being published over the World Wide Webb by the government or anyone else. I don't think they really care if it will save you an hour long commute.

And yes, I am also motivated by the fact that this is not good for the independent abstractors or for the employee abstractors. They are citizens too but even more than this, they are my peers. You say it would be stupid NOT to use the online services. Will it be equally stupid for your employer not to use your services when your employer learns the "same" source can be accessed over the internet by foreign outsource companies for pennies against your salary? Will your employer think it is stupid when foreign outsource companies take his clients? Or will he think it was a mistake to embrace an online policy that exposed the citizens, the communities and the industry to unneccessary risk?

only you drove your sorry ass to the buildings to do what I am doing from my office - so in the hour it took you to even get to the buildings,
I am not sure if that could be described as an ad hominem attack. What was it, some kind of ad assofmine attack? In any case, I dissagree with your online examination as to the condition of my backside. I will admit it was convenient and fast. It was extremely inexpensive. I expect it was worth what I paid for it. But if it's all the same to you Jonathan, I think I'll ask my local doctor for a second opinion.

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Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
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Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Donna Grady/NC
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Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Jonathan Figliuolo/NY
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Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Taking a Poll on Computerized Registries - george Hubka/MI
4/15/2005 8:26:35 AM (1856 views)

A technological solution - David Bloys/TX
4/9/2005 11:58:45 AM (2132 views)
Re: A technological solution - David Bloys/TX
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Re: A technological solution - george Hubka/MI
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Re: A technological solution - David Bloys/TX
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Re: A technological solution - george Hubka/MI
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Re: A technological solution - David Bloys/TX
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Re: A technological solution - David Bloys/TX
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Re: A technological solution - Donna Grady/NC
4/14/2005 11:30:11 AM (2148 views)
Re: A technological solution - David Bloys/TX
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