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6/14 - 6/15 Cleveland, Ohio National Settlement Services Summit - Jason Sheppard/PA
6/1/2005 12:03:01 AM (2507 views)
Re: 6/14 - 6/15 Cleveland, Ohio National Settlement Services Summit - Jason Sheppard/PA
6/13/2005 5:48:02 PM (3261 views)
Re: 6/14 - 6/15 Cleveland, Ohio National Settlement Services Summit - Robert Franco/OH
6/13/2005 5:52:16 PM (3200 views)
Re: 6/14 - 6/15 Cleveland, Ohio National Settlement Services Summit - Jason Sheppard/PA
6/13/2005 6:02:59 PM (3177 views)

Hot Topic - Maiden Name - Title Searches - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/31/2005 11:42:41 AM (2752 views)
Re: Hot Topic - Maiden Name - Title Searches - Robert Franco/OH
5/31/2005 1:45:06 PM (3305 views)
Re: Hot Topic - Maiden Name - Title Searches - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Hot Topic - Maiden Name - Title Searches - Kim Haase/MT
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Re: Hot Topic - Maiden Name - Title Searches - Donna Grady/NC
6/1/2005 7:50:07 AM (3154 views)
Re: Hot Topic - Maiden Name - Title Searches - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Hot Topic - Maiden Name - Title Searches - george Hubka/MI
6/5/2005 11:45:29 PM (2931 views)

Get Certified!!! - Natl Assoc of Land Title Examiners and Abstractors/MO
5/31/2005 11:20:26 AM (3946 views)
Re: Get Certified!!! - Douglas Gallant/OH
5/31/2005 7:42:49 PM (3258 views)
Re: Get Certified!!! - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/31/2005 7:49:35 PM (3200 views)

re:informal poll - Kim Haase/MT
5/29/2005 11:21:26 AM (1923 views)

IF YOU LOVE YOUR FREEDOM, THANK A "GRUNT" - Scott Perry/PA
5/28/2005 11:33:12 AM (2382 views)
Re: IF YOU LOVE YOUR FREEDOM, THANK A "GRUNT" - Jay Duncan/MO
5/28/2005 7:39:07 PM (3063 views)


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Remember this Memorial Day - Kurt deVries/FL
5/27/2005 4:07:09 PM (2015 views)
Re: Remember this Memorial Day - Francine Miller/NY
5/27/2005 4:19:31 PM (3139 views)
Re: Remember this Memorial Day - Adrienne Arsenault/NH
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Re: Remember this Memorial Day - Kim Haase/MT
5/29/2005 11:26:43 AM (2995 views)

Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Jason Sheppard/PA
5/27/2005 1:20:33 PM (2202 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/27/2005 2:30:48 PM (3252 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Robert Franco/OH
5/27/2005 2:51:26 PM (3359 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Adrienne Arsenault/NH
5/27/2005 9:38:52 PM (3281 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/27/2005 11:20:25 PM (3270 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/28/2005 10:43:18 AM (3136 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Jason Sheppard/PA
5/28/2005 9:12:21 PM (3152 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Patrick Scott/IL
5/28/2005 10:19:51 PM (3255 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/29/2005 9:02:16 AM (3200 views)

Connecticut is located in the federal Second Circuit, and as such is governed by the rulings of the U S Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. The most recent case I have seen within this circuit that deals with RESPA and mark ups is Kruse V. Wells Fargo Home Mortgage, Inc., (No. 03-7665, 2nd Circuit, Sept. 10, 2004). It was a the subject of an excellent article on the ALTA web site dated September 14, 2004. I invite all interested parties to read it. It seems to address many of the concerns voiced here, and breaks the "legal jargon" down into English.

There appears to be a split of authority as to whether RESPA Section 8(b) applies to mark ups by settlement services for their own services. The Second Circuit seems to take the view that it does not. The Eleventh Circuit in the case of Sosa V. Chase Manhattan Corp., 348 F3rd. 979 (11 th Circuit 2003) appears to take a similar position. The courts of the Fourth, Seventh and Eighth Circuits appear to take an opposing view. There is a lack of uniformity in the interpretation and application of RESPA which makes the various appellate court rulings a prime target for review by the U S Supreme Court in order to gain uniformity throughout the Circuits. I have also been told that RESPA is undergoing reform which may deal with the problem before the courts do.

