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More Security Issues - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/9/2005 10:47:23 AM (2622 views)
Re: More Security Issues - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/9/2005 10:52:18 AM (3508 views)
Re: More Security Issues - Julie Jasiunas/WI
7/9/2005 10:56:57 AM (3400 views)
Re: More Security Issues - Julie Jasiunas/WI
7/9/2005 11:08:55 AM (5664 views)
Re: More Security Issues - Scott Perry/PA
7/9/2005 11:51:02 AM (3292 views)
Re: More Security Issues - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/9/2005 7:17:57 PM (3220 views)
Re: More Security Issues - george Hubka/MI
7/9/2005 8:36:47 PM (3323 views)
Re: More Security Issues - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/9/2005 11:00:28 PM (3279 views)
Re: More Security Issues - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/9/2005 8:56:48 PM (3342 views)
Re: More Security Issues - george Hubka/MI
7/9/2005 9:00:21 PM (3156 views)

E&O insurance continued... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/9/2005 10:18:53 AM (2546 views)
Re: E&O insurance continued... - Julie Jasiunas/WI
7/9/2005 10:46:50 AM (3429 views)
Re: E&O insurance continued... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/9/2005 11:26:57 AM (3393 views)
Re: E&O insurance continued... - Julie Jasiunas/WI
7/9/2005 12:19:54 PM (3376 views)
Re: E&O insurance continued... - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/9/2005 7:19:40 PM (3560 views)
Re: E&O insurance continued... - george Hubka/MI
7/9/2005 8:41:35 PM (3510 views)
Re: E&O insurance continued... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/9/2005 10:58:14 PM (3306 views)
Re: E&O insurance continued... - george Hubka/MI
7/10/2005 11:29:10 PM (3322 views)
Re: E&O insurance continued... - Marsha Fox/AL
7/11/2005 8:20:50 AM (3695 views)
Re: E&O insurance continued... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/12/2005 8:32:28 AM (3365 views)
Re: E&O insurance continued... - Donna Grady/NC
7/16/2005 10:56:00 PM (3301 views)

Former employees disclosures - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
7/9/2005 2:30:28 AM (2762 views)
Re: Former employees disclosures - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/9/2005 6:58:08 AM (3366 views)
Re: Former employees disclosures - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
7/9/2005 12:46:36 PM (3534 views)
Re: Former employees disclosures - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/9/2005 4:18:22 PM (3501 views)
Re: Former employees disclosures - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/9/2005 11:34:09 AM (3540 views)
Re: Former employees disclosures - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
7/9/2005 12:43:23 PM (3529 views)
Re: Former employees disclosures - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/16/2005 4:43:54 PM (3441 views)
Re: Former employees disclosures - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/17/2005 1:38:54 PM (3492 views)
Re: Former employees disclosures - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
7/17/2005 11:04:32 PM (3288 views)
Re: Former employees disclosures - Robert Franco/OH
7/9/2005 1:13:29 PM (3521 views)
Re: Former employees disclosures - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/9/2005 7:28:02 PM (3580 views)
Re: Former employees disclosures - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/9/2005 8:52:53 PM (3475 views)
Re: Former employee disclosures - Galavantin Avatar/CA
7/15/2005 2:10:03 PM (3469 views)

Public Note of Thanks - Helene Gonzalez/GA
7/8/2005 10:23:42 PM (3503 views)
Re: Public Note of Thanks - Robert Franco/OH
7/9/2005 11:13:50 AM (3246 views)
Re: Public Note of Thanks - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/9/2005 11:17:24 AM (3290 views)
Re: Public Note of Thanks - Helene/GA
7/13/2005 11:39:49 PM (3337 views)

abstracting in LA - Michael Frank/TX
7/8/2005 10:13:51 AM (2489 views)
Re: abstracting in LA - Michael Frank/TX
7/8/2005 4:26:00 PM (3267 views)




So, You Want To Out-Source Overseas??? - Jay Duncan/MO
7/7/2005 12:49:46 PM (3594 views)
Re: So, You Want To Out-Source Overseas??? - Jay Duncan/MO
7/7/2005 4:11:52 PM (5374 views)
Re: So, You Want To Out-Source Overseas??? - David Bloys/TX
7/10/2005 10:48:55 PM (6292 views)

Nationwide Title Clearing - Danielle Nelson/WI
7/7/2005 10:27:44 AM (2719 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Never Again!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
7/7/2005 12:47:25 PM (3904 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Never Again!!! - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
7/7/2005 4:02:56 PM (3659 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Never Again!!! - george Hubka/MI
7/7/2005 11:06:30 PM (3496 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Never Again!!! - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
7/8/2005 8:18:14 AM (3486 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Never Again!!! - Bannon Lucas/FL
7/15/2005 11:30:07 AM (3527 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Never Again!!! - Robert Franco/OH
7/15/2005 12:41:55 PM (3497 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Never Again!!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/16/2005 2:31:48 PM (3323 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Never Again!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
7/16/2005 11:02:26 PM (3371 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Never Again!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
7/19/2005 10:45:01 AM (3358 views)
Re: Nationwide Title Clearing - Never Again!!! - Bannon Lucas/FL
7/20/2005 4:35:33 PM (3574 views)

