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BOGUS NEGATIVE REVIEWS - VIVIAN SLYKER/OH
7/25/2005 3:28:54 PM (2788 views)
Re: BOGUS NEGATIVE REVIEWS - Robert Franco/OH
7/25/2005 4:10:53 PM (3512 views)
Re: BOGUS NEGATIVE REVIEWS - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/25/2005 6:36:29 PM (3530 views)

Can you believe this?? - Michaela Urban/OH
7/25/2005 11:09:56 AM (2819 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Matthew DeLand/NY
7/25/2005 4:52:52 PM (3608 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/25/2005 6:34:00 PM (3572 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Robert Franco/OH
7/25/2005 6:38:48 PM (3671 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2005 7:00:00 PM (3575 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Deborah Manion/VA
7/26/2005 9:44:54 AM (3493 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Michaela Urban/OH
7/27/2005 8:05:01 AM (3577 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
7/29/2005 4:21:34 PM (3619 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Scott Perry/PA
8/1/2005 6:04:47 PM (3520 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Michaela Urban/OH
8/1/2005 7:41:23 PM (3509 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Michaela Urban/OH
8/1/2005 7:41:49 PM (3472 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Wanda Steudel/OH
8/1/2005 7:59:49 PM (3540 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Michaela Urban/OH
8/1/2005 8:03:40 PM (3400 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/3/2005 1:45:54 PM (3521 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Michaela Urban/OH
8/3/2005 10:58:55 PM (3601 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Victoria Moate/NJ
8/9/2005 2:14:22 AM (3536 views)

Shamrock Title, LLC - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/23/2005 6:45:29 PM (2856 views)
Re: Shamrock Title, LLC - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/24/2005 6:52:38 AM (3556 views)
Re: Shamrock Title, LLC - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/25/2005 6:32:18 PM (3396 views)

Is Anyone Interested In? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/22/2005 5:15:21 PM (2754 views)
Re: Is Anyone Interested In? - Anne Gilbert/VT
7/24/2005 8:01:28 AM (3471 views)
Re: Is Anyone Interested In? - Barbara Bennett/IN
7/25/2005 4:18:22 PM (3351 views)

TITLESEARCH USA - Marilyn Parker/IL
7/21/2005 12:23:11 PM (2873 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/21/2005 12:45:37 PM (3931 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Barbara Bennett/IN
7/21/2005 7:05:00 PM (3841 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Tammy Knight/MO
7/21/2005 7:30:37 PM (3718 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Marilyn Parker/IL
7/22/2005 12:22:59 PM (3710 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Matthew DeLand/NY
7/22/2005 2:30:07 PM (3772 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Christy Rathbun/CT
7/22/2005 11:36:01 PM (3733 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - margaret sedy/CA
7/23/2005 7:33:29 PM (3872 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Danielle Nelson/WI
7/25/2005 1:36:55 PM (4549 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2005 2:03:30 PM (3649 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA....email update - Danielle Nelson/WI
7/25/2005 2:17:03 PM (3787 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA....email update - Victoria Moate/NJ
8/9/2005 2:29:49 AM (3603 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Ellen Maher/MI
12/12/2005 7:04:34 PM (3478 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Julie Jasiunas/WI
12/12/2005 8:30:37 PM (3547 views)




...ummm...dont be offended... - Ellen Malloy/MO
7/19/2005 3:34:59 PM (2806 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Robert Franco/OH
7/19/2005 4:19:14 PM (3385 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/19/2005 5:29:17 PM (3378 views)

Ellen,

I am not sure that I understand the question. If you are asking if an attorney's affidavit is curative in all instances, I would have to say no. I have seen attorney's affidavits on the land records which provide additional information to make it easier for the abstractor to follow. I ran into one of these recently in the New London land records. Someone back in the l920's included the wrong legal description in the deed. For the next 70 years no one picked up on the mistake. In the mid l990's some attorney caught the mistake, and put an affidavit on the land records to explain what had happened, and that the surviving heirs of the title holder executed deeds with both the correct legal description and incorrect legal description. The affidavit is not curative. It is only explanatory. It is the operation of law and the conduct of the title holder's in the chain that determine whether there is a basis for an exclusion vis a vis the passage of time. There are instances in which a title holder's affidavit may be curative (i.e. release of an old mortgage by affidavit when the mortgagee can not be found). However, this is by operation of statute. As to whether the passage of time creates an exclusion, this also is determined by law (i.e. statute of limitations on collection of tax liens).

If I were performing the search I would note all pertinent information in the abstract in order for the closing attorney and title insurer to reach an informed decision as to whether the passage of time has given rise to an exclusion. I would think that they would need to have this information in order to make this determination. If I am acting in the capacity of an abstractor I merely report the information as completely and correctly as possible. I do not fix the defects in title.

If I am acting in the capacity of a closing attorney, I would want to know if the title insurance carrier is willing to insure over the matter. If not, I think I would be looking for a release of the encumbrance or some other remedy at law acceptable to the title insurer sufficient to make them comfortable with insuring it.

