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[+] Kim's informal poll - Deborah Manion/VA (5 replies)
6/2/2005 11:02:12 AM (2519 views)

[+] Broaching a Delicate Subject` - Scott Perry/PA (13 replies)
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[+] Conference Weekend Almost Here - Shannon Blatt/VA (3 replies)
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[+] NON-PAYING CLIENT - Docutech Information Services, Inc. - Columbus, Ohio - Robb Grandon/OH (4 replies)
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[+] 6/14 - 6/15 Cleveland, Ohio National Settlement Services Summit - Jason Sheppard/PA (3 replies)
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[+] Hot Topic - Maiden Name - Title Searches - Lisa Ramsey/TX (6 replies)
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[+] Get Certified!!! - Natl Assoc of Land Title Examiners and Abstractors/MO (2 replies)
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re:informal poll - Kim Haase/MT
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[+] IF YOU LOVE YOUR FREEDOM, THANK A "GRUNT" - Scott Perry/PA (1 reply)
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[-] Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Jason Sheppard/PA (22 replies)
5/27/2005 1:20:33 PM (2236 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/27/2005 2:30:48 PM (3402 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Robert Franco/OH
5/27/2005 2:51:26 PM (3496 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Adrienne Arsenault/NH
5/27/2005 9:38:52 PM (3417 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/27/2005 11:20:25 PM (3412 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/28/2005 10:43:18 AM (3276 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Jason Sheppard/PA
5/28/2005 9:12:21 PM (3263 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Patrick Scott/IL
5/28/2005 10:19:51 PM (3393 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/29/2005 9:02:16 AM (3334 views)

Connecticut is located in the federal Second Circuit, and as such is governed by the rulings of the U S Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. The most recent case I have seen within this circuit that deals with RESPA and mark ups is Kruse V. Wells Fargo Home Mortgage, Inc., (No. 03-7665, 2nd Circuit, Sept. 10, 2004). It was a the subject of an excellent article on the ALTA web site dated September 14, 2004. I invite all interested parties to read it. It seems to address many of the concerns voiced here, and breaks the "legal jargon" down into English.

There appears to be a split of authority as to whether RESPA Section 8(b) applies to mark ups by settlement services for their own services. The Second Circuit seems to take the view that it does not. The Eleventh Circuit in the case of Sosa V. Chase Manhattan Corp., 348 F3rd. 979 (11 th Circuit 2003) appears to take a similar position. The courts of the Fourth, Seventh and Eighth Circuits appear to take an opposing view. There is a lack of uniformity in the interpretation and application of RESPA which makes the various appellate court rulings a prime target for review by the U S Supreme Court in order to gain uniformity throughout the Circuits. I have also been told that RESPA is undergoing reform which may deal with the problem before the courts do.

It would appear that whether RESPA Section 8(b) prohibits settlement service mark ups depends on the circuit in which these settlement companies are located and the definition of "their own services." Do their services involve a finder's fee for their efforts to link the borrower to an abstractor or signing agent for which they are entitled to payment in addition to the abstractor's or signing agent's fees? Good question. Who knows at this point? It needs further interpretation by the court or clarification in a redraft of Section 8(b). Part of the problem appears to be with the definition of "unreasonable overcharges". The Second Circuit has taken the position that the language of RESPA in vague in this respect.

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Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/29/2005 10:37:13 PM (3307 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/30/2005 5:58:41 AM (3222 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/30/2005 12:25:31 PM (3231 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Scott Perry/PA
5/30/2005 9:32:44 AM (3213 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/30/2005 1:54:46 PM (3157 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/30/2005 5:03:09 PM (3137 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/30/2005 6:21:13 PM (3257 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Jason Sheppard/PA
5/31/2005 4:49:02 PM (3492 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/31/2005 7:46:49 PM (3376 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Patrick Scott/IL
5/31/2005 10:13:06 PM (3460 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
5/31/2005 11:23:55 PM (3197 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Jason Sheppard/PA
5/31/2005 11:42:51 PM (3188 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Patrick Scott/IL
6/1/2005 10:05:56 AM (3268 views)
Re: Asking for Your Opinion on Title Companies Charging "Service" Fees - Jason Sheppard/PA
5/29/2005 11:30:43 AM (3434 views)

Frontier Counties - David Bloys/TX
5/27/2005 11:22:17 AM (2765 views)

[+] Informal poll - Kim Haase/MT (21 replies)
5/27/2005 1:14:32 AM (2236 views)

[+] Assignments without recorded Deeds of Trust - Ellen Malloy/MO (10 replies)
5/26/2005 10:28:57 PM (2172 views)

[+] Urban Settlement Services LLC - christine hughes/MA (4 replies)
5/26/2005 5:00:06 PM (2483 views)


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