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NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
6/9/2005 11:55:14 PM (2199 views)

Recordings - Danielle Nelson/WI
6/9/2005 11:23:58 AM (2578 views)
Re: Recordings - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/9/2005 12:49:33 PM (3946 views)

MO. bill will shut down online images - David Bloys/TX
6/9/2005 8:19:36 AM (3593 views)

2005 Vendor Manager Report - David Bloys/TX
6/8/2005 1:55:30 PM (2775 views)
Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
6/8/2005 2:14:28 PM (4627 views)
Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - Deborah Manion/VA
6/8/2005 6:04:44 PM (4496 views)
Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/8/2005 7:18:21 PM (4655 views)

Okay I guess I'm first - here goes about the article.  I have to respond to the vendor managers, etc. just like I did to the abstractors - don't assume anything - always call with an inquiry rather than an accusation.  These are things that you need to know about us abstractors:

1)  Office Staff - with no price increases in 5 years, and in some instances, price reductions, the first to go with many abstracting businesses, including those with multiple employees, was the office staff.  Many are utilizing them to also do light duty work such as recordings, etc.  Office staff also have other outside duties like bank deposits and post office runs and package deliveries.  Most of us simply cannot place a full-time person in our office anymore.

2)  Cell Phones - I have repeatedly asked my clients if something was so important why didn't they call me on my cell with a response of "oh we don't have it as your main number."  To further respond, I have 1 rural county - Rockwall County, TX that does not allow cell phones to be turned on in the records building.  Collin County, TX has prisoner transfers inbetween the walls where the records are kept and there must be some kind of security involved that scrambles and disallows calls coming through while we are in the building - at least that is a thought that has crossed our minds because many of us have not either received the call at all in that county or it never rang and we walk out hours later seeing that there is a message.  There is one time that I purposely will not answer a cell call - when I am on a majorly dangerous highway.  I will call back when arrive at my next stop.  It is not to be rude or disrespectful to the company, it is to protect my own safety and well-being.  Too many accidents happen on the highways when people are on cell phones - and I actually don't hear some of them come in while in the car if I have the radio on and it is in my purse.

3)  Amount of Counties and Being Stretched Thin - We have had to take on more counties because vendor management companies are in-housing work and taking too much work from us.  This is different for different counties and states.  Sometimes it is not because we don't have the time to do the order - it's because we won't drive 1 hour each way for one $50.00 order or beter yet one $15.00 order, the more rural counties you go out.  That doesn't cover gas and time.  We have to hold them even though some of us will do them with just one order if the volume from this particular client in other counties warrants this kind of service.

4)  Honesty - This amused me along with some of the responses.  Again, this is where I say a presumption has been made before the facts concluded.  And I first said this to the abstractors who said companies purposely aren't paying.  Maybe looking at the whole picture of what we deal with on a daily basis may put the word "honesty" back into your pocket.  Let's say I have 5 title searches in 2 counties.  One would assume that I could finish those within a day.  Now let's throw in what us abstractors' deal with on a daily basis.  Every day that I go to Dallas county there is at least 1 accident both coming and going to the courthouse.  Many of these accidents shut down the highway and my normal drive time of 40 minutes has now increased to 2 hours, if I am lucky.  Let's see then I go in the building and find out the computers have been down for an hour and they don't know when they will be back up.  Luckily they go up in an half hour but now the copy line is backed up and they are telling us we cannot even get our copies till the next day.  Now the next county I go to has decided to shut the county doors for 3 hours for a party for one of their employees, please come back after 3:00 it says.  Now is this an every day occurrence - add this in one county one day and another county the next and there is a lot of our plans of honesty to produce down the drain.  We have counties that open and close at different times for meetings and lunch and all have different holidays.  Counties that used to be open till 5:00 in the last year or so are closing at 4:30 and closing during lunch hours.  As far as finding out too late that a search isn't going to be complete - well we find out too late we can't get into the courthouse or the copies or down the highway.  These instances happen so often that if I called my client every time, I wouldn't be able to do any work, I would be on the phone all the time.

As far as billing 2x, I have done that accidentally before - never on purpose - all my invoices display the work order # and my invoice number and fully describe the work done - is easily caught as a second invoice for the same work.  I can't remember why it happened - just know that I was having trouble with my accounting program and my computer.  As far as getting to the courthouse and raising prices, sometimes you have to, some searches are a mess - but my client is called and I don't continue nor charge the new charge without a call back that it has been approved.