If I were representing the buyer, I think I would recommend that they pass on the deal if marketable title could not be produced by the seller. If I were representing the seller, I would recommend that they have a word with their title insurer if title were not marketable.

I have seen some real estate transactions grow into nightmare litigation in which the buyer is suing for the refund of his deposit, and the seller is countersuing for specific performance of the sales contract. The issue being whether the defect in title is such that it renders the title unmarketable. At this point, it is the ruling of the court not the opinion of the attorney that
determines whether the title is marketable. Opinons of attorneys are not law. They are explanations or interpretations of the law. The court and the legislature are the parties entrusted with making law.

In so far as the low esteem in which attorneys are held, that appears to be nothing new. There is a great line from one of Shakespeare's plays. I forget which one. It may be "Richard the Third"..."The first thing we do is kill all the lawyers." So it appears the the low opinion dates back centuries. It is an undeserved reputation. The attorneys I work with are honorable and represent their clients to the best of their abilities.

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Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Ellen Malloy/MO
7/19/2005 5:56:39 PM (3503 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Scott Perry/PA
7/19/2005 11:13:11 PM (3404 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Deborah Manion/VA
7/20/2005 11:09:13 AM (3437 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Patrick Scott/IL
7/20/2005 11:48:53 AM (3451 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Robert Franco/OH
7/20/2005 3:13:39 PM (3516 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/20/2005 3:45:27 PM (3449 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/20/2005 4:45:58 PM (3461 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
7/20/2005 7:28:37 PM (3382 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Patrick Scott/IL
7/20/2005 10:13:09 PM (3404 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Ellen Malloy/MO
7/21/2005 11:21:07 AM (3371 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Scott Perry/PA
7/21/2005 3:37:47 PM (3456 views)

a better way to email doc? - Donna Grady/NC
7/17/2005 12:18:26 AM (2656 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Robert Franco/OH
7/17/2005 12:59:29 AM (3612 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/17/2005 12:45:53 PM (3480 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/17/2005 1:22:43 PM (3291 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - David Bloys/TX
7/17/2005 4:27:14 PM (3419 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/17/2005 9:57:29 PM (3364 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - David Bloys/TX
7/17/2005 2:56:13 PM (3390 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/17/2005 3:31:10 PM (3442 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/17/2005 4:01:26 PM (3348 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Matthew DeLand/NY
7/18/2005 9:40:15 AM (3374 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Donna Grady/NC
7/18/2005 11:47:23 PM (4914 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/19/2005 10:47:56 AM (3312 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/21/2005 10:57:53 AM (3472 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
7/29/2005 3:51:07 PM (3341 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
7/29/2005 7:14:45 PM (3205 views)

NALTEA Certification - Jodi Earls/MI
7/15/2005 1:40:32 PM (2611 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/15/2005 2:43:54 PM (3290 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Franco/OH
7/15/2005 3:15:06 PM (3308 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Jodi Earls/MI
7/15/2005 3:17:14 PM (3324 views)

An instant messaging idea.. - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
7/15/2005 2:11:08 AM (2573 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Robert Franco/OH
7/15/2005 9:06:41 AM (3488 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Ellen Malloy/MO
7/15/2005 9:33:22 AM (3462 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Patrick Scott/IL
7/15/2005 10:45:42 AM (3439 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Robert Franco/OH
7/15/2005 11:24:14 AM (3424 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Galavantin Avatar/CA
7/15/2005 2:20:13 PM (3379 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Mike/PA
7/15/2005 2:53:29 PM (5349 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/16/2005 2:11:47 PM (3509 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Michael Frank/TX
7/18/2005 3:41:36 PM (3301 views)

Marc Davis Strikes Again! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/13/2005 4:16:31 PM (2983 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - Jonathan Figliuolo/NJ
7/13/2005 5:15:36 PM (3654 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/13/2005 6:40:37 PM (3605 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - Robert Franco/OH
7/13/2005 5:20:31 PM (3591 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/13/2005 6:36:27 PM (3615 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/13/2005 7:11:07 PM (3561 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/13/2005 7:27:24 PM (3489 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - Alan Hirsch/NY
7/23/2005 11:31:37 AM (3532 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/25/2005 12:44:40 AM (3506 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/25/2005 10:08:44 AM (3424 views)

National Title Department Promotion - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/12/2005 9:02:02 PM (2720 views)
Re: National Title Department Promotion - Patrick Scott/IL
7/13/2005 11:17:14 AM (3333 views)
Re: National Title Department Promotion - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/13/2005 3:38:34 PM (3365 views)

Frustrated Abstractors Should Speak Out - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
7/12/2005 4:40:01 PM (2132 views)

Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Michaela Urban/OH
7/12/2005 1:27:07 PM (2606 views)
Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Michaela Urban/OH
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Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Matthew DeLand/NY
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Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Rachel Malone/PA/PA
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Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Steve Schneider/IN
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Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Patrick Scott/IL
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Has Anyone had experience with these two companies? - Matt Papsch/MD
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Re: Has Anyone had experience with these two companies? - Scott Perry/PA
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E & O - Wendi See/SC
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Re: E & O - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: E & O - Steve Schneider/IN
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