It would appear that whether RESPA Section 8(b) prohibits settlement service mark ups depends on the circuit in which these settlement companies are located and the definition of "their own services." Do their services involve a finder's fee for their efforts to link the borrower to an abstractor or signing agent for which they are entitled to payment in addition to the abstractor's or signing agent's fees? Good question. Who knows at this point? It needs further interpretation by the court or clarification in a redraft of Section 8(b). Part of the problem appears to be with the definition of "unreasonable overcharges". The Second Circuit has taken the position that the language of RESPA in vague in this respect.

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Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/29/2005 10:37:13 PM (3198 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/30/2005 5:58:41 AM (3082 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/30/2005 12:25:31 PM (3085 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Scott Perry/PA
5/30/2005 9:32:44 AM (3090 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/30/2005 1:54:46 PM (3042 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/30/2005 5:03:09 PM (2997 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/30/2005 6:21:13 PM (3122 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Jason Sheppard/PA
5/31/2005 4:49:02 PM (3360 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/31/2005 7:46:49 PM (3230 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Patrick Scott/IL
5/31/2005 10:13:06 PM (3312 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/31/2005 11:23:55 PM (3056 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Jason Sheppard/PA
5/31/2005 11:42:51 PM (3060 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Patrick Scott/IL
6/1/2005 10:05:56 AM (3133 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Jason Sheppard/PA
5/29/2005 11:30:43 AM (3291 views)

Frontier Counties - David Bloys/TX
5/27/2005 11:22:17 AM (2735 views)

Informal poll - Kim Haase/MT
5/27/2005 1:14:32 AM (2188 views)
Re: Informal poll - Loretta Reed/MD
5/27/2005 8:08:43 AM (3340 views)
Re: Informal poll - Kim Haase/MT
5/27/2005 9:41:31 AM (3288 views)
Re: Informal poll - Loretta Reed/MD
5/27/2005 11:26:01 AM (3250 views)
Re: Informal poll - Kim Haase/MT
5/27/2005 12:38:11 PM (3280 views)
Re: Informal poll - Robert Franco/OH
5/27/2005 10:28:13 AM (3376 views)
Re: Informal poll - Kim Haase/MT
5/27/2005 12:31:28 PM (3329 views)
Re: Informal poll - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/27/2005 2:52:14 PM (3332 views)
Re: Informal poll - Kurt deVries/FL
5/27/2005 4:05:31 PM (3266 views)
Re: Informal poll - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/27/2005 4:17:53 PM (3322 views)
Re: Informal poll - Robb Grandon/OH
6/1/2005 8:49:17 AM (3087 views)
Re: Informal poll - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/27/2005 4:42:36 PM (3275 views)
Re: Informal poll - Michaela Urban/OH
5/27/2005 9:17:32 PM (3296 views)
Re: Informal poll - Jacqueline Costa/RI
5/27/2005 9:41:31 PM (3280 views)
Re: Informal poll - Christy Rathbun/CT
5/27/2005 10:09:20 PM (3211 views)
Re: Informal poll - Donna Grady/NC
5/27/2005 11:30:24 PM (3236 views)
Re: Informal poll - Jay Duncan/MO
5/28/2005 12:00:54 AM (2987 views)
Re: Informal poll - Glenda Hodge/TN
5/28/2005 3:25:58 AM (3000 views)
Re: Informal poll - Scott Perry/PA
5/28/2005 11:55:42 AM (3086 views)
Re: Informal poll - Helene/GA
5/29/2005 11:45:56 PM (3020 views)
Re: Informal poll - Judy Nisonger/CA
5/31/2005 10:58:00 AM (2948 views)
Re: Informal poll - Anne Gilbert/VT
5/30/2005 8:28:40 AM (3024 views)

