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BOGUS NEGATIVE REVIEWS - VIVIAN SLYKER/OH
7/25/2005 3:28:54 PM (2795 views)
Re: BOGUS NEGATIVE REVIEWS - Robert Franco/OH
7/25/2005 4:10:53 PM (3520 views)
Re: BOGUS NEGATIVE REVIEWS - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/25/2005 6:36:29 PM (3532 views)

Can you believe this?? - Michaela Urban/OH
7/25/2005 11:09:56 AM (2825 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Matthew DeLand/NY
7/25/2005 4:52:52 PM (3617 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/25/2005 6:34:00 PM (3580 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Robert Franco/OH
7/25/2005 6:38:48 PM (3687 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2005 7:00:00 PM (3586 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Deborah Manion/VA
7/26/2005 9:44:54 AM (3513 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Michaela Urban/OH
7/27/2005 8:05:01 AM (3583 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
7/29/2005 4:21:34 PM (3627 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Scott Perry/PA
8/1/2005 6:04:47 PM (3537 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Michaela Urban/OH
8/1/2005 7:41:23 PM (3517 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Michaela Urban/OH
8/1/2005 7:41:49 PM (3480 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Wanda Steudel/OH
8/1/2005 7:59:49 PM (3552 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Michaela Urban/OH
8/1/2005 8:03:40 PM (3408 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/3/2005 1:45:54 PM (3531 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Michaela Urban/OH
8/3/2005 10:58:55 PM (3609 views)
Re: Can you believe this?? - Victoria Moate/NJ
8/9/2005 2:14:22 AM (3544 views)

Shamrock Title, LLC - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/23/2005 6:45:29 PM (2859 views)
Re: Shamrock Title, LLC - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/24/2005 6:52:38 AM (3580 views)
Re: Shamrock Title, LLC - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/25/2005 6:32:18 PM (3427 views)

Is Anyone Interested In? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/22/2005 5:15:21 PM (2756 views)
Re: Is Anyone Interested In? - Anne Gilbert/VT
7/24/2005 8:01:28 AM (3477 views)
Re: Is Anyone Interested In? - Barbara Bennett/IN
7/25/2005 4:18:22 PM (3359 views)

TITLESEARCH USA - Marilyn Parker/IL
7/21/2005 12:23:11 PM (2877 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/21/2005 12:45:37 PM (3944 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Barbara Bennett/IN
7/21/2005 7:05:00 PM (3847 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Tammy Knight/MO
7/21/2005 7:30:37 PM (3723 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Marilyn Parker/IL
7/22/2005 12:22:59 PM (3713 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Matthew DeLand/NY
7/22/2005 2:30:07 PM (3781 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Christy Rathbun/CT
7/22/2005 11:36:01 PM (3736 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - margaret sedy/CA
7/23/2005 7:33:29 PM (3882 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Danielle Nelson/WI
7/25/2005 1:36:55 PM (4552 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2005 2:03:30 PM (3652 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA....email update - Danielle Nelson/WI
7/25/2005 2:17:03 PM (3792 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA....email update - Victoria Moate/NJ
8/9/2005 2:29:49 AM (3606 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Ellen Maher/MI
12/12/2005 7:04:34 PM (3480 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Julie Jasiunas/WI
12/12/2005 8:30:37 PM (3548 views)




...ummm...dont be offended... - Ellen Malloy/MO
7/19/2005 3:34:59 PM (2806 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Robert Franco/OH
7/19/2005 4:19:14 PM (3394 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/19/2005 5:29:17 PM (3383 views)

Ellen,

I am not sure that I understand the question. If you are asking if an attorney's affidavit is curative in all instances, I would have to say no. I have seen attorney's affidavits on the land records which provide additional information to make it easier for the abstractor to follow. I ran into one of these recently in the New London land records. Someone back in the l920's included the wrong legal description in the deed. For the next 70 years no one picked up on the mistake. In the mid l990's some attorney caught the mistake, and put an affidavit on the land records to explain what had happened, and that the surviving heirs of the title holder executed deeds with both the correct legal description and incorrect legal description. The affidavit is not curative. It is only explanatory. It is the operation of law and the conduct of the title holder's in the chain that determine whether there is a basis for an exclusion vis a vis the passage of time. There are instances in which a title holder's affidavit may be curative (i.e. release of an old mortgage by affidavit when the mortgagee can not be found). However, this is by operation of statute. As to whether the passage of time creates an exclusion, this also is determined by law (i.e. statute of limitations on collection of tax liens).

If I were performing the search I would note all pertinent information in the abstract in order for the closing attorney and title insurer to reach an informed decision as to whether the passage of time has given rise to an exclusion. I would think that they would need to have this information in order to make this determination. If I am acting in the capacity of an abstractor I merely report the information as completely and correctly as possible. I do not fix the defects in title.

If I am acting in the capacity of a closing attorney, I would want to know if the title insurance carrier is willing to insure over the matter. If not, I think I would be looking for a release of the encumbrance or some other remedy at law acceptable to the title insurer sufficient to make them comfortable with insuring it.