Abstractor Software... - Robert Franco/OH
7/6/2005 5:03:56 PM (2049 views)

Texas Courthouses - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/2/2005 1:06:43 PM (2086 views)

Women in business resource - J Nisonger/CA
7/1/2005 11:55:16 AM (3079 views)

Searcher Liability Question - Larry Crooks/OH
6/29/2005 4:02:29 PM (2648 views)
Re: Searcher Liability Question - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/29/2005 5:03:27 PM (3456 views)
Re: Searcher Liability Question - Robert Franco/OH
6/29/2005 7:17:46 PM (3674 views)

I don't think there is any doubt that the abstractor is liable for the full amount.  In a Pennsylvania lawsuit an abstractor was held liable for a $176,000 loss for missing a judgment lien. (see Searcher Owes Insurer for Missed Judgment) That searcher even used a disclaimer on his search attempting to limit the liability to $25.

The real issue is - why aren't the abstractors compensated for the liability?  If I do a search and the client issues a $50,000 loan policy, I don't have nearly as much liability as I do if they issue a $500,000 owner's policy.  However, assuming I did a full search for both - I am not compensated any more for the additional liability.

On the other hand, the insurer is charging the consumer a lot more for the $500,000 owner's policy.  The agent is paid very well for the increased liability and they are still able to pass most of that liability off to the searcher.

I think that before a company decides to ask the abstractor for a penny they should think about the ethics involved.  If they aren't sharing the profits, they shouldn't be expecting to offload the liability. But that is just my opinion.

There is a big difference between what's legal and what's ethical.  Unfortunately, even if a company chooses not to seek damages from the abstractor, their E&O company may if they pay the claim.

Bottom line, there is a lot of liability in this business and the fees do not justify it.  It is just something we all have to deal with.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Searcher Liability Question - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/29/2005 11:39:52 PM (3740 views)
Re: Searcher Liability Question - Larry Crooks/OH
6/30/2005 6:49:16 AM (3561 views)
Re: Searcher Liability Question - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/30/2005 8:41:48 AM (3807 views)
Re: Searcher Liability Question - Robert Franco/OH
6/30/2005 10:05:58 AM (3702 views)
Re: Searcher Liability Question - Larry Crooks/OH
6/30/2005 12:37:48 PM (3537 views)
Re: Searcher Liability Question - Regina Engebritson Engebritson/MN
8/10/2005 8:33:33 PM (3437 views)

reporting tax status on searches - christine/MA
6/29/2005 9:02:48 AM (2634 views)
Re: reporting tax status on searches - ANDREW MOLLER/CT
6/29/2005 10:45:43 AM (3492 views)
Re: reporting tax status on searches - Steve Schneider/IN
6/29/2005 12:48:32 PM (3470 views)
Re: reporting tax status on searches - Danielle Nelson/WI
6/29/2005 12:58:02 PM (3412 views)
Re: reporting tax status on searches - Scott Perry/PA
6/29/2005 5:45:48 PM (3414 views)
Re: reporting tax status on searches - Kim Haase/MT
6/30/2005 1:26:31 AM (3715 views)

In Response to Robert's Thread of 6/24 - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
6/27/2005 9:16:08 AM (3233 views)

Mr Davis and his claims - James "Lin" Toney/MS
6/26/2005 11:23:26 PM (2671 views)
Re: Mr Davis and his claims - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
6/27/2005 9:20:06 AM (3546 views)
Re: Mr Davis and his claims - Deborah Manion/VA
6/27/2005 9:39:35 AM (3492 views)
Re: Mr Davis and his claims - James "Lin" Toney/MS
6/27/2005 5:18:18 PM (3359 views)
Re: Mr Davis and his claims - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
6/27/2005 8:37:06 PM (3447 views)
Re: Mr Davis and his claims - David Chisolm/MS
6/30/2005 5:12:56 PM (3506 views)
Re: Mr Davis and his claims - James "Lin" Toney/MS
6/30/2005 6:21:49 PM (3532 views)
Re: Mr Davis and his claims - James "Lin" Toney/MS
7/2/2005 12:17:02 AM (3544 views)

QUESTION FOR TECHIES - Scott Perry/PA
6/26/2005 10:21:53 PM (2509 views)
Re: QUESTION FOR TECHIES - Robert Franco/OH
6/27/2005 12:54:39 AM (3490 views)
Re: QUESTION FOR TECHIES - Christy Rathbun/CT
6/27/2005 2:00:24 AM (3550 views)
Re: QUESTION FOR TECHIES - Scott Perry/PA
6/30/2005 7:14:47 PM (3901 views)
Re: QUESTION FOR TECHIES - Cherie Smurthwaite/CA
6/30/2005 10:01:20 PM (3772 views)
Re: QUESTION FOR TECHIES - J Nisonger/CA
7/1/2005 1:11:29 PM (3858 views)
Re: QUESTION FOR TECHIES - Robert Franco/OH
7/1/2005 3:33:03 PM (3671 views)
Re: QUESTION FOR TECHIES - Scott Perry/PA
7/2/2005 12:21:20 PM (3728 views)


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