In honesty the other way, I have made agreements based on certain criteria and have come to find out many times the company has been majorly dishonest thinking I will never find out.  Many of us abstractors have approached companies asking about other abstractors doing work and being lied to.  Many post have said - the company just needs to be honest what is the big deal.

5)   Flexibility in Pricing - We are at rock bottom pricing to begin - at the same or under the prices of 5 years ago.  We have no profit margin to give in to anymore cost reductions.  Our insurance, both car and E&0 have increased tremendously, parking fees, gasoline and supplies.  That is why we call when we have an aweful search.  I cannot search an order that will take me 3 hours, not counting drive time, for $50.00.  Let's get to the point of being in "reality" first. 

6) More Abstractors then in Past - I don't believe we have more abstractors.  There is just less work from each individual company which has led abstractors to market their services to more companies leading the companies to believe there are more abstractors.  There are not - I have 3 friends that have gone out of business in the last year with others to follow shortly I have heard.  So I don't know what is going to happen to all those orders that cannot be done in-house.  The orders being done properly in-house was never an issue with me - it can't be done - at least in my state.

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Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - David Bloys/TX
6/8/2005 9:23:53 PM (4379 views)
Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/10/2005 10:58:05 AM (4064 views)
Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/16/2005 7:46:39 AM (4151 views)
Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - David Bloys/TX
6/8/2005 7:57:33 PM (4600 views)
Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - Deborah Manion/VA
6/9/2005 9:03:55 AM (4634 views)
Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/9/2005 10:40:28 AM (4348 views)
Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - Deborah Manion/VA
6/9/2005 11:00:05 AM (4271 views)
Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - David Bloys/TX
6/9/2005 11:13:22 AM (4265 views)
Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - Deborah Manion/VA
6/9/2005 11:34:19 AM (4387 views)
Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - David Bloys/TX
6/9/2005 12:12:41 PM (4167 views)
Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - Patrick Scott/IL
6/9/2005 12:08:26 PM (4389 views)
Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - Kim Haase/MT
6/9/2005 12:35:16 PM (4358 views)
Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - Judy Nisonger/CA
6/9/2005 1:16:27 PM (4362 views)
Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - David Bloys/TX
6/9/2005 1:34:11 PM (4143 views)
Re: 2005 Vendor Manager Report - Robert Franco/OH
6/9/2005 11:59:13 PM (4120 views)

New article on VMC - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/8/2005 1:52:57 PM (2715 views)
Re: New article on VMC - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
6/8/2005 2:06:48 PM (4267 views)




commercial search fee - Julie Jasiunas/WI
6/7/2005 1:23:23 PM (2711 views)
Re: commercial search fee - Jay Duncan/MO
6/7/2005 1:40:17 PM (4346 views)
Re: commercial search fee - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/7/2005 2:02:17 PM (4392 views)
Re: commercial search fee - Smitty Strickland/SC
6/7/2005 4:58:35 PM (4370 views)
Re: commercial search fee - Robert Franco/OH
6/7/2005 5:19:25 PM (4733 views)
Re: commercial search fee - Julie Jasiunas/WI
6/8/2005 9:31:20 AM (4469 views)
Re: commercial search fee - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/8/2005 12:54:17 PM (4699 views)
Re: commercial search fee - george Hubka/MI
6/10/2005 11:09:18 PM (4181 views)
Re: commercial search fee - Smitty Strickland/SC
6/8/2005 7:03:12 PM (4215 views)
Re: commercial search fee - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/8/2005 7:20:02 PM (4740 views)
Re: commercial search fee - Michaela Urban/OH
6/9/2005 11:44:47 AM (4201 views)
Re: commercial search fee - Rachel Malone/PA
6/9/2005 4:28:41 PM (4098 views)
Re: commercial search fee - Julie Jasiunas/WI
6/9/2005 10:51:20 PM (4344 views)
Re: commercial search fee - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/9/2005 11:44:22 PM (6297 views)
Re: commercial search fee - george Hubka/MI
6/10/2005 11:14:04 PM (4137 views)
Re: commercial search fee - Rachel Malone/PA
6/13/2005 7:35:18 AM (4059 views)

WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - Scott Perry/PA
6/6/2005 9:53:46 PM (2770 views)
Re: WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - Jay Duncan/MO
6/6/2005 9:59:22 PM (4039 views)
Re: WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - Scott Perry/PA
6/6/2005 10:04:54 PM (4025 views)
Re: WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - Jay Duncan/MO
6/6/2005 11:42:18 PM (4091 views)
Re: WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/7/2005 12:58:34 AM (4089 views)
Re: WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/7/2005 5:29:00 AM (3923 views)
Re: WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - David Bloys/TX
6/7/2005 8:57:50 AM (3894 views)
Re: WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - Deborah Manion/VA
6/7/2005 10:22:51 AM (3798 views)
Re: WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - Robert Franco/OH
6/7/2005 10:45:15 AM (3934 views)
Re: WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - Jay Duncan/MO
6/7/2005 11:46:07 AM (3949 views)
Re: WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - Deborah Manion/VA
6/7/2005 11:50:20 AM (4067 views)
Re: WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - Jay Duncan/MO
6/7/2005 1:38:05 PM (4222 views)
Re: WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/7/2005 12:14:24 PM (4201 views)
Re: WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/7/2005 2:09:21 PM (4072 views)
Re: WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - Robert Franco/OH
6/7/2005 3:43:25 PM (3960 views)
Re: WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/7/2005 3:50:28 PM (4053 views)
Re: WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - Robert Franco/OH
6/7/2005 3:55:54 PM (3924 views)
Re: WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF... - Michaela Urban/OH
6/9/2005 11:49:47 AM (4053 views)

Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/6/2005 1:09:35 PM (2686 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/6/2005 1:43:17 PM (3837 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/6/2005 2:00:23 PM (3813 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/6/2005 2:22:57 PM (4024 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/6/2005 3:34:07 PM (3762 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Robert Franco/OH
6/6/2005 2:51:29 PM (3949 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Kim Haase/MT
6/7/2005 11:34:30 AM (3956 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/7/2005 12:34:46 PM (4150 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Kim Haase/MT
6/7/2005 1:31:11 PM (3977 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/7/2005 6:36:04 PM (3973 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Robert Franco/OH
6/7/2005 1:28:18 PM (4056 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Kim Haase/MT
6/7/2005 1:34:26 PM (4162 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Robert Franco/OH
6/6/2005 5:01:38 PM (3900 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/6/2005 8:08:51 PM (3844 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Jay Duncan/MO
6/6/2005 8:53:35 PM (3790 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
6/6/2005 9:21:17 PM (3825 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/7/2005 5:16:42 AM (3750 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - David Bloys/TX
6/7/2005 8:41:15 AM (3661 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Jay Duncan/MO
6/7/2005 8:56:17 AM (3695 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - David Bloys/TX
6/7/2005 9:33:19 AM (3852 views)
Re: Unreasonable Client Expectations? - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/7/2005 10:59:41 AM (3669 views)

Revisiting E&O and LLC formation - Susie/OH
6/4/2005 9:34:09 PM (2702 views)
Re: Revisiting E&O and LLC formation - Jay Duncan/MO
6/4/2005 11:04:00 PM (3712 views)
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Help for your slow computer; spyware and viruses. - Alan Voorheis/WA
6/4/2005 7:41:11 PM (3810 views)
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Re: Help for your slow computer; spyware and viruses. - Alan Voorheis
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6/7/2005 12:15:34 PM (4086 views)
Re: Help for your slow computer; spyware and viruses. - Alan Voorheis
6/7/2005 7:16:40 PM (3925 views)

Abstractor program - Alan Voorheis/WA
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Last Chance!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
6/4/2005 5:26:26 PM (3328 views)

E&O - Donna McKamy/MT
6/3/2005 6:54:35 PM (2758 views)
Re: E&O - Jay Duncan/MO
6/3/2005 9:10:23 PM (3934 views)
Re: E&O - Loretta Reed/MD
6/3/2005 9:25:17 PM (4018 views)
Re: E&O - Michaela Urban/OH
6/5/2005 12:48:06 PM (3746 views)
Re: E&O - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/5/2005 1:44:22 PM (3844 views)

Average Salary - Cathy/TX
6/2/2005 3:36:51 PM (2921 views)
Re: Average Salary - Deborah Manion/VA
6/2/2005 4:33:58 PM (4077 views)
Re: Average FL Salary - Kurt deVries/FL
6/3/2005 2:53:59 PM (4116 views)
Re: Average Salary - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/3/2005 4:33:38 PM (4064 views)

NON PAYING CLIENT - michelle foskey/GA
6/2/2005 12:48:59 PM (2861 views)
Re: NON PAYING CLIENT - Helene G/GA
6/2/2005 11:40:25 PM (3996 views)
Re: NON PAYING CLIENT - Douglas Gallant/OH
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Re: NON PAYING CLIENT - michelle foskey/GA
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Re: NON PAYING CLIENT - Helene/GA
6/7/2005 10:26:58 PM (4213 views)
Re: NON PAYING CLIENT - Shannon Blatt/VA
6/7/2005 11:36:15 PM (4332 views)


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