Assignments without recorded Deeds of Trust - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/26/2005 10:28:57 PM (2106 views)
Re: Assignments without recorded Deeds of Trust - Patrick Scott/IL
5/27/2005 9:48:10 AM (3303 views)
Re: Assignments without recorded Deeds of Trust - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/27/2005 4:39:37 PM (3122 views)
Re: Assignments without recorded Deeds of Trust - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/27/2005 12:09:53 PM (3117 views)
Re: Assignments without recorded Deeds of Trust - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/27/2005 4:41:27 PM (3133 views)
Re: Assignments without recorded Deeds of Trust - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/27/2005 4:55:13 PM (3057 views)
Re: Assignments without recorded Deeds of Trust - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/30/2005 2:48:08 PM (2947 views)
Re: Assignments without recorded Deeds of Trust - Jay Duncan/MO
5/28/2005 12:04:25 AM (2956 views)
Re: Assignments without recorded Deeds of Trust - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/30/2005 2:46:28 PM (2945 views)
Re: Assignments without recorded Deeds of Trust - Jay Duncan/MO
5/31/2005 11:06:39 AM (3001 views)
Re: Assignments without recorded Deeds of Trust - Anne Gilbert/VT
5/30/2005 8:34:28 AM (2891 views)

Urban Settlement Services LLC - christine hughes/MA
5/26/2005 5:00:06 PM (2452 views)
Re: Urban Settlement Services LLC - Julie Jasiunas/WI
5/27/2005 9:52:07 AM (3135 views)
Re: Urban Settlement Services LLC - Deborah Manion/VA
5/27/2005 11:07:45 AM (3106 views)
Re: Urban Settlement Services LLC - David Nixon/MA
5/27/2005 3:27:15 PM (3060 views)
Re: Urban Settlement Services LLC - christine hughes/MA
5/27/2005 7:03:33 PM (3218 views)

Texas abstractors-please help - Michael Frank/TX
5/26/2005 2:20:43 PM (1711 views)

Am I the only one left? - David Bloys/TX
5/26/2005 12:30:09 PM (2103 views)
Re: Am I the only one left? - MJ/VA
5/26/2005 12:57:07 PM (3096 views)
Re: Am I the only one left? - David Bloys/TX
5/26/2005 1:02:27 PM (3090 views)
Re: Am I the only one left? - Brad McCollom/IN
5/26/2005 1:22:54 PM (3139 views)
Re: Am I the only one left? - Deborah Manion/VA
5/26/2005 4:10:42 PM (3107 views)
Re: Am I the only one left? - Mark Russomanno/NJ
5/26/2005 6:14:38 PM (3104 views)
Re: Am I the only one left? - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/26/2005 6:52:26 PM (3176 views)
Re: Am I the only one left? - george Hubka/MI
5/29/2005 8:51:53 PM (2706 views)
Re: Am I the only one left? - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/30/2005 6:10:21 AM (2559 views)
Re: Am I the only one left? - Jay Duncan/MO
5/27/2005 10:08:57 AM (3030 views)
Re: Am I the only one left? - monica froese/ME
5/26/2005 6:47:49 PM (3074 views)
Re: Am I the only one left? - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/26/2005 7:06:36 PM (3082 views)
Re: Am I the only one left? - Adrienne Arsenault/NH
5/26/2005 10:10:38 PM (3110 views)

Now You Can!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
5/24/2005 9:12:35 PM (2938 views)

Son's Surgery - For Those Who Wanted Me to Keep Them Informed - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/23/2005 8:11:11 PM (2133 views)
Re: Son's Surgery - For Those Who Wanted Me to Keep Them Informed - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
5/23/2005 8:31:57 PM (3073 views)
Re: Son's Surgery - For Those Who Wanted Me to Keep Them Informed - Jay Duncan/MO
5/23/2005 10:28:11 PM (3083 views)
Re: Son's Surgery - For Those Who Wanted Me to Keep Them Informed - David Bloys/TX
5/23/2005 9:10:25 PM (3068 views)
Re: Son's Surgery - For Those Who Wanted Me to Keep Them Informed - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
5/24/2005 9:26:04 AM (2940 views)
Re: Son's Surgery - For Those Who Wanted Me to Keep Them Informed - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/24/2005 10:40:40 AM (2960 views)
Re: Son's Surgery - For Those Who Wanted Me to Keep Them Informed - monica froese/ME
5/25/2005 4:01:06 PM (2942 views)


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