If I were representing the buyer, I think I would recommend that they pass on the deal if marketable title could not be produced by the seller. If I were representing the seller, I would recommend that they have a word with their title insurer if title were not marketable.

I have seen some real estate transactions grow into nightmare litigation in which the buyer is suing for the refund of his deposit, and the seller is countersuing for specific performance of the sales contract. The issue being whether the defect in title is such that it renders the title unmarketable. At this point, it is the ruling of the court not the opinion of the attorney that
determines whether the title is marketable. Opinons of attorneys are not law. They are explanations or interpretations of the law. The court and the legislature are the parties entrusted with making law.

In so far as the low esteem in which attorneys are held, that appears to be nothing new. There is a great line from one of Shakespeare's plays. I forget which one. It may be "Richard the Third"..."The first thing we do is kill all the lawyers." So it appears the the low opinion dates back centuries. It is an undeserved reputation. The attorneys I work with are honorable and represent their clients to the best of their abilities.

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Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Ellen Malloy/MO
7/19/2005 5:56:39 PM (3507 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Scott Perry/PA
7/19/2005 11:13:11 PM (3417 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Deborah Manion/VA
7/20/2005 11:09:13 AM (3445 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Patrick Scott/IL
7/20/2005 11:48:53 AM (3456 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Robert Franco/OH
7/20/2005 3:13:39 PM (3518 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/20/2005 3:45:27 PM (3452 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/20/2005 4:45:58 PM (3464 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
7/20/2005 7:28:37 PM (3384 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Patrick Scott/IL
7/20/2005 10:13:09 PM (3414 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Ellen Malloy/MO
7/21/2005 11:21:07 AM (3375 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Scott Perry/PA
7/21/2005 3:37:47 PM (3460 views)

a better way to email doc? - Donna Grady/NC
7/17/2005 12:18:26 AM (2656 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Robert Franco/OH
7/17/2005 12:59:29 AM (3617 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/17/2005 12:45:53 PM (3486 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/17/2005 1:22:43 PM (3297 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - David Bloys/TX
7/17/2005 4:27:14 PM (3432 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/17/2005 9:57:29 PM (3368 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - David Bloys/TX
7/17/2005 2:56:13 PM (3399 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/17/2005 3:31:10 PM (3451 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/17/2005 4:01:26 PM (3353 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Matthew DeLand/NY
7/18/2005 9:40:15 AM (3377 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Donna Grady/NC
7/18/2005 11:47:23 PM (4917 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/19/2005 10:47:56 AM (3315 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/21/2005 10:57:53 AM (3480 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
7/29/2005 3:51:07 PM (3342 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
7/29/2005 7:14:45 PM (3206 views)

NALTEA Certification - Jodi Earls/MI
7/15/2005 1:40:32 PM (2611 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/15/2005 2:43:54 PM (3293 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Franco/OH
7/15/2005 3:15:06 PM (3314 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Jodi Earls/MI
7/15/2005 3:17:14 PM (3325 views)

An instant messaging idea.. - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
7/15/2005 2:11:08 AM (2574 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Robert Franco/OH
7/15/2005 9:06:41 AM (3493 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Ellen Malloy/MO
7/15/2005 9:33:22 AM (3464 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Patrick Scott/IL
7/15/2005 10:45:42 AM (3443 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Robert Franco/OH
7/15/2005 11:24:14 AM (3426 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Galavantin Avatar/CA
7/15/2005 2:20:13 PM (3387 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Mike/PA
7/15/2005 2:53:29 PM (5351 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/16/2005 2:11:47 PM (3516 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Michael Frank/TX
7/18/2005 3:41:36 PM (3304 views)

Marc Davis Strikes Again! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/13/2005 4:16:31 PM (2983 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - Jonathan Figliuolo/NJ
7/13/2005 5:15:36 PM (3662 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/13/2005 6:40:37 PM (3607 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - Robert Franco/OH
7/13/2005 5:20:31 PM (3594 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/13/2005 6:36:27 PM (3619 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/13/2005 7:11:07 PM (3562 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/13/2005 7:27:24 PM (3497 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - Alan Hirsch/NY
7/23/2005 11:31:37 AM (3534 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/25/2005 12:44:40 AM (3508 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/25/2005 10:08:44 AM (3431 views)

National Title Department Promotion - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/12/2005 9:02:02 PM (2721 views)
Re: National Title Department Promotion - Patrick Scott/IL
7/13/2005 11:17:14 AM (3336 views)
Re: National Title Department Promotion - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/13/2005 3:38:34 PM (3367 views)

Frustrated Abstractors Should Speak Out - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
7/12/2005 4:40:01 PM (2132 views)

Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Michaela Urban/OH
7/12/2005 1:27:07 PM (2607 views)
Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Matthew DeLand/NY
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Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Steve Schneider/IN
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Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Patrick Scott/IL
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Has Anyone had experience with these two companies? - Matt Papsch/MD
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Re: Has Anyone had experience with these two companies? - Scott Perry/PA
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E & O - Wendi See/SC
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Re: E & O - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: E & O - Steve Schneider/